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  • ross1948 21:38 on April 19, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Aidit, , , , , ,   

    ‘We Don’t Want Communism?’ But if You Did, It’s Time To Apologise!! 


    At least the Jakarta Post kept its statistics in the realm of reality, in its latest obsessive article about the events of 1965.

    ‘It is believed that at least half a million people were killed.’

    One of them was the notorious totalitarian D.N. Aidit, of the PKI (Indonesian Communist Party) who infamously held up North Korea as his idea of how to run a country. He and his PKI comrades were no agrarian reformers but hard-core bigot reds, so no wonder some of them, so the JP whines, still experience discrimination.



    One cannot blame children for the evil reflected in their parents’ deeds, but it might have been wiser for DN’s son to keep a low profile, unless he’s prepared to repudiate the satanic ideology that motivated his sire. Instead all he says is that proper reconciliation should be based on a revelation of the truth both from the perpetrators’ side and the victims’ side. The truth revealed could then be passed on to future generations.

    Fair enough, on the face of it.

    But who were the victims?

    Aidit Junior then called on the government to apologize, not to the PKI, but to the victims of the 1965 tragedy.

    But it was the PKI who caused the mass slaughter. Their lying communist propaganda gulled thousands of simple folk into their peasants’ and industrial workers’ front outfits, and it was those poor mugs who got the brunt of the backlash.

    Mind you, not all of the PKI fronts were naive dupes. 

    LEKRA, the ‘intellectual’ gang whose leading light was Pramoedya
    That nasty old swine was as viciously intolerant towards freedom-loving Indonesians as the IslamoNazi FPI is today intolerant of Indonesians who believe in religious liberty.

    I’ve referred readers to Tempo, issue May 16-22, 2006 before, but must once more do so, for it covers the evil old Red’s career rather well and explains why some 25 “prominent literary figures and cultural observers” put their distinguished names to a formal submission to the Magsaysay Award Committee in 1995, protesting at that body’s decision to give Pramoedya an award.


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    Their reasons were simply stated, viz his unethical role during one of the darkest periods for creativity during the Guided Democracy era, when he led the persecution of artists and literary figures who disagreed with him. (this protest is air-brushed out of most Western references nowadays, though a brief mention is to be found in an otherwise slavishly pro-Pram article in the Economist http://www.economist.com/node/168819 )


    Aidit Senior was indeed killed, but plenty of his comrades ran like cockroaches, to the sort of countries where they’d feel at ease, tyrannies in which neither peasants nor workers enjoyed any vestige of liberty.  Places like Red China, and, I imagine, Castro’s Cuba, where evil held sway and still does. 


    aiditMetro TV - Kemarin, Che Guevara (Penjahat Komunis) - Siapa Besok? D.N.Aidit (PKI)? Aidit and Guevara- rabid reds unlamented


    Now some of these decrepit traitors have weaselled back, and have still not shown the basic decency to apologise, to repent of the vile ideology they sought to impose on Indonesia fifty years go.

    Not a word of regret from this character –  Haryono, spokesman of Lembaga Perjuangan Rehabilitasi Korban Orde Baru, an NGO working for the rehabilitation of New Order regime victims, said many people had become victims in the 1965 killings, thus it was important for the government to extend an apology.

    Was Haryono a PKI apparatchik?

    The JP sloppily fails to check. But Haryono’s politicised arithmetic makes one wonder. While estimates of those who died in 1965 range from scores of  thousands to a million, this geezer offers a staggering figure  –  the victims actually numbered 45 million.


    Even the JP is moved to note that Haryono did not provide details on where the figure of 45 million came from.

    It sounds as believable as the myth that the Reds were interested in Indonesian workers and peasants, except insofar as they might serve as cannon-fodder in PKI schemes to seize power. 

    In none of the nations around the world enslaved by marxism have the common folk been exalted, except in name only.

    The Reds, in Russia, China and Cuba, established themselves as a privileged ruling class. The PKI was part and parcel of that ideology and would certainly have done the same. Their leaders deserved all they got. Just a shame that so many harmless folk taken in by their lies had to die too.

    • Shamerossshame 08:00 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      More proof that you stand with the likes of the FPI when it comes to issues of social justice. Why don’t you just go out there with your ideological fellow-travelers and attempt to close down a meeting of survivors of this gross violation of human rights and their poor families who are simply calling for the record to be put straight?


      • Pam Trevelyan 17:53 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        I have no connection whatsoever with Indonesia but Ilike Ross’ blog and before you begin to criticise him, you should read what he has actually said, and what the communist defenders actually said.
        Last month he very forcefully objected to that FPI organisation’s closing down a metting by your fellow-travellers, about a communist called Tan Malaka, whom you mayknow about although I don’t.
        And Ross did not object at all to having the ‘record put straight. ‘
        What he’s objecting to is the demand that Indonesia APOLOGISE to the communists.
        Communists have always wanted to deprive people of their freedoms so if they don’t want to apologise for that objectionable ambition, why would anyone want to apologise to them?


        • ross1948 22:08 on April 20, 2016 Permalink

          Thanks for that, Pamela.
          You are correct in your corrections, though I wasn’t going to extend this debate personally.
          The other commies gave real names and email addresses so they can carry on the argument if they like.
          This creep doesn’t, so he’s had his go until he fesses up.


        • Rennie 22:22 on April 20, 2016 Permalink

          Yes, I see Ross did condemn the FPI thugs and that’s something to his credit.
          However, his bigotry against communists, and yours, Pamela, is pathetic.
          Communists may put a bridle on some liberties that Western liberals love to shout about, but they gave true economic liberty to millions who had long been oppressed and exploited.
          I know this is a forum for the ultrarightwing so won’t waste more time arguing with you but don’t you think there was more to the 1965 killings than just ‘zapping reds,’ as I suppose Ross would put it?’ .


    • Firman 08:39 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Yes it is just the same like you say. The PKI did never care about Indonesia and they did bad things to democracy people. Now it is that they want every body to say sorry to them but they never say sorry to Indonesia for what communism did.
      You write many things that I do not like but this time you write true about PKI and about Pramoedya who was a very bad man.


    • Mardianto 08:57 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      I come from Madiun and every Indonesian who is living here must know about PKI who was the traitors in 1948. My grandfather and his generasion fighting for MERDEKA had also to fight the PKI communist when they did uprising against us.
      Indonesia has won freedom but no thanks to PKI who wanted new masters from China instead of old masters from Holland.
      If they ask we forgive them the badness they have done then I will forgive but now they ask for apology and that must make us angry. .


    • Miss Pancasila 09:34 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      In 1965 there was real friendship between Muslims and Christians and other religion because they understand communism was enemy of God and also of democracy. It is not so much like that after all this time and it is better if we remember Indonesia beat communism by unity of all the Indonesia people who love freedom.
      So much trouble in our country because inter-faith fighting when we need remember we have more in common than not in common.
      Pramoedya never say sorry till day he die, same like these people this month who tell goverment to say sorry when Presiden Jokowi and all his goverment eventhough not even were born in 1965.
      It does not enter sense for apology today..We must be uniting because our Indonesia has so many problem.


    • Rennie 09:45 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      You have a dinosaur’s mind. You remind me of Reagan telling us that the Vietnam War was a ‘noble cause.’ America should have learned the lesson of Vietnam, as RFK should have never made that speech you love to quote when he called Cuba ‘an imprisoned island.’
      Obama whom you hate has been so much more intelligent, developing relations with Socialist Cuba and even Nixon had to recognise the People’s Republic as the legitimate government of China despite his Cold War mentality which you have not been able to shake off.
      Indonesia could have been a liberated country like China and Cuba because the PKi would have probably won elections and taken power by the ballot.
      Instead there was the bullet, many of them. And violence persists, the breaking up of meetings held to talk about that dark time in Indonesia’s past.


    • Aitcheson 11:52 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      You will really and truly have upset the communist sympathizers with this one, Ross.
      I’m only commenting because I think you will have provoked a few of them to comment and so my views will add some balance.
      I am no expert on Indonesian history but it would have been a disaster if that populous country had gone the same way as China and Indo-China.
      A massive threat to Australia.
      I am looking at it from an Australian angle but I do think these debates should be for Indonesians to have among themselves but with all the PKI sympathizers taking their case abroad, and people like Max Lane and his marxists here jumping in on the argument, it’s only fair play that you should give a different point of view some space.


    • Camilla 14:12 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      What did communists ever do to you to make you hate them so much?
      President Obama told young people last month that they can work out for themselves whatever they prefer as an economic system, and that shows a tolerant outlook that you would do well to develop, but I don’t think you’re capable of doing that.
      Every time I read your blog, something I try not to do before eating, I just feel sick that anyone in this day and age can hold such conservative views and even more sick that you dare express them publicly
      No wonder you were removed form Facebook.


      • Larry J McIntyre 21:30 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        Camilla, are you nuts?
        Communism is a hell of a lot more than an economic system. Concentration camps, show-trials, no free speech, go on strike get shot, do you know nothing of modern history?
        So conservatives should not get to speak publicly for what we beileve in?
        You fit right into the communist way, and I don’t feel sick, just sorry for you!. .


    • Timothy 14:22 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      So communists are not human?.
      You are a heartless monster!


    • Leslie 23:48 on April 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      As somebody who only reads your blog for the ads, I dontt care about all this politics. But it strikes me as typical Indonesia that when you thunder against the FPI, at least once a week, hardly anybody comments at all.
      Then when you call the PKI names, and they haven’t been around effectively for half a century, the expats (or at least foreigners, here or somewhere else) come down on you like a nuclear strike.
      I’m not sure what to make of that.


  • ross1948 18:19 on April 30, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Aidit, , comsymp, , , , , parade, , , Saigom, , workers' rights   

    Besok May Day – Jangan Lupa Pengkhianatan PKI! 

    Tomorrow, we have a national holiday in Indonesia, May Day, and you can bet your boots the workers will be out in force, a big procession through Jakarta, with lots of speeches and exhortations to flex their ( admittedly none-too-strong ) industrial muscle to improve their lot.


    • may-day-jakarta-indo May  Day, a few years ago, in Jakarta
    • —————–
    • They are free to protest, to slam the regime, to publish their angry posters and bulletins. They are free to strike too.

    About five years ago, things got out of hand on May Day, fighting between demonstrators and police.  It happens – but there was no ferocious crack-down. Some arrests, and that, I think, was that. 

    Compare and contrast.

     A few hours on a plane takes you to Vietnam, where the ruling junta styles itself, laughably, as a ‘party of the working class.’

    But workers in that totalitarian hell-hole have none of the rights that our good lads and lasses on the parade tomorrow enjoy.  


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    No right to strike, no free labour unions uncontrolled by the tyrants, no freedom of the press, no right to parade criticism of the dictatorship.


    And OF COURSE no free elections – what Communist oligarchy would risk THAT?

    Turned on the news after a while out sunning myself in the front yard, and lo, a wretched spectacle in Saigon – I choose not to use the city’s current name, which honours a despot.

    The camera recorded  a cowed people forced to observe their strutting oppressors, the Vietnamese equivalent of the Waffen SS, parading to ‘celebrate’ the Fall of Saigon.

    Living in a country which came very close to a Red take-over in 1965, it is always a consolation, whenever frustration sets in at abuses of power by bureaucrats or politicians, to remember how much worse it would be if those evil PKI SOBs had got away with their kudeta.


    • pkiposter


    Yet still today, we have comsymp creeps in the English-language media, on whom we have reported all too often, bemoaning the fate of those marxist malignants who survived their failed power-grab fifty years ago!

    Corruption is here, and yes, it’s nauseating. But I’ve heard it said the Vietnam communist cops are the  ‘best police money can buy.’

    Injustice, yes, that’s here too. But a free press and the handful of honest pols and the NGOs can raise their voices and fight it.

    aidit Aidit, the PKI Fuhrer who adored North Korea


    Had that unlamented old hypocrite Pramoedya, and his patron DN Aidit, risen to rule this archipelago, we’d all be in the same endless nightmare that still grips Saigon.

    My Indonesian friends and neighbours might even be dragooned onto the streets tomorrow to cheer their oppressors.  

    Twas President Reagan who called the Vietnam War a noble cause, and so it was. The tragedy was the defeat of ARVN. America and the Allies.


    Thank God Indonesia smashed the PKI!

    And may the cruel communist clique that holds Vietnam in servitude share their fate some day.

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