Having risen, wraith-like, after the deep sleep consequent to last night’s party, I have, as I rather expected, already had a request for my views on Donald Trump.
Do I agree with his call to deny all Muslims entry to America?
- At that party from which I’m recovering, I mingled merrily with Muslims galore. Later today, I expect a Muslim friend to call by for a visit. Another is due here on Friday and yet another on Saturday.
So no Trump-style ban operates under my roof.
But as commenter Merahputih presumably wants a more considered response, please read on.
La Stampa quoted the father of the shooter, also named Syed Farook, as saying.
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“I always used to say to him, be calm, patience, in two years’ time Israel will no longer exist,” he said, in remarks reported in Italian.
“Geopolitics are changing: Russia, China, America too, nobody wants Jews over there. They will put them all in Ukraine. Why bother fighting them? We did that before, and we lost,” the 67-year-old said. Father of shooter: Farook ‘agreed with IS ideology’, report says
So the death-cult killer’s Daddy is not a terrorist. Right?
He merely looks forward to the removal of Israel from the map of the world!
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That echoes the poster message we have featured before, published by Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia, a hate-group banned, please note, by several Muslim countries though not, despite another ‘cast-iron’ pledge by Cameron, in the UK.
Best to kick the old Daddy brute out of America!
And Mummy?
Get this, from the Daily Caller –
Rafia Farook, the mother of San Bernardino terrorist Syed Rizwan Farook, is an active member of the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), a Muslim organization that promotes the establishment of a caliphate and has ties to a radical Pakistani political group called Jamaat-e-Islami.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/05/shooters-mother-active-in-us-branch-of-pro-caliphate-islamic-group/
Farook’s affiliation with ICNA was revealed on Friday when MSNBC and other new outlets scoured the Farooks’ apartment in Redlands, Cal. An MSNBC reporter found a certificate of appreciation presented to Safia Farook last summer by ICNA’s sisters’ wing.
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And an explanatory note
ICNA may not be an official target of the investigation at this point but they are hardly the poster child for moderation in the Muslim community. They’ve welcomed terrorist recruiter Anwar al-Awlaki to their events and another of their members was indicted on federal terrorism charges in April after having been discovered plotting a different terrorist attack in the United States. http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/07/great-news-syed-farooks-mom-is-part-of-a-pro-caliphate-group/
So best to boot Mummy out of America as well!
BUT…
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- …I don’t agree with Donald Trump’s latest call for a ban on Muslims entering America.
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Let’s look at some Muslims in North America, those as dissimilar as could be from the San Bernardino beast and his fanatic family.
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Tarek Fateh A Muslim Voice of Reason – Khadr May Return, IF………!!!!
First of all, he must renounce jihad and the application of jihad and sharia law.”
Witch-Hunt In America – Against A Muslim Patriot!
Trump’s proposal would effectively ban heroic Muslims like Tarek Fateh from coming into the USA from Canada and will undoubtedly embarrass decent American Muslims like Zuhdi Jasser – read those links above!
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Indonesian Islamists
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My view is largely based on living here in Indonesia, a 90% Muslim country, and having Muslim friends, often as visitors to my home, who share my loathing and revulsion at the vile atrocities perpetrated by Islamists.
Every day I eat with, talk with, and travel with ordinary Muslim people here in Jakarta. They’re nice, friendly folks, for the most part. Why penalise them for the evil propounded by Islamists?
The Islamists here in Indonesia don’t just seek to make the lives of non-Muslims a constant misery…
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”moderate’ mayor
X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’
…but also torment dissident Muslims like the Ahmadis and the Shia (some of whom I’ve seen at the Yasmin services in town, uniting in protests at religious persecution)
Islamists also do all in their power to corral normal Sunni Muslim citizens, the kind I sit beside on kopajas and in my favourite warteg…
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warteg kopaja 
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…into a kill-joy Creeping Shariah world, totally incompatible with the cheerful character of the Indonesian people. ‘Creeping Shariah,’ Warns Prof. Muhammed, As Jakarta Dims! )
There are MANY truly moderate Muslims here, not just posers like that callow Bogor mayor who won’t stand up to intolerance.
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No, what Trump should do is to name and shame organisations like ICNA, and Obama’s play-mates in CAIR.
He should demand they REPENT!
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Wherever their money comes from, CAIR have branches all over the USA and ready access to the lap-dog media which covers up their own extremist ideology.
So if CAIR ( and ICNA) and were to declare clearly and unequivocally that it is not only criminal but also a sin against reason, and against any rational person’s concept of God Almighty, to threaten or incite harm against people who convert to another faith, and that it is both barbaric and moronic to incite or threaten violence against people who commit ‘blasphemy….’
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- …these organisations could do some good.
CAIR (and ICNA) might also usefully remind their followers in all fifty states that free speech is embedded in the United States Constitution and allows anybody the right to mock or satirise or criticise religions.
CAIR ( and ICNA) could helpfully add that it is every American Muslim’s duty to put loyalty to his or her country FAR ahead of any notion that there should be some sort of sectarian solidarity with non-American Muslims in lands where America’s armed forces are engaged in combat.
Denunciation of all those indisputably EVIL ideological positions by CAIR and ICNA would redeem their reputation in the eyes of patriots.
I would welcome Trump’s ( or Obama’s!) call on these outfits to echo the good Muslim Tarek Fateh and repudiate ‘the application of jihad and shariah law.’
Though sadly I doubt either CAIR or ICNA would heed it.
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JazPen 15:27 on November 18, 2017 Permalink |
Its sad to see those little kids being indoctrinated and I think this just makes a joke about that ‘Mental Revolution’ we heard so much about.. ..
Isnt President Jokowi going to do anything about this?
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Kezia 19:18 on November 18, 2017 Permalink |
Poor children. Poor Rimba people.
Poor Indonesia if this is done by our leaders and working with those FPI
One day maybe we will have tolerance here again.
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Jim in Jakarta 16:09 on November 19, 2017 Permalink |
So the Constitutional Court says the minority religions here have rights but within a week or two their kids are being brainwashed?
Sometimes the injustice here just makes me sick!
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