An Affront to NZ, a Disgrace to Canada – Vile Vixen Spits on Soldier’s Grave
Barbara Sumner Burstyn.
This monstrosity is apparently Canadian-born. ## (see correction below – never heard of her till this weekend, so am receiving new info minute by minute)
She moved to New Zealand some time ago, and has made a good living there, working as a ‘film-maker.’ Sumner Burstyn is a regular columnist for the New Zealand Herald and has been given NZ tax dollars for her films.
She repaid NZ by metaphorically spitting on the grave of a young woman soldier who died in Afghanistan.
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Jacinda Baker.
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- Barbara Sumner Burstyn’s vile words –
“”Oh, so fallen soldier Jacinda Baker liked boxing and baking – did they forget she also liked invading countries we are not at war with, killing innocent people and had no moral compass…She 100 per cent does not deserve our respect for her flawed choices. Go to war expect to be killed. You can’t have it both ways – oh nice little career with the military and shock horror when you get blown up.”
The ignorance of Sumner-Burstyn is breath-taking, unaware, apparently, that NZ and the other allies are there in Afghanistan with the full approval of that country’s government, a government, while not exactly my flavour of the month, which resulted from the only free election in the nation’s history, thanks to the same allies.
One imagines the vixen did not expect her shameful comments to reach as wide a public as they did.
The post went viral on the internet and by Sunday about 20,000 people had joined a Facebook group called “Sumner Burstyn give back your NZ Passport!”.
Now the creature is cringing, back in Canada, fearful probably of righteous Kiwi wrath
Sumner Burstyn, in a blog on Sunday from Canada, said it had been a difficult few days. “I made a … thoughtless comment for which I unreservedly apologise to the family, friends and loved ones of Jacinda Baker. “I do not in the slightest gloat at this young woman’s death – I bemoan the tragic loss of her valuable life. Certainly my choice of words at the time was not good.” http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7550800/Apology-over-dead-soldier-comments
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Having only just had this ghastly woman’s garbage drawn to my attention, I checked her out. She’s hardly somebody who makes a throw-away ‘thoughtless comment’ and later, on reflection, regrets it. She’s a serial ratbag. Here’s what she said about another fallen hero, Doug Grant.
” …He was a paid murderer in a war we have no truck with. A father who was happy to kill. “He was a free spirit” No, don’t think so – he was a man who took orders.” http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/08/despicable-2/
And here is a link to her ‘exchange of views’ with another NZ patriot.
http://nowoccupy.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/more-words-from-activist-filmaker.html
Her virulent, relentless hostility to the West, to patriotism, to the armed services, to the honest bloke who’s trying to debate reasonably, shines out like a hellish beacon, all the way through.
New Zealand affords its citizens free speech, which this vicious vixen has outrageously abused. Now she has the gall to complain that public reaction has been ‘extreme.’
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- Funny that. I’d have thought the Taliban’s treatment of unacceptable women was slightly more ‘extreme.’ But the Burstyn Thing evidently reckons they should be left to get on with it, unhindered by the civilised world.
Free speech is all very well.
But both the NZ Government and the NZ Herald ought to be free too, to reconsider whether they should pay out any more money for this enemy to enjoy her lavish life-style. Dismissal and defunding would be fair compensation.
Here’s that Facebook page where NZ is expressing its collective anger. http://www.facebook.com/groups/sumnerBurstyn/
## Update – I’m informed she was not in fact born in Canada, but seems to flit back and forth between the two countries.
Nevertheless, since she’s now taken to hiding out in Canada, I’m sure New Zealanders would rather she stayed there. Having said that, it could well be that Canadians may not relish having such an undesirable alien skulking in their proud Dominion!
In any case, if she’s NZ-born, it makes her conduct all the more heinous.
Oh, and I’m assured the NZ Herald no longer uses her junk. All to the good. Nobody should provide her with a platform.
.Jasmine, 
William Sparling, 
rossrightangle 
Bob Murphy 05:52 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Thanks from NZ mate. Kia Kaha!
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SJPONeill 05:55 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Good words – love the ‘vile vixen’ handle – cheers from down under
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ORION 08:01 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
The fact remains that the so-called West has nothing to do in Afghanistan, that the president is a former employee of Unocal, that the war is about a pipeline contract given to an Argentinian firm instead of Halliburton, that millions Afghans have been killed, that DU has been dumped all over the countryside with terrible consequences for the unborn, that the drug trade is flourinshing, that the West is allied with the the drug lords of the Northern Alliance, that the Afghan army cannot be trusted and will turn against the departing invaders, that Karzai like the Russian puppets before is not likely to survive more than a year without his masters. It is amazing that the fools will never learn. It is Viet Nam all over again! Cut the fuel supply from Pakistan, the flow of arms and equipment through Russia and let the Chinese supply some Stinger missile copies to the Taliban and you will see those glorious allies running down the Khyber on foot. In the American motto IN GOD WE TRUST, G.O.D stands for GOLD, OIL AND DRUGS. Afghanistan stands on a trillion dollar in untapped minerals, is the gateway to Central Asia’s oil and the major supplier of opium in the world. Any wonder why those western mercenaries are sitting in Kabul? The purpose of empire is theft and grand larceny and the Anglo-American Empire is no different from its predecessor, the British Empire. Afghanistan is not named the GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRE for nothing! Alexander’s empire ended there, the British went in three times and got a drubbing, the Russians took three days to get into Kabul and 12 years and thousands of casualties to come out, the Anglos will start running soon…
It is sad for the poor sods who went to get killed there “for oil and drugs”, but they volunteered so they should have known what to expect. No reason to spit on them though, they are victims. as Rudyard Kipling once said”
If you lay wounded on Afghan plains
And the women come to cut you up
Save your last bullet and blow up your brain
and die like a soldier
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Thomas Jo 08:04 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
The collective past and present service personnel of our Defence Forces have fought in past wars and in present threatres of war – albeit as Peacekeepers, for the right for all person to have FREEDOM. This freedom also takes the form of freedom of speech. The irony here is that this very freedom has been abused by Summer-Burstyn, a Canadian who has been afforded one of New Zealands highest awards ” a New Zealand Passort “!! For a person to hold this honour a person states they will honour our Queen, and country. One assumes this means that they will stand by our nation in an honourable way. Clearly our past and currently serving defence personnel are doing so, The loss of such exceptional young people who choose to serve on our behalf is felt by all TRUE New Zealand citizens. One assumes Summer-Burstyn had no problem allowing our defence force fight for her counries freedom during WW2 ? and for this right to be afforded to her here in Aoteroa. How dare she so loosely take her chosen countries right of honour and lash out at honourable people doing an honourable job. She is a disgrace to Canadia, her family, her passport and herself-not that the later matters as she has no morals. Clearly Summer-Burstyn SHOULD not be allowed to continue to live in our beautiful and amoungst our beautiful people who honour our fallen hereos.
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Thomas Jo 08:11 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Oh! I have just read the last comment and it apprears this woman is one of ours!!!!!!!!!!! Good grief the system has failed us if this is what we turn out as honourable citizens. Her family must be mortified to have her in their fold!? What an absolute disgraceful mouth on a citizen of our land. I still advocate that her citizenship be removed and maybe she may like to take up residence in the country our fallen have given their lives for.
I will apologise to the Canadian people for mentioning them in my early comment, as it was thought this craeture was one of theirs. However I doubt Canada or any other respectable nationa would want to claim her as their very own.
Canada do the honourable thing and throw her out before she does your lovely country some serious PR damage!
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andycanuck 14:57 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
I don’t know about the NZ Herald but I’m guessing alot of people use her junk.
And that’s okay, Thomas, we’ve got our share of idiots like her too.
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Dirt 15:43 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
This Canadian thanks you for drawing attention to that progressive hag, typical of a progressive female to mewl and wail and mourn the Taliban filth and spit on those who go into foreign nations to fight evil. Slap a Burka on that woman, she’s no different than the Taliban fanatics.
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Kursk 15:59 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Orion, if you are going to quote Kipling, you could have at least done it properly..it is actually
“When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier _of_ the Queen!
For you see, unlike yourself, Kipling believed in and admired the soldier. Often fighting in an unfamiliar environment, at the mercy of political events he had no control over, he did his best to serve. This seems to be an alien concept to some.
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Big Mike 16:13 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Post your comments here. Post them on Facebook. Follow up with an email to your Prime Minister of Canada and Jason Kenney, MP. Demand this wench be removed from Canada immediately. She may be claiming landed immigrant status before long. As usual, good job, Ross!
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ross1948 16:23 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Thanks, Mike.
As said, she’s hitherto unknown to me, but as info keeps coming in, I gather her husband was raised in Canada but has dual NZ/Canadian nationality. Probably tricky to deal with her.
One does have to wonder why she doesn’t seek sanctuary with the Taliban, since she finds civilised countries’ efforts to quell their barbarism so utterly unacceptable!
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GCBC 17:32 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Interesting that she ran away to Canada as soon as her comments made it hot for her. She does not have some of the most valuable characteristics of both Canucks and Kiwis- respect for others and the grit to stand behind her word. Running like a scared jack rabbit, when things get tough, is not something either of our two countries is known for. Too bad she got in here before we heard of her remarks.
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ORION 17:49 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Tks Kursk for the correct version of Kipling’s poem. I should have said ….or something like that! Of course, the poet of Empire would have approved of soldiers and so I do if they are here to protect their country, but if used to grab other people countries for vested interests, they cease to be soldiers and become mercenaries on the payroll of corrupt politicians. An Irish song states that:’ a soldier is the living proof of inhumanity…”In all conflicts , there are always two sides: the victim and the agressor. Unless one believes that 9/11 was caused by a man holding a camel in a cave in Afghanistan, that Iraq had WMD and that Iran has nuclear weapons which even the CIA discounted, the agressor here would be the Empire and the victims the people of those countries. Those countries never threatened New Zealand or Canada for that matter, or the US either, which participated in two hundred wars in the 200 odd years of its existence. If the US was fighting on the Mexican border, it would have my entire support. Instead its army is sent to support vested interests and the Mexican border is wide open to crimmigrants who are invading the country. And the same goes for the other European partners.
As to Thomas Jo’s right for all people to have FREEDOM….please! Who decides what is freedom?
What passes in the West for freedom is in fact DECADENCE, not freedom, Rome in its last days.
End of Empire! Wake up before it is too late or end up like Prince Harry, romping naked with tarts. As to New Zealand fight for her countries freedom during WWII, again in that case Germany did not threaten New Zeland or Canada or the USA, not even Poland who really started the war by mobilising its army. BRITAIN DECLARED WAR, not the other way around and as James Baker III , for Secretary of State under Reagan said in 1992: ” We painted Hitler as a monster, a devil and that is why we could not move away from that portrayal after the war. We had mobilised the masses against the devil incarnate and so we were forced to continue in this satanic scenario after the war. We could not possibly have explained to our people that the war had actually been only A PREVENTATIVE ECONOMIC MEASURE. (Der Spiegel 2/92)
Churchill the destroyer of the British Empire and Europe exclaimed in 1945 :”WE SLAUGHTERED THE WRONG PIG!” Those who advanced him some 100 000 pounds to pay his gambling debts and thus save his beloved Chartwell residence, were well pleased with him. He was the mercenary who went to do the killing while they were cashing in. Somebody once said that there are no good wars and no bad peace!
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Arty 02:42 on August 27, 2012 Permalink |
Put the pointy end in your mouth then hook your big toe in the trigger guard and straighten out your leg, maggot.
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ORION 16:03 on August 27, 2012 Permalink
I would gladly do that if it would open some people’s eyes on the way the world is run. Unfortunately looking at Arty’s reply, there is no hope. So carry on dreaming!
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The LS from SK 18:41 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
When someone finds out where she lives (city – likely Toronto) let us know.
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ross1948 23:01 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
It’s important that this campaign of exposure should not be construed as any kind of physical threat, despite the near universal loathing she inspires. Apart frol legalities, that would be counter-productive.
I’d have thought a peaceful demo in the town / city centre of her locus, urging local shop-keepers and businesses to boycott her, would be an effective move.’
Incidentally, this particular post had an initial surge in NZ but that’s now overtaken by the number of Canadians checking her out.
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The LS from SK 00:07 on August 27, 2012 Permalink
Ross…couldn’t agree with you more. BCF seems to think She has landed in Montreal much to the dismay of Canadians if that is true. Seems we let anyone in.
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Blazingcatfur 20:47 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
Good work, glad we know who she is now.
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troonbop 22:52 on August 26, 2012 Permalink |
The cringing apology always sickens me. If she actually believed this vile nonsense, fair enough, let her stand behind it. Although I suppose I can understand why she thought nobody would actually be listening to her in the first place.
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MikeNZ 05:23 on August 27, 2012 Permalink |
The most interesting thing is that she expressed her comment – yet active NZDF personnel are calling for her and her families murder?
Isn’t that TERRORISM?
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wallace-ok 08:15 on August 27, 2012 Permalink |
I am on the same page about physical threatening, only get good people in trouble with the law, even so…there are exceptions to all rules,
But you got a good idea about the demo. People should be doing a demo a day wherever she lives, and follow her around, till she decides to join her little Taliban heros, and they’d make short work of her! .
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The LS from SK 14:55 on August 27, 2012 Permalink |
She writes here too? Some Bright people are not very smart.
“Barbara Sumner Burstyn is a freelance writer who commutes between Montreal, Quebec and The Hawkes Bay in New Zealand.
She describes herself as an eclectic short-term obsessive with a desire to find the common threads that connect each of us to diverse issues.
She has contributed to a wide range of media including a weekly column for The New Zealand Herald, NZ Sunday Star Times, The New Zealand Listener, design magazine Urbis, business magazine Unlimited, Air New Zealand In-flight Panorama, contemporary culture publications Metro, Investigate, Flash, Pulp and Loop, women’s magazines Grace and New Idea, Independent on Sunday (UK), Montreal Gazette (Quebec), Sailing (USA), Harpers Bazaar (Aust.), the Ottawa Citizen, and MacLean’s and Readers Digest (Canada). Her work is regularly republished on US websites: http://www.dissidentvoice.org and http://www.progressivetrail.org
She is the winner of the 2004 Qantas Media Awards Social Issues Columnist of the Year and a finalist 2004 Qantas Media Awards Columnist of the Year”.
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Tony Makariak 01:36 on August 28, 2012 Permalink |
Also as a former member of The Canadian Armed Forces I Apologize to the good people of New Zealand and to Lance Corporal Jacinda Baker family on behalf of Canada. Hopefully “OUR TRASH” will never wash up on New Zealand shores again !
http://www.facebook.com/CanadaRemembers
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The LS from SK 12:04 on August 28, 2012 Permalink |
This item is determined to achieve full victim status. She is now in Toronto and calls the cops at 1 am. Sure knows how to stay under the radar and make friends with the cops back home.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/08/27/sumner-burstyn-new-zealand-threats.html
She is NOT Canadian but her husband is.
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Joeseph 19:27 on August 29, 2012 Permalink |
Just a question mate, were you able to confirm is this vile venom spitting being Canadian, New Zealand or another nationality?
Have you got an email address?
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ross1948 21:04 on August 29, 2012 Permalink |
I had thought she was a Canadian import to NZ, but several Kiwis advised me that she was Kiwi, married to a Canadian.
According to different media, she is ‘a Canadian now living in NZ’ http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/breaking-news/nz-military-probes-threat-against-canadian/story-e6frg13l-1226459986869 but she is widely quoted as saying of her critics ‘“This is the black underbelly of my country.’ Yet her numerous blurbs are reticent about her place of brth and schooling.
Her husband is certainly Canadian and she seems to flit back and forth so my view is that decent Kiwis and Canucks alike are entitled to be appalled at her association with their nations.
I see we have had several hundred New Zealanders reading my blog today, so perhaps one of them can provide a definitive origin for the Thing.
Google searches show at least one email address for her, but I strongly susect it will be discontinued by now.
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William Sparling 02:24 on August 31, 2012 Permalink |
I am truly relieved to find out she is not really a Canadian. The thought that one of ours would be so offensive, so stupid, so (there is no word strong enough and still printable!) is horrifying. Not to say that we don’t also have our own homegrown idiots but this disgusts me on so many levels. If her husband is indeed Canadian, I can only hope he is wise enough to see her for what she is and dumps her. We don’t want her here, but you don’t want her either. Might I suggest a hovel in Kandahar might be an approriate place for her?
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.Jasmine 15:37 on April 7, 2014 Permalink |
Gee, Ross. I just saw this old story. You did a wonderful job back in 2012 and a lot of our New Zealand people obviously appreciated it.
I had never heard of RRA then, so have been going through all this.
What is this witch up to now? Any idea?
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