UN Sec-Gen’s Inglorious Omission on Women’s Rights
Lauded by some readers, deplored by at least one, for my slightly frivolous post on International Women’s Day, I wish to balance it by this link to an article by Ban KiMoon, UN Secretary General, in which he rightly inveighs against maltreatment of the fair sex.
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Ban KiMoon——–
But strangely he issues no condemnation of shariah law, despite its grossly sexist, discriminatory character. Shariah specifically decrees unfair shares in family inheritances and demands that women be forced into hideous garb like this…
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………..while their husbands, sons and brothers may freely go about unshrouded, looking like human beings.
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Until he does have the guts to call for the proscription of such iniquities, might it not be wiser for him just to shut up?
Yonks, 
Pak Naryan, 
rossrightangle 
Pak Naryan 19:19 on March 9, 2013 Permalink |
You do not understand shariah.
Inheritance is greater for men because they must look after women. The scarf or the burka are to save women morals.
But you do not care for the morals, you want them to show so much of the body, Same like the photographs you show yesterday.
No good!
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Yonks 08:06 on March 10, 2013 Permalink |
Troll you what Nayan, you show us which country represents this nation of morals? In the meantime, I know it may come as a surprise but women do not need you to look after them. I understand its difficult to understand if the only inter action with women is the mother figure but really you need to get out and lose the intolerance and ignorance. In the meantime, the women in my family had a good laugh that they would need someone like you to look after them, so thank you for that.
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Pak Naryan 14:00 on March 11, 2013 Permalink |
You Yonks same like Ross, do not respect our culture, our religion, our laws.
You look after your women how?
Your country has no moral, women go naked nearly around the cities and streets. We do not ever want this here.
Only bad women in bule bar here live like you want.
Better you take them out when you leave to go home.
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ross1948 19:26 on March 12, 2013 Permalink |
Hi, Pak!
You are welcome to rail against me, but please note that Yonks and i are very different in our thinking on many issues – that’s the advantage of growing up in civilised countires that usually let people think for themselves, and do not suppress minority creeds that ‘upset’ or ‘disturb’ people like you.
Incidentally, I’d like your view on this latest story on the UN and women’s rights.
“TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — Libya’s supreme religious cleric is calling on Muslim nations to reject a United Nations document on women’s rights, saying that it counters Islamic law.
Mufti al-Sadiq al-Ghiryani issued a fatwa, or religious edict, against the document set to be signed by nations at the 57th session of the Commission on the Status of Women….”
My own reaction is to wonder why the West bothers to make sacrifices to give people freedom if benighted ignoramuses like the Mufti only use it to instigate oppression. I suspect we’re about to make the same mistake in Syria.
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Yonks 21:22 on March 12, 2013 Permalink |
Ah Naryan, I thought up you had run away in the face of facts as all too often happens. Firstly, I don’t know who you think gave you the authority to speak for all Indonesians but I can assure you it has not been granted by any of the Indonesians here but they do enjoy the laughs. Nor has that authority been granted to any of the primary Muslim parties including the corrupt and laughable PKS.
You are obviously confused as you seem to think Indonesia has only one culture, one religion. That is incorrect, in fact in my region that imported Arab culture is definately regarded as a very late and unwelcome new arrival.
You have not answered my orginal question where is this country of morals and religious justice? Oh and I hate to make you more confused but women in my world are respected and honoured in their own right.
Lastly, it won’t be me that is leaving but outdated ideas and ignorance as more and more people are educated in freedom, democracy and respect.
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Yonks 12:21 on March 13, 2013 Permalink |
“You do not understand shariah” Hi Naryan, I am a bit disappointed as there is no response yet, maybe you are busy. If I may pose a question, you say I do consider myself quite a scholar of Islam but Shariah law does indeed remain a mystery to me. Can you direct us to the definitive book of Shariah law, as there does seem to be a a fair bit of confusion. Certainly inheritance is very vague, for instance The Shia will give a wife 1/8, the only daughter 7/8, and the sister nothing, while in Sunni law the wife will 1/8, the daughter 1/2, and the sister as universal heir will receive 3/8. My head is hurting already.
However as you have pointed out my ignorance in Shariah Law and I assume you are Indonesian, could you direct us to the Shariah Law we are supposed to follow. Can women drive cars (they cannot in Saudi)? How about banking, we must bank in accordance with Shariah, is Malaysian Shariah banking ok? If so that is confusing because Malaysian banking is not accepted as Halal in many parts of the Middle East. Do we have to circumcise our women? As we are directed in the Quran “if you must cut cut lightly” it would appear to suggest circumcision is Haram (outlawed). Which is the true Shariah Law..Sunni or Shia..how do you know?
Anyway lots here and I am sure you can help///
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Pak Naryan 12:24 on March 14, 2013 Permalink |
Yes i am busy so today I return.
Of course circumcision is not haram. It is good for women, same like the vaccination you give your children without consent.
Shariah is not confusion, no more than other laws like your lawyers always argue about in west courts. You ask for one moral country to name, I think people in most Muslim country more moral than most west country.And that is because of shariah..
You Yonk and Ross here do not like moral life, like so many bule expat foreigne, and you want alcohol in our stores for any people to purchase. You want bars to be open and so make it easy for our people to break shariah.
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Yonks 09:59 on March 15, 2013 Permalink |
Sorry Naryan, I hate to burst your bubble but no Muslim countries are not more moral by any measure, just saying something does not make it true. Although to be fair it is not just Muslim, you will find that in any country that loudly proclaims its pious nature the opposite is normally the case. Anyone who has traveled will tell you that sexual gratification is far easier to come by in Indonesia than any Western Country I can name.
However let’s not focus on genitals for second (although I know religious types cannot help doing that). Lets talk more broader morals, the facts just do not support your statement that Muslim countries are more moral. If so why does Indonesia fit so far down the world corruption index, why are all Muslim countries renown for bribery and corruption? Can you name one Muslim country in the top ten “non-corrupt” countries.
Of course Shariah law is confusion as there is no such thing in the Koran but rather a collection of various peoples opinions. Tell me where I can find a definative copy of Shariah Law? I ask you are where is the Koran reference for Circumcision in the Quran? Please do not make things up that are not there as that is Haram. As a matter of interest, circumcision is child abuse and serves no purpose expect to sooth the sexual insecurities of men. Vaccination on the other hand saves children from a life time of pain and suffering it is just evil to compare the two.
Naryan, As a Muslim you should be aware that it is not proper for a Muslim to accuse other people falsely. Personally, I don’t care what you think of my morals but the reality is, you could not possibly know if I am moral or not, stop listening to nonsense and start thinking for yourself. I feel sorry for you if you think having alcohol (by the way that is also allowed in the Quran) is such a moral issue. Perhaps you should be more concerned about PKS members watching Porn, having affairs, taking bribes and forcing people to pay more for meat. Or perhaps some concern for unelected, ignorant thugs like the FPI degrading the name of Islam .
Naryan, In a civilized world, you are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts.
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Yonks 15:27 on March 15, 2013 Permalink |
Oh, here is one to ponder…
“16:67
And of the fruits of the date-palm, and grapes, whence ye derive strong drink and (also) good nourishment. Lo! therein is indeed a portent for people who have sense. “
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