Jakarta Islamist ‘Scholars’ – Adultery, Co-Habiting? Stoning and Whipping!
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General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta, Syamsul Maarif, has declared that the proper Islamic penalty for adulterers and co-habiting couples are STONING and WHIPPING respectively.
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This identification with primitive savagery came about as he was commenting on the Government’s new-found determination to amend the law to include “cohabiting” as a criminal offence.
“MUI is obviously very supportive of the proposal. Not just Islam, but any religion, does not allow for adultery,” Samson said in Jakarta on Friday.
Quite so, and so they excommunicate transgressors, deny them sacraments, don’t let them into houses of worship, urge them to repent – but only in a barbaric Islamic state, like iran or Saudi Arabia, would any clerics expect the government to do their job for them, especially by means of pubic floggings, which are fair enough for child-molestors and other perpetrators of genuinely offensive CRIMES, but not for SINS that are a matter of personal morality….no?
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Well…no says Syamsul.MUI, he explained, consider that in Islamic law the act of adultery can be categorized as a great sin.
“If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
The proposal is also able to maintain the nation’s morality…http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705
“If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
The proposal is also able to maintain the nation’s morality…http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705
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We should be grateful to this spokesman for the MUI, which, please note, is not some fringe fanatic outfit but the official, state-sponsored (and subisidised) voice of Indonesian Islam.
We should be grateful to this spokesman for the MUI, which, please note, is not some fringe fanatic outfit but the official, state-sponsored (and subisidised) voice of Indonesian Islam.
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Now we know that the MUI really thinks. We know that, if given the chance, they’d turn this entire archipelago into a mirror-image of the shariah swamp up north, aka the Verandah of Mecca, aka Aceh.
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Worse, in fact, because Aceh only deploys masked thugs with whips – not quite yet back in the Stoning Age!
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Next time we hear some fool like Obama come here and talk about the wonderful tolerance and pluralist thinking he perceives all around him, throw this benighted bigot’s words straight in his face.
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The MUI hogwash is all the more offensive when you realise that one of the reasons so many people here co-habit is the Islamist bigotry which makes it so hard for Muslim girls to marry non-Muslim men.
The MUI, far from seeking to reform this mediaeval mentality, actively champions such anti-social and cruel obstructionism.
So far, the government’s proposals only extend to a draft Penal Code Article 485 by which any person who lives together as husband and wife, outside a legal marriage, shall be punished with imprisonment of one year or a maximum of Rp 30 million.
It would be a lot more civilised, a leap into the modern world, if instead they passed a clear marriage law which kept nuptial rules out of the hands of ulemas (and priests and pastors) and let any woman marry the man she loves.
Lairedion 02:53 on March 23, 2013 Permalink |
Hi Ross,
Long time no see (in the digital sense). As you know I do not necessarily agree with all your views but I do commend you for writing about Islamist pigs being a plague to the unity and diversity of Indonesia. The worrying trend is that more and more so-called secular nationalists are closet fundies as we could see with the current Golkar Bekasi mayor ordering the bulldozing of a Batak church. Indonesia don’t need the PKS or PPP. The nationalists are more than willing to fill the gap.
The only bleak light is Jokowi. For sure he will make mistakes but he doesn’t play race or religious games and dared to list a Christian Chinese as his running mate.
Good luck with your blog.
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ross1948 07:07 on March 23, 2013 Permalink |
Good morning, Lairedion.
Indeed a long time, and I have often wondered if the patrons of our once mutual ‘local’ are still about.
It’s nice to know you are still giving voice.
Thanks for the good wishes. Feel free to look in when you have time, always welcome.
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Derek 09:23 on March 23, 2013 Permalink |
Yea Lairedion. You are right, this Neneng is Golkar Party but acting like the Regent who came before she is elected.
Bakrie is Golkar, and cares nothing for the Lapindo victim people, she is Golkar and cares nothing for the HKBP victim people.
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Ati 12:08 on March 23, 2013 Permalink |
I agree, so many couple cannot marry here because ulemas so cruel, say bule man must convert. why must he? She can convert.
But best nobody convert, just marry like normal people in another country.
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Pak Naryan 14:31 on March 23, 2013 Permalink |
Lairedion you are another like Yonks and Ross, never respect Indonesia, never listen to MUI who tell the truth, the punishment for adultery is known to all Muslims, we do not fear if we are moral.
Why Ross do you like adultery so much? Why should you protect adulterers?
Why should MUI not tell Muslim women to live morally, not defy ulemas, parents, and God.
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Lairedion 01:11 on March 24, 2013 Permalink |
Pak Naryan,
The Indonesia I was once part of, was not perfect during Orba but at least more secure and free for a Javanese-Manadonese Roman Catholic. Why should I listen to the MUI? Why is there no respect the religious and ethnic minorities like those poor Batak in Bekasi. Why are we less than you people when the Constitution should grant us equal rights and protect us.
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