FPI Say ‘We Got No Guns!’ But Their ‘Military Training?’

‘Fitna’ means slander, and last night, the local TV channels, were at last catching up on the dramatic news of the shootings on the Jakarta toll road.

Jakarta – Six Sectarians Shot Dead, But TV News?

Rizieq the Fanatic’s close comrade, Munarman, was damn near spitting out the accusatory F-word at a televised press conference.

I do try to be fair, even to people I can’t stand, like Munarman…..

– yes, he who infamously called for people to “hunt down ‘liberals’ in their neighborhoods, to beat on their doors and expel them.”Jakarta Globe 15/3/12 

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  • …invited onto TVOne to discuss FPI’s hoodlum behaviour, Munarman lost the argument and then totally lost his infantile temper, hurling a glassful of water over the mild-mannered academic who’d bested him.

…..so I can say he gave a very different version of events, of which you can read a summary here…


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Moreover, he claimed that Rizieq’s violent vigilante gang, the FPI – the self-styled ‘Islam Defenders Front’ – had no access to fire-arms, though the police have displayed hand-guns taken from those they shot.

We also heard that Rizieq was hiding out, and that several FPI ‘laskars’ had been kidnapped!

It’s important to note that ‘laskars’ in that context means ‘fighters.’



So however they ended up, they had chosen to serve as ‘warriors’ in an extremist cause, and wear paramilitary gear.



The FPI record is infamous, and they’re not at all (except at the moment!) shy about advertising their violent inclinations.



Today there’s been lots more coverage, and inevitably Amnesty International, fresh from demanding suppression of dissent in the Western world…

Amnesty? Shamnesty! Making War On Free Speech!

….has leapt in, prattling about fact-finding.

Amnesty prattles much too often.


Cur Qureshi and Amnesty – Don’t Say We Weren’t Warned!

I expect many Indonesians, like many observant Western people, will treat Amnesty with the indifference it’s earned.


Another familiar name, which we mentioned only recently, has been heard….

Jakarta Boycott Reality Check? Ask Fadli, Caught Smiling With Trump! 

…and he rather subverts his main argument by his laughable initial assertion, viz.

“I strongly believe that the supporters of Habib Rizieq love peace…


Like at the Monas Riot?

But he carries on gamely…

“….and are not equipped with weapons.

It must be thoroughly investigated. If it is excessive, then the police have committed abuse of power. Kapolda must be responsible,” said Fadli Zon


But we know  – and Fadli knows – that an officer in the Indonesian armed forces got into a lot of trouble for including the gangster group in his military training course, about three years ago.

In fact, Fadli slammed critics who were questioning the program and FPI’s participation in it….   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/01/09/protests-against-military-training-for-fpi-exaggerated-fadli-zon.html


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Fadli Zon


The politician from the Gerindra Party also criticized the military’s decision to strip Lebak military commander of his post for recruiting the FPI in Banten to take the training recently, calling the decision “regrettable”.

But perhaps that military training programme merely encompassed push-ups and cross-country runs!?!