Obameron ‘Omong Kosong’ Exposed by Indonesian ‘Tolerance’ Survey
Please note, the Indonesian phrase ‘omong kosong’ is usually translated as ‘bull-s–t!’
Very interesting item in CNS on Friday, the Obama Adminstration’s deletion of the State Department’s annual report on religous liberty around the world.
CNSNews.com – …for the first time ever, the State Department simply eliminated the section of religious freedom in its reports covering 2011 and instead referred the public to the 2010 report – a full two years behind the times – or to the annual report of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom USCIRF which was released last September and covers events in 2010 but not 2011.
As we’ve noted here on RRA before now, Obama, and the UK’s Cameron, like to strut the world stage wielding their big stick of economic aid to intimidate Third World countries that don’t share their decadent pro-’gay’ agenda.
But when it comes to persecuted Christians or other minorities like Ahmadiyah, they are happy to turn a blind eye, even grovelling to those under whose authority the persecution is carried out, as was the case with both of them during their respective visits to Indonesia. The Manchurian and his Cast-Iron catamite delivered nauseatingly sycophantic speeches about ‘pluralism and tolerance,’ which they must know is far from the reality here.
Here’s Cameron the Clown in Hyper-Grovel mode, April 12th Jakarta Globe – Indonesia’s respect for democracy and minority religious groups should serve as an example for other Muslim nations, British Prime Minister David Cameron said in a speech to be delivered on Thursday….
“What Indonesia is showing is that it is possible to develop a democracy and a modern economy that neither compromises people’s security nor their ability to practise their religion,” Cameron will say, according to an advance text of his speech.
Obama of course is infamously Islamist in inclination, witness his ‘Justice’ Department’s interference on behalf of that disgraceful woman who took her employers to court for refusing to let her go tripping off to Mecca.
His distortion of the true scene here was expressed thus - even as this land of my youth has changed in so many ways, those things that I learned to love about Indonesia — that spirit of tolerance that is written into your Constitution; symbolized in mosques and churches and temples standing alongside each other; that spirit that’s embodied in your people — that still lives on. (White House blog)
Yes, Indonesia was more tolerant then, I expect, just as it was more tolerant when I arrived a dozen or more years ago, but times have changed.
It came as something of a kick in the guts to read the results of that survey in the Jakarta Post.
I try to take care to describe the rabid element here not as “Muslim” but as Islamist, drawing the distinction between my nice neighbours who say their prayers and fast and never bother me (and the millions like them all over Indonesia) and the genuinely evil jihadist gangs, like the FPI, GARIS, FUI, MMI, and their ‘non-violent’ godfathers in the MUI.
But if this new survey is even remotely accurate, the nation is collapsing into the worst sort of shariah freak fanaticism, and with the acquiescence of a majority of its people.
The survey, conducted by the Jakarta-based think tank Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) between Jan. 16 and 24 this year, found that although 83.4 percent of the respondents said that they had no problem with neighbors from different ethnic groups, 79.3 percent objected to inter-religious marriage… 68.2 percent of respondents refused to allow people of different faiths to build places of worship in their neighborhood…. 91.5 percent said that people from different faiths must get approval from the local community before they could build a place of worship. The survey’s sample represents the plurality of the country’s population.
I leave readers to make of those statistics what they will, and note that less than 2500 people in a country of 200 million plus were interviewed. But this next figure really vexes me.
Close to 80 percent of respondents also thought that all restaurants and eateries should shut down during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan.
That is surely the piece de resistance in terms of brain-dead bigoted intolerance. EVERY eatery should be forcibly shut down for THIRTY DAYS because SOME people don’t eat?
What a gang of grimnasties! There are in Jakarta, around a million, or more, non-Muslims who do not feel any obligation to fast. Why should their rights be trampled on?
Of course an MUI spokesman, in the next day’s JP, exulted in this display of sectarian arrogance. Indonesian Ulema Council Deputy chairman Ma’ruf Amin delivered this tortuous definition of tolerance!
“Tolerance means that we are able to live side by side and peacefully with people from different faiths….Ma’ruf said he agreed with the 80 percent of the respondents to the CSIS survey who said all restaurants should close during the day during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadhan, calling it an example of tolerance.
“That’s a sign of respect for Muslim people during Ramadhan. If the restaurant owners wish to have their places open, they must put up a screen to conceal them.”
Respect, sir, needs to be earned, not ordered by the MUI or their cat’s-paws in the city government of Jakarta or anywhere else. What a dour dog-in-the-manger mentality that says I’m not going to eat so why should anyone else?
Some cretins clearly don’t even understand what ‘fasting’ means. it is not something you do because there’s no food available. Were that the case, there’d be no spiritual discipline involved whatsoever.
The whole essence of a fast is that you can eat but choose not to, for religious or other reasons.
If your allegiance to your creed is so wafer thin that you can’t walk past an open resto without breaking your holy fast, you might as well convert to some other religion, because you’re not worth having in the one you’ve got.
It makes a mockery of Islamic values if you close eateries, because you’re saying you and/or your co-religionists can’t hack it, even though it’s hardly a real fast anyway, a good guzzle pre-dawn then all too often scenes of wanton gluttony as the sun goes down at 6pm.
Okay, if that’s what they choose to call self-denial, up to them, but don’t deny the rest of us our breakfast, brunch, lunch or mid-arvo snack. If you do, you
A have no self-control and/or
B enjoy making life tiresome for people of other faiths.
I like eating out, going to bars, listening to live music with pretty dancers shimmying across a stage.
My enjoyment thereof does not extend to lurking in the night-club doorways and press-ganging the passing devout on their way to pray, in order to force them into culinary or other carnal delights. It’s not my business nor my inclination to stop them doing as they please, nor is it their business ( though it’s patently their inclination ) to stop me having fun.
People like Ma’aruf should grow up and grasp what tolerance is!
Anyhow, you can read the whole article yourselves. http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/06/07/indonesia-may-not-have-silent-majority.html The point being the Government here is presiding over a moral collapse into shariah, and what was astounding was the reaction of the only Government ministerial figure quoted.
Contacted separately, Deputy Religious Affairs Minister Nasaruddin Umar acknowledged that there was indeed a trend towards religious intolerance, but he regretted the fact that CSIS released its findings, given that it could cause more trouble in the community. “This will awaken the sleeping tiger,” he told The Jakarta Post. Nasaruddin said that the world could get the wrong impression that the country’s majority Muslim population is responsible for the rise in intolerance.
- No? Really? God forbid any data could be so maliciously misconstrued! And this guy is one of the more ‘moderate’ members of the regime here! So he’d suppress the survey, and also, in the interests of ‘tolerance,’ suppress books too!
Against this trend, Nasaruddin said that the ministry would step up its campaign to curb intolerance. “For instance we will keep an a close eye on books used in the [educational] curriculum. We will not tolerate any books that provoke religious conflicts,” he said.
That is a very ambiguous statement.
If, for example, the FPI Secretary General, Lubis, wrote a book enlarging on his famous theme that members of the Ahmadiyah minority should be murdered, then yes, a ban might make sense. But a lot of mediaeval morons here think that, for example, literature lampooning or criticising their creed is cause for rampage. That poor atheist in Sumatra, Alex Aan, is still, apparently, being prosecuted simply for stating his disbelief in God. And we all know the idiocies and infamies induced all over the world by a simple cartoon.
So exactly what would Nasaruddin ban?
Whatever, my own dismay is shared by many Indonesians, including the Muslim Yenny Wahid, whose father, President Gus Dur, was an exemplar of tolerance.
“Some surveys show that, in fact, there’s no ‘silent majority’ that supports pluralism. The majority of Indonesian people probably still practice religious intolerance,” Wahid Institute director Zannuba “Yenny” Wahid said on Wednesday.
Which brings us back to Obama and Cameron and their nonsense statements during their visits here.
Clearly both men are kept fully informed of what goes on. Both their embassies in Jakarta have staff specifically employed to provide detailed information on Indonesia’s social, religious and political developments. So they were simply lying in their teeth, either to win favour for their trade delegations or because they seek to ingratiate themselves with the Islamists who are increasingly calling the shots.
The latter explanation is suggested by the State Department’s self-censorship. By skipping that section on religious rights, they skip the persecution of the Copts in Egypt and the Cikeusik Pogrom here in Indonesia. And many another true horror story!
Leonard Leo, who recently completed a term as chairman of the USCIRF, says that removing the sections on religious freedom from the State Department’s Country Reports on Human Rights is a bad idea. Since 1998, when Congress created USCIRF, the State Department has been required to issue a separate yearly report specifically on International Religious Freedom.
But a section reporting on religious freedom has also always been included in the State Department’s legally required annual country-by-country reports on human rights – that is, until now.
And this is the first year the State Department would have needed to report on the effect the Arab Spring has had on religious freedom in the Middle East–had its reports, as always before, included a section on religious freedom.
“The commission that I served on has some real concerns about that bifurcation, because the human rights reports receive a lot of attention, and to have pulled religious freedom out of it means that fewer people will obtain information about what’s going on with that particular freedom or right. So you don’t have the whole picture because they split it up now,” Leo told CNSNews.com.
Former U.S. diplomat Thomas Farr says it’s possible that the move to totally separate religious freedom from the human rights reports could simply be a bureaucratic maneuver.
But another possibility is much more likely.
“The other possibility is the Obama administration is downplaying international religious freedom,” Farr said.
Obama, and Cameron, certainly ‘dowplayed’ it when they came to Jakarta. They showed they don’t give a tinker’s cuss.