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  • ross1948 3:31 pm on January 11, 2019 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , blasphemy law, , , Martinus Gulo,   

    Another Petition, For An Indonesian Christian! 


    I just received this from ICC…

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    …so I am passing it straight on for readers’ consideration.

    Anybody, anywhere in the world, can sign.

    I would have passed it on to you anyway, but when I read that the bloodthirsty FPI vigilante gang were involved…

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    …I do so all the more enthusiastically.

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    Tell the Government of Indonesia to Release Martinus Gulo Who Was Imprisoned for Blasphemy

    The Republic of Indonesia must immediately and unconditionally release Martinus Gulo, a 21-year-old Christian who was sentenced to four years in prison and issued a fine of 1 billion Rupiah (approximately 68,914 USD) for religious defamation. He will have to serve an additional six months in jail if he cannot afford to pay the fine.

    Mr. Gulo was found guilty of blasphemy due to a Facebook post that insulted the prophet Muhammad under Indonesia’s controversial Information and Electronic Transactions (ITE) law. His arrest took place in March after the hardline group Islamic Defenders Front (FPI) reported his online post to the police.

    Time for Action

    Mr. Gulo’s sentence is an inhumane violation of universal human rights and only emboldens Indonesia’s radical Muslims to abuse the poorly worded hate speech law to discriminate against the country’s religious minorities. It is time for the Indonesian government to stand up for persecuted religious minorities, and free Mr. Gulo.

    The government of Indonesia must not allow this kind of abuse and must guarantee human rights for all citizens.

    How You Can Help

    ICC is calling on the government of Indonesia to release Mr. Gulo immediately and unconditionally.

    Sign the petition today to let the Indonesian government know that their abuse of Christians cannot continue. Will you join us?

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    • Russell Carnie 8:42 pm on January 11, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      How can a country calling itself a democracy put anyone in jail for ‘blasphemy?’
      I willsign the petition but if they are that intolerant I think they will ignore it.

  • ross1948 9:20 am on January 4, 2019 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , blasphemy law, , , , Meiliana mosque noise,   

    Good On Ya, Scomo – Oz Protests Plan To Free Ba’asyir The Unrepentant! 


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    • I used to think Indonesia’s Religious Affairs Minister, Lukman Hakim Saifuddin, represented a great leap forward, and, compared to the intolerant bigot who held that job before him…

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    Appointed by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono earlier this month to run the new task force into pornography, Ali told reporters in Jakarta yesterday that a set of universal criteria must be decided. He added that, “one criteria will be when anyone is wearing a skirt above the knee.”

    But Lukman’s pronouncements on the unleashing of convicted terror beast Abu Bakr Ba’asyir  “A Wise And Noble Step?” Islamic ‘Scholars’ On Terrorist Unleashed In Indonesia!– make me wonder, notably if he understands what forgiveness is all about.

    Lukman has asked the Indonesian people to forgive what the Jakarta Post euphemistically calls the ‘firebrand cleric‘ – whom most people would describe as a vicious, villainous fanatic. The JP goes on to remind us that Ba’asyir is a terror convict believed to have been responsible for the 2002 Bali bombings. 

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2019/01/20/he-is-really-old-religious-affairs-minister-asks-indonesians-to-forgive-baasyir.html

    Even given that belief, some people might, depending how their minds function, be prepared to take a relaxed view of the jihadist fiend’s release, since, as an octogenarian, he will, sooner rather than later, be dead, and burning in Hell for all eternity.

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    But even so…

    Lukman’s call for ‘public support’ of  Jokowi’s decision is apparently founded on a misunderstanding of forgiveness, which ( in the religion I was raised in – Protestantism) depended on repentance. If somebody says he’s sorry, and means it, then you should forgive him.

    Admittedly, I’m no expert on Muslim theology, but certainly here in Indonesia, Muslims who get together on Idul Fitri, Eid, after the Ramadan month, ask each other for forgiveness – mohon ma’af…

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    …for anything they’ve done wrong.

    But Lukman simply says “Every religion teaches us to forgive even the sinful ones. [Ba’asyir]’s condition has weakened because of old age and illness, so let us forgive him.”

    What, even if the sinful sectarian is not even a tiny bit sorry for the evil he’s done?

    And THAT is why the concern expressed by Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison is so welcome.

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    If Ba’asyir the Beast had finally recognised what an affront to humanity he is, if he had promised to kneel down outside the Australian Embassy in Jakarta in a public show of remorse for his foul words and deeds – heck, if he had disowned his monstrous ideology and sworn allegiance to the pluralist Pancasila principles of the Republic of Indonesia…

    But another issue of the JP tells us exactly how sorry Ba’asyir is.

    Ba’asyir, who is eligible to be released on parole on Dec. 13, insists on DEFYING a general condition of parole that requires him to express LOYALTY to the national ideology Pancasila, which is STIPULATED in Government Regulation No. 99/2012 on sentence reduction for inmates, including those convicted of terrorism….So [Ba’asyir] will be released unconditionally. His house will not be guarded by police. He can opine that DEMOCRACY IS A TRANSGRESSION (OF ISLAM) – We will let him…” (my capitalisation)

    That was said by Jokowi’s lawyer who thinks it acceptable that that Ba’asyir would continue to insist that he ”would only obey God.”  

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2019/01/19/lawyer-says-baasyirs-release-not-gift-from-jokowi.html

    Of course none of these quibblings would be necessary if only Indonesia executed every terrorist, as happened, to general joy, when the Bali Bomb Pigs were shot…

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    • Heru 12:55 pm on January 22, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Yes this is what I want to say too.
      Baasyir should apologise to ALL of us both Australians and Indonesians for his terror and should give up his hate.
      If not,keep him in a cage forever.

  • ross1948 2:00 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: A Man Called Ahok, blasphemy law, , , , ,   

    A Man Called Ahok – Film Bagus, Tetapi… – 


    I got off my idle butt this week and went to the movies. With so many films available on cable tv, and dvds, I don’t go to cinemas nearly as often as once I did.

    But this was different.

     

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    If you want a traditional film review, use the above JP link.

    I went to watch today because I admire the subject of the film tremendously, a very good, very decent, very human and VERY unjustly treated man.

    Most people here know that Ahok was the best City Governor that Jakarta has had in many, many years.

    Some people hated him, ignorant Islamist street scum…

    Jakarta Jew-Haters Boo Chinese Christian Candidate 

    …and high-powered extremist ‘scholars’ wanted desperately to see him brought down…

    Jokowi picks Ma’ruf Amin, key expert witness on Ahok’s blasphemy trial

    http://singchamindonesia.com/jokowi-picks-maruf-amin-key-expert-witness-on-ahoks-blasphemy-trial/

    …one of whom is very likely going to be Indonesia’s next Vice-President, chosen for that position by President Jokowi, who paradoxically had once been very happy to have Ahok as his running mate when Jokowi was running as a gubernatorial candidate in Jakarta.

    Ahok ended up in prison under the benighted ‘blasphemy’ law, an outcome which did dreadful damage to Indonesia’s reputation as a pluralist democracy…

    Slouching Towards Shariah, Indonesia Jails Ahok

    Despite the sickening sight of Islamist fanatics howling for his blood, to the bitter end, it has to be said that Ahok held the loyalty of MANY decent Muslims.

    Their courage can be measured by the intimidation they withstood, some of which was mentioned in a Jakarta Post report….

    During the gubernatorial campaign, some mosques called on Muslims not to hold funeral prayers for deceased Muslims found to have supported Anies’ contender, Basuki Ahok” Tjahaja Purnama, who is Christian of Chinese ethnicity.   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/11/22/city-to-hand-out-rp-1-6t-to-mass-organizations-religious-institutions.html

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    So while it was a fascinating, well-made film, it was a shame it did not cover the Jakarta chapter of his life, except brief allusions thereto at the very start and very end.

    I suppose an honest account of the events and their denouement might risk the movie-makers facing similar benighted ‘blasphemy’ charges, if they reported on the harmless quip which ignited bigot fury.

    My other criticism involves the English translation of the dialogues, which appeared throughout the movie.

    Surely it would not have cost much to get it done properly.

    Heck, I would have done the job for free, which might have improved the fluency and grammatical quality.

     
    • Jim In Jakarts 3:08 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Great, Ross.
      Twice in a week,you are back to telling us what we want to hear from you, about Indonesia today.
      Even if I am no longer in Jakarta, I still take a keen interest and agree with all you say about the dark path i
      Indonesia is going down

    • Kezia 3:11 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I watched it too!
      Thank you so much for going to watch this film and now writing about it.
      Ahok is a hero.

    • Santi 3:54 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I will go watch it now. We wish Ahok was still our governor.
      He is the best

      • Santi 4:19 pm on November 14, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        I watched it, a very interesting film but same like you it is I think a very great pity we do not see the bad people with the signs saying Burn Ahok and we do not see President Jokowi on the platform with Ahok-haters like Rizeq.
        That was a very bad day I will never forget, again same like you.

    • JazPen 4:09 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Me and a lot of people I work with here are now setting off to see this film.
      All Ahok fans together!
      If you say it is worth watching, they are all happy to accept your recommend.

    • Euis 5:07 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      We all admire Ahok.
      He was the best governor but he was honest so they hated him.
      It was all about hate.

    • Wayan 5:43 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I do not live in Jakarta but I will try to see this film because even in Bali it is true that most people think Ahok is a good guy.
      Freedoms of religion matter to Balinese because most of us are minority religions.
      The people who hate him also hate freedom of religion and say they want to kill anyone who wants to leave their religion.
      They are enemies of Pancasila not welcome on our island.
      Ahok will be welcome any time when ever he is free to come here.

      • Connie Milson 7:29 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        Ahok should of course be freed at once and should never be in prison anyway.
        Nothing he ever said or did should have been cause for arrest or trial or prison, but he is not the only one imprisoned in Indonesia for what should never be a crime in any country that says it is a democracy.
        There is a petition circulating demanding the release of another ‘blasphemy’ victim held in an Indonesian prison.
        I will send it to you tomorrow.

    • Laras 6:37 pm on November 13, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I was able to understand the English they added onto the screen but even I myself can see it was not correct English all the time.
      You did a good job teaching me ten years ago, Pak Guru!
      PS yes, very good film.

    • Tulus 7:16 am on November 14, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Ahok should be free.

    • Puji 7:40 am on November 14, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      The way even funerals used against the people to make them turn against Ahok was wrong and very cruel.
      His enemies belong to other cultures and not Indonesia.
      More like Somalia gang warriors I think.

    • Emas 2:21 pm on November 14, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      We saw Ahok film and it make our heart sick at how he is a prisoner for no reason.

  • ross1948 7:35 pm on November 8, 2018 Permalink | Reply
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    Blasphemy Banned In Eire? Shamnesty Wants It Back! 


    I do like spiked.com.

    The contributors are mostly liberal or left by most people’s definition, but they have a clarity of intellect which is rarely found in rags like the Guardian…

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    ….and there’s a lack of the intolerance which left-liberals habitually exhibit. A spiked lefty woman’s take on the recent outrageous episodes in America, for example, exonerates The Donald from blame, even though she plainly dislikes him and his policies.

    Spiked.com is also educational.

    I learned a lot this month from an article about Eire, a country I have little time for, due to its aggressively expansionist aspirations against the British people of Ulster.

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    The article vexes me a little, because it insists on calling Eire ‘Ireland,’ which is an all too common error. Ireland is of course a geographical expression, an island, not a nation. It is sheer cheek for the Dublin government to use the word.

    But I have covered that ground before…

    GAA = IRA? Yes, But A Broken Britain Won’t Mean An Expanded Eire! 

    …so let’s move on to what I learned, about Eire’s 2009 defamation law, which incorporated a definition of ‘blasphemy’ viz. ‘…grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion.’

    Absurd to include such censorious nonsense in the laws of a modern European country, but what shocked me was not that legislation but that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan both congratulated Ireland…”

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    You’d think when two such Dark Age dens made their delight known, any self-respecting democracy would instantly have u-turned and repealed the retrograde rubbish.

    That didn’t happen.

    But get this, what did happen!

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    After the Islamist atrocity at the Charlie Hebdo office in Paris, six years later, certain ‘Islamic leaders’ in Eire showed exactly what sort of intolerant aliens they were, by invoking that very law, to threaten prosecution of any media that reprinted the cartoons.

    The craven Eire media quailed before these arrogant sectarians, but plenty of other media in other lands did the same. I won’t single Eire’s out for condemnation at this late date.

    But what is absolutely appalling, as the spiked.com writers says, is that ‘one Islamic cleric in one mosque in Dublin was able to make an editorial decision for all Irish media.’.

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    After another few years have passed, no such insolent attempts at censoring those media can now be made, for now that ridiculous blasphemy ban is gone.

    Good riddance, and good riddance too if any uppity ‘clerics’ decide to leave for pastures more amenable to sectarian censorship!

    But hold on just a cotton-pickin’ minute!

    Eire too has its Enemy Within, people who want reintroduce a new blasphemy ban, under the guise of ‘hate-speech’ prohibition!

    The author of the article is forthright, and identies the jackbooters – ‘Amnesty Ireland and the Irish Council for Civil Liberties.’

    There have long been laws in most countries, at least in the Western world, more than sufficient to detain and prosecute anyone who incites violence, arson or similar crimes. Nobody disagrees with those.

    But bans on ‘hate-speech’ are incompatible with freedom of expression.

    We all have some individuals and organisations we detest. We must be free to say so.

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    Think Gerry Adams.

    Think the ayatollahs in Iran.

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    Evil people deserve to be hated.

    Ideologies too exist which merit our hatred.

    Communism, obviously.

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    And the ideology of Hizbut Tahrir which puts sectarian supranationalism above loyalty to Queen and Country, and supports sexist injustice to women.

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    ‘Erase Israel from the World Map!’

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    Who doesn’t hate such poisonous thinking?

    On another level, ‘hate-speech’ laws are used against those who express a healthy distaste for sexual perversion.

    And most recently the degenerates on the ‘European Court of Human Rights’ in Strasbourg, which upheld that Austrian lady’s conviction for ‘insulting religion.’

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/europe-rules-against-free-speech/574369/

    Those un-elected  ‘judges’ are a menace to freedom in every country which are subject to their intolerant diktats.

    Why on earth should people NOT be free to insult ANY religion?

    As the spiked.com writer concludes, after noting the repeal of Eire’s ‘blasphemy’ ban, the oppressive and censorious demands of Shamnesty and its ilk would immediately make our vote entirely moot, seeing as hate speech and blasphemy are now essentially distinctions without a difference in Europe.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/10/30/ireland-is-still-no-haven-for-free-speech/

     
    • JazPen 8:23 pm on November 8, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      This is all good and that European Court ruling was very bad but what about the latest blasphemy rubbish here?
      Ross, you cant have missed it and a year or two ago you would have been all over it.
      I know the way they sent Ahok to prison was the most depressing thing that has happened here for years but I hate to think you have washed your hands of what is happening to Indonesia.

    • Tom Kimber 9:21 pm on November 8, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Well said, and no matter where we live, we should all be working to get rid of blasphemy laws and ‘hate speech’ laws everywhere.
      The former are medieval relics and the latter are weapons manufactured by the ruling elite to suppress dissent.

    • Stacy Stanton 2:28 pm on November 9, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      That Amnesy-Shamnesty need to be stopped from calling themselves a charity. They are shamelessly political.
      Orban in Hungary has the best idea, make those ‘ngo’ gangs declare themselves enemy agents, working for and often paid by the EU.

  • ross1948 11:41 pm on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , blasphemy law, , gymnastiar, , , , Minister of Religious Affairs list of 'moderate' clerics   

    Wants To Lock ‘Blasphemers’ Up – Yet He’s A ‘Moderate?’ 


    I remember when I used to see Abdullah Gymnastiar on TV…

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    • ….a man who came across as an engaging sort, a Muslim cleric quite different, very different, from the unpleasant hate-preachers like Sobri Lubis of the FPI, the self-styled ‘Islam Defenders Front…’

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7RLCXNdKF4  –

    ….infamous for his ( still on video) exhortation to a mob of rabid savages to ‘kill, kill, kill’ the peaceful Ahmadiyah minority.

    A.A. Gym, as he was known, had what you might call home-spun charm, and had a huge following of adoring housewives. That rather collapsed about a dozen years ago when he went Arab, by which, I mean polygamous.

    I say ‘went Arab’ because most Indonesians really do abhor the practice.

    They think it’s backward and sexist – and who can disagree, since what could be more sexist than allowing men to have multiple spouses, while women are limited to one?.

    So we didn’t get to see so much of Gym’s smiling face, until nearly two years ago, when who should pop up as ‘a proponent of the 212 rally.’ 

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/06/15/212-supporter-delivers-idul-fitri-sermon-in-istiqlal.html

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    The Jakarta Post this week gives us a fairly neutral, arguably timid, description of ‘212’ –a religiously-driven mass protest staged in December 2016 demanding the prosecution of then-Jakarta governor Basuki “Ahok” Tjahaja Purnama’

    I would have defined it rather more harshly as a gang of Islamist fanatics.

    The outlandish anti-Ahok campaign held numerous ‘marches’ – actually shuffles – which brought out all manner of backward bigots onto the streets of Jakarta

    The protesters, most of whom were men dressed in white Muslim attire, were heard yelling, “We want a Muslim governor,” “Burn Ahok!” and “Kafir!”   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/10/14/thousands-hard-liners-march-against-ahok.htm

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    Their goal, the jailing of Ahok for ‘blasphemy’ – and some wanted a lot worse for Ahok than mere jail-time..like Habib Rizieq, ‘grand imam’ of the FPI.


    “We encourage the government to process the death penalty for Ahok as soon as possible,” said Rizieq.  http://www.suara.com/news/2016/10/14/134313/

    …yes, their goal, when achieved, did horrific damage to Indonesia’s reputation as a pluralist democracy. Decent people of all creeds all over the world were shocked.

    One can only view those who instigated ‘212’ as intolerant sectarian extremists who should be excluded from any role in respectable public life, held at arms-length by responsible public figures.

    But today?

    Gymnastiar was preaching, not in any back-street zealot hang-out but in Jakarta’s grandest mosque, the Istiqlal, the splendid edifice to which visiting foreign leaders are taken by government high-ups..

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    …and where on this highest of Islamic holy days the congregants included both Jakarta’s Governor and Indonesia’s Vice-President Jusuf Kalla.

    How do preachers at the Istiqlal get selected?

    No idea. I imagine there’s a management committee, with some degree of autonomy, which is nevertheless sensitive to what and whom is acceptable in today’s Indonesia.

    You’d think anyone associated with ‘212’ would be a definite ‘no-no.’ You’d hope that anyone advocating prison for the bizarre ‘offence’ of ‘blasphemy’ would be kept well away from the pulpit.

    But you’d be SO WRONG!

    And here’s the sting in the tail!

    That same Gymnastiar’s name-

    was included on the Religious Affairs Ministry’s list of 200 Islamic preachers that are deemed moderate, which was issued last month.”

    And that, to those of us who love Indonesia and think religious liberty needs to be defended against Islamist intolerance, is a very depressing statement to ponder as the Idul Fitri festivities go on across the archipelago.

     
    • Thomas Wells 1:36 am on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      It sounds that Indonesia has changed greatly from the years when I lived in Jakarta and other cities.
      It sounds also that the changes are not so great for people who like freedom of religion and of expression.
      That is sad news. It was my experience that religion was not a cause of friction, in general.
      I hope it will not get to be a more hostile environment for freedom. However all that I read, and not only written by you, makes me pessimistic.
      Enjoy its sunshine while you still may.

    • Herli 12:38 pm on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      My mom was big fan til he took his extra wife. She always said his first wife was nice lady, why he so much need more.
      I did not know he was 212 fantaik. Now I also not like him.

    • Wati 3:03 pm on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      We were all so dissapointed in him when he doubled his wives.
      He is again dissapointing us with this that you tell us and it is very strange the government can call him moderate.
      I hope you having nice holiday like I am in my family home.

  • ross1948 12:15 pm on April 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: blasphemy law, Democrat Party, , GP Ansor, , , Rendra Hadikurniawan.East Java   

    Another ‘Blasphemy’ Victim! Indonesia Embarrassed Again? 


    After sending a good man to prison for ‘offences’ that would be laughed out of court in most democratic countries…

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    Slouching Towards Shariah, Indonesia Jails Ahok

    …Indonesia now faces further embarrassment over its archaic ‘blasphemy’ legislation.

    The interestingly named ‘Democratic Party’ has expelled a local official in East Java, because he dared question some tenets of the Muslim creed.

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    That’s the same party that ran SBY’s successful campaign for the presidency a few years ago, and since he, during his years in office, not only did nothing to scrap the bizarre ‘blasphemy’ law…

    ….but actually proposed that sectarian censorship be made a global diktat, no surprises, I guess, that the ‘Democrats’ are so eager to stomp poor Mr. Rendra Hadikurniawan.

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    Detained for saying what he thinks – Rendra taken by cops

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    And indeed, any party has the right to expel any member it doesn’t want.

    But the next chapter in this sorry saga is horrific, at least to those of us who care about Indonesia’s image overseas.

    Sidoarjo Ansor Youth Movement (GP Ansor), the youth wing of Nahdlatul Ulama, said the statement from Rendra, who was a member of the Democratic Party prior to the allegations, had hurt a lot of Muslims.

    htmlwww.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/04/29/democratic-party-politician-arrested-for-alleged-blasphemy.html

    Unlikely that anybody was admitted to hospital from watching a video, so we must assume G P Ansor means those pathetic ‘hurt feelings,’ which normal grown-ups handle without running crying to the cops.

    Times are a’changing here.

    I had always – but now no longer – considered GP Ansor a ‘moderate’ outfit, because they had real cred in standing up to Islamist louts….

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    Islamist Bullies – Who’s The Yellow-Bellied Brute In The Yellow Shirt? 

    But not any more, if this report is accurate – and I have no reason to think it’s inaccurate.

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    “We reported him to the police to avoid further public unrest,” said the organization’s deputy chairman, Rachmad Muzayin, on Friday

    East Java Police spokesman Sr. Comr. Frans Barung Mangera said that the police officers had arrested Rendra in Trawas in Mojokerto.

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    For pity’s sakes!

    Is it now a criminal offence to question dogma?

    Well, yes, obviously!

     
    • Kezia 12:32 pm on April 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you Ross. I was hoping you may write about this new attack on free speech by a new enemy, the Ansor. I also believed they were on our side for freedom, but I am very disappointed.

      President Jokowi made a promise to us for a Mental Revolution but that is impossible when we still have not got free from this olden times blasphemy censorship.

    • Intan 1:11 pm on April 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Very happy always when you come back to writing about Indonesia again and I am in agreement about this man Rendra .
      Why can he not say what he wants about any religion?
      Ansor and the NU let us down. They want oppose extremists but now they do extremists job and tells us we cannot speak about religion as we wish to.
      They are same like the intolerant MUI who will never debate but always ban. .
      What are they afraid of?

    • JazPen 1:40 pm on April 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I was just talking about this and then saw what you have written. Words of wisdom, and I dont always say that about your blog, Ross.
      Its pitiful how thin-skinned these ‘religious’ people can be.
      What the hell will be next?
      Ramadan starts in a couple of weeks.
      Will the FPI be out again picking on people who want to eat lunch?
      Or is it now so bad that the police will enforce the fast on everyone, whether we are fasting or not?
      Are we the last generation of happy expats here?

    • Jim in Jakarta 9:19 pm on April 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      So there is some talk of mental health issues?
      That sounds like the good old USSR to me, if you criticize the ruling ideology, you are unbalanced!
      Or is it that this detainee is getting ready to use it as a defense strategy against this unbelievable charge?

    • Siska 12:30 pm on May 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      It is easy for you expats.
      You may leave Indonesia anytime you want to leave.
      Have a pity on us.
      We must live here in our country eventhough it is not like our country anymore.
      Once we were freed from the Dutch. Who will free us from those who think like Arabs?

  • ross1948 5:30 am on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: blasphemy law, , Friday hate-parade Jakarta, , , Javanese hair-bun, Sukmawati Soekarnoputri   

    ‘Blasphemy’ Traffic Jams, Again? Jakarta’s Latest Fanatic Friday! 


    Poor Jakarta commuters!

    Once more fanatic Islamists are going to quite needlessly screw up the streets of the capital tomorrow, to protest about ‘poetry!’

    Seriously.

    Our traffic jam conditions here are on most days pretty bad, often absolutely hellish…

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    …so it’s bad enough they have chosen to ignore the obvious sensible day to do their thing, Sunday, when disruption to normal people’s lives would be minimised.

    But to stage their extremist antics about a poem written and recited by Sukmawati, one of the late President Sukarno’s daughters?

    The perpetrators of the parade plan are known as the PA212 , ( 212 alumni brotherhood)  and although the route is short – though they will likely insist ludicrously on calling it a ‘long march’ – it runs smack-dab through the heart of the city.

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    For local readers, I offer Tempo magazine’s description of the route – from Istiqlal Mosque to Mabes POLRI (National Police HQ)

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    One of their spokesmen tried to justify the massive inconvenience to thousands of innocent people.

    “This rally aims to support Police investigating the blasphemy case, whoever the doer is.” https://en.tempo.co/read/news/2018/04/04/055917299/212-Alumni-to-Stage-Rally-Against-Sukmawatis-Poetry

    Exactly how thousands of sectarians shrilling their hate for ‘blasphemy’ can be interpreted as giving ‘support’ to the police is beyond rational man’s comprehension.

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    Western countries got over these ‘blasphemy’ hang-ups a LONG time ago.

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    But rationality hardly comes into this.

    The so-called ‘blasphemy’ charge arises because the poem mentioned Islamic sharia law, veil, and the sound of adhan [prayer call].

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    Sadly, Sukmawati, who is herself a Muslim,  has ‘voiced her regret’ for her words, which were read out at Indonesia Fashion Week.

    “I am sorry to Muslim communities especially to those feeling offended by the poetry,” she said, weeping…

    Millions of Muslims here in Indonesia share normal people everywhere’s disgust at the frequent savageries carried out under Aceh Province’s shariah law…

    Aceh’s Mad Mullah – ‘Dancing is EVIL – It Involves Body Movements!’ 

    ..with masked brutes publicly flogging little girls…

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    ….and millions of Indonesian Muslim women go around like normal women – no scarf, no veil.

    BTW, I hear that some uptights got fretty because there was a suggestion that the Javanese hair-bun enhanced girls’ looks more than a head-scarf…

     Sukmawati also said that women with bun were pretier than women with veil… 

    http://www.republika.co.id/berita/en/islam-in-archipelago/18/04/03/p6lshi414-not-knowing-islamic-sharia-mui-its-a-mishap-for-muslim

    (that link is to Republika, one of the foremost Islamic media here, and reading it is alarming – and I don’t mean just the spelling and grammar errors!)

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    Women in Java never used to be ashamed of their hair!

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    …since when has stating the obvious been a cause for offence? 

    As for the ‘call to prayer’ – here are a few of the reports we’ve posted about that phenomenon.

    Turn It Down! Ex VP Urges Volume Control for Noisy Indonesian Mosques 

     

    Aceh – Muslim Seeks Quieter Mosques, Bullied Into Silence, after ‘Death Threats!’ 

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    So what’s all the fuss about?

    It seems to me that this is just another step in what we used to refer to as ‘Creeping Shariah’ – or Arabisation – a relentless drive to drag Indonesia away from her pluralist traditions…

    ….by using the ‘Blasphemy Law’  – imagine any country in the 21st Century having such a law – and is honestly not surprising after the jailing of Jakarta’s Governor Ahok merely for quoting a Koranic verse.

    But we’ve said all that before.

    Creeping Shariah,’ Warns Prof. Muhammed, As Jakarta Dims! 

    Kasihan, Jakarta, Sayangku – What A Pity, Beloved City! 

    Get Your Tickets Soon – Jakarta Shariah Tourism Boom? 

    Bigot Ban Hurts Jakarta Business – CreepingShariah Continues! 

    Just feel a bit of sympathy, wherever you are, for the misery intended by those sectarian zealots against all the sane citizens who just want tomorrow to go about their legitimate business. 

     
    • JazPen 10:31 am on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      All too true, Ross.
      Sometimes I wonder f this is the same country I arrived in years ago.
      Indonesia is going downhill fast.

    • Santi 10:37 am on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Good Ross! Why must she apologise for anything she wants to say?
      Indonesia is still a democratic republic and we must be free to speak

    • Wulan 11:30 am on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Java ladies always have looked nice with the hair and the kebaya and we do look more pretty.
      Why we must cover up like the poor Iran and Arab Saudi women.

      I am sorry my english is not so good but I think it is better than Republika, yes?

    • Jim in Jakarta 11:58 am on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      My sentiments exactly, Ross.
      I would like to discuss it over a beer but it will have to be soon.
      If their Prohibition Act gets passed we may both be in prison.

    • Kezia 12:18 pm on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you Ross for letting the people in other countries know how bad life in Indonesia is becoming.

      These jihadist marchers do not believe in the right of other people to free speech.
      Like Ahok before, now Sukmawati may be put in jail for her poem,and why?
      Because these fanatics do not like what she says.

      She is the daughter of our country’s Founding Father.
      What chances will there be for little people like me or my friends who like freedom to speak freely if the jihadists can do all this to her and make her offer an apology for telling the truth.

      It is all so sad. I hope you never leave us but at the least you as a foreigner can do that.
      Where can we go to be free, because this is our home?

  • ross1948 8:40 am on March 16, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Asma Dewi, bampot, blasphemy law, , insulting the government, , koplak ( stupid) and edun (crazy), otak udang, , wally   

    Brits May Still Call Amber Rudd ‘Koplak’ And ‘Edun!’ 


    As Theresa May ponders outlawing free expression in Britain…

    Hands Off RT! Somebody Should Start A Petition!

    …there’s been an astonishing verdict in Jakarta this week, some woman called Asma Dewi sentenced to prison for using the words koplak ( stupid) and edun (crazy) to criticize the government on Facebook.”

    As a rule, I find Indonesian ladies  delightful, but from what I know of this woman, I doubt very much if I’d enjoy her company, nor she mine.

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    She was reported to be the treasurer of the Tamasya Al-Maidah Islamic group that had encouraged massive anti-Ahok protests.   http://indonesiaexpat.biz/other/scams-in-the-city/manufacturing-hatred/

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    Ahok was a rather good Jakarta governor and was and still is a very good man, and I was horrified when he went to prison for ‘blasphemy.’

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    Slouching Towards Shariah, Indonesia Jails Ahok

    However, I’ve been in Indonesia for near enough 20 years and never heard the word ‘edun‘ though koplak (usually pronounced ‘goblok’ ) is a common enough insult.

    I prefer the more colourful term otak udang ( literally ‘prawn brain…’Hasil gambar untuk prawn

    ….a reference to the alleged anatomical location of the sea-creature’s brain, on or about its rear end!) as a put-down.

    But I’m a polite chap and try not to insult the people whose country I live in.

    Asma Dewi was given ‘time-served’ but she had languished in custody for over five months; so she’s out.

    However, one of the judges reportedly scolded her thus – ‘both words were not in the Indonesian official dictionary…

    So had she selected more formal insults, would she have been acquitted?

    Apparently not, under Article 207 of the Criminal Code (KUHP) for insulting those in power or legal institutions.   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/03/15/asma-dewi-sentenced-to-jail-for-using-swear-words-to-criticize-government.html

    However strange we Western folk find some aspects of the Indonesian Legal Code- and I’m thinking of that ‘Blasphemy Law’ as much as Article 207 – there’s not a lot we can do about it.

    Yet imagine if governments in the West were similarly shielded from unflattering comments!

    And in particular to SLANG insults!

    We’d find ourselves lectured by judges for describing Amber Rudd as a bampot or a wally.

    Mind you, such denigration of her intelligence pales in comparison to what most Brits said after she let all those burly so-called ‘child migrants’ in from Calais…

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    …despite their appearance suggesting they were old enough to serve in the armed forces!


     Brits should make the most of their freedoms, before they too find themselves behind bars for slang!

     
    • Andita 1:31 pm on March 16, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      So sad to think that she is out while Ahok is still in.
      Many Indonesian people think like you that he is in there for no good reason.
      Same like many other people who see nothing wrong to criticise any religion. or get mean treatment for only practising own worship.in own mosque like Ahmadiyah.
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    • Santi 2:01 pm on March 16, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you Ross, I always say thanks when you go back to write about Indonesia.

      It is crime to insult even people who deserve insult here and I do envy the British who can call the woman Amber Rudd stupid when she cannot see that these men are not children.

      Interesting story for me because I never know of it before.

  • ross1948 12:36 pm on November 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 'intensely religious' savages, blasphemy law, , heretics, ,   

    Bliss Was It In That Morn To Be…Anywhere But Pakistan! 


    That morn, unlike the morn when Wordsworth wrote about the French Revolution, was today’s sunny Jakarta morning, as the washing machine spun noisily and CNN blared its daily dose of Hate-Trump propaganda.

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    Awaiting today’s visitor, I had a look at the news, and had to ask myself once more a question pondered often…

    Do The Wicked Go To Pakistan When They Die? 

    Sectarian Barbarism – Alive And Thriving In Pakistan! 

    The Guardian headline sums up the hellish insanity in that Dark Age land.

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    Pakistan calls on army to restore order as blasphemy protests spread

     

    So far, there’s been about 200 injured, including dozens of police officers…https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/25/pakistan-calls-on-army-to-restore-order-as-blasphemy-protests-spread

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    The fanatic brutes’ leader, Khadim Hussain Rizvi –a firebrand cleric who leads the Tehreek-e Labbaik Pakistan party – has called for protesters to bring the whole country to a halt…

    And here’s useful info for Amber Rudd, for when she decides to import more unaccompanied minor crimmigrants!

    According to a local journalist…

    “Young boys with batons and stones, some with faces covered. [There were] several thousands of agitators in some locations of the city, where they lit up branches to block the roads…” ..

    What primitive savages! What a hellish place to live!

    And WHY is this anarchy raging?

    …a change in the wording of an electoral oath for lawmakers, which protesters claim was done to appease religious minorities they consider heretics. 

    Heretics? In Europe we had ferocious persecution  of heretics – centuries ago!

    Pakistan is, it seems, mired in that moronic mind-set still, crawling with evil ignoramuses who just can’t bear to think that others can think for themselves.

    It’s not a problem unique to that horrendous country.

    Fortunately, that Minister in the local media has departed the political scene – see  It’s hard to write about this without getting mad. 

    Indonesia may have its problem with nasty fanatics shrilling threats and causing mayhem…

    Jakarta Islamist Mob Amok – “We’re Muslim, Don’t Provoke Us!” 

    IslamoNazi Thugs AmokJakarta Cops Say ‘No Charges!’ 

    …but compared to Pakistan, it’s still a paradise.

     

     
    • Vrenti 4:15 pm on November 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Very readable and very true too. Pakistan needs to locjk up these maniacs or just shoot them if they get in the way.

    • Julianti 5:11 pm on November 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Pakistan is a warning to us. Very wicked same like you say.
      If we are not careful about our country Indonesia we can see what will happen.
      In Pakistan it is dangerous to annoy Islamist fanaticals.
      In Aceh here in Indonesia too it is dangerous also.
      The Jakarta Governor and his Vice-Governor want sharia hotels and that is only the first sharia thing they want.

    • Mort 6:20 pm on November 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I read the whole article you linked to, Ross and what needs to be added to your description is the Pakistan Government’s response.
      We might welcome their use of security forces to break up the Islamist mobs but the truth is they almost instantly surrendered on the point of principle.
      The jihadists were objecting to omission of an oath to their Prophet for all election candidates.
      That oath means Pakistan is NOT a democracy, because how can Hindu and Christian candidates take a Muslim oath?
      Of course it should be scrapped.
      But the government blamed it all on a misprint!
      The sectarian oath is back, so what’s the UN going to do about this blatant violation of rights? Nothing of course ,and American aid will continue to subsidise Islamist intolerance.
      We Americans need to complain to President trump, and about his cut-off in aid to the Kurds.

  • ross1948 12:29 pm on June 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , blasphemy law, , evil aliens, , , , Søren Pape Poulsen, terrorism intolerant Islamists   

    Blasphemy Law Where It Belongs – In History’s Trash-Can! 


    After the recent events here in Indonesia, with a distinguished Jakarta City Governor imprisoned for the bizarre ‘crime’ of ‘blasphemy,’ it’s good to see rational thinking can prevail at least somewhere in our wonderful world.

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    Denmark’s legislators have moved to abolish their archaic (300 years old) law- and not before time!

    It’s astounding that a modern democratic country hasn’t long since got rid of nonsense which decrees fines or imprisonment of up to four months for anyone who derides, ridicules or insults a legally-defined religion’s teaching or way of worshipping.

    Such an ‘offence’ is at most a question of good manners, not law.

    If you get all hot and bothered over some real or perceived slight, to yourself or your way of thinking, then you just need to grow up!

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    Hurt feelings? Just try being grown-up and control the tantrums!

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    And let’s face it, are not ‘teachings’ that call for killing others, just because they worship in a different way from you or me, not deserving of derision?

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    That’s nothing to do with God anyway, merely those who arrogate to themselves the right to tell us what He thinks.

    Most Danes presumably share my view that, as an omnipotent being, God Almighty can handle any insults cast in His direction, without requiring the assistance of either fallible human courts or cacaphonous creeps…

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    Barbaric Islamists in Jakarta, burning Ahok in effigy

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    …the latter surely exemplified by the hate-driven fanatics we saw all too often on the streets of Jakarta prior to the shocking, draconian verdict and sentence meted out to Ahok for daring publicly to ponder the meaning of an Islamic verse.

    The protesters, most of whom were men dressed in white Muslim attire, were heard yelling, “We want a Muslim governor,” “Burn Ahok!” and “Kafir!”   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/10/14/thousands-hard-liners-march-against-ahok.htm

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    And not just prior to the jailing of their intended victim, but after too, bigot brats with poisoned minds in Jakarta’s Kampung Melayu district.

    But even before the ink is dry on Denmark’s welcome reform, we hear voices suggesting dire consequences…

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    repealing the law could cause the terrorist threat level to be raised because jihadists will be able to exploit it.’ Repeal of Danish blasphemy law may have security consequences …

    That’s from a senior security official, who certainly ought to know better.

    Because, as was said by the Danish justice minister, Søren Pape Poulsen, the terrorist threat to Denmark is already so high that it would be difficult to raise it further unless there was a concrete terrorist attack.

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    Well said, sir!

    Jihadists don’t need excuses – they are at war with civilisation, with humanity, to be sure, and will wage that war regardless of any ‘blasphemy’ laws.

    We saw that right here in Jakarta, where a harsh ‘blasphemy’ obtains, only a week ago, when evil Islamists murdered three blameless police officers  – where?

    In Kampung Melayu!

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    Five dead, eleven wounded – the evil jihadist tally that black day

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    It is not enough, however, to erase ridiculous ‘blasphemy’ bans from the statute book.

    People who believe in free speech need to be protected by laws, and vigorous enforcement of those laws, against primitives who parade their blood-thirsty fanaticism through the streets.

    Free speech should not encompass savage incitement to murder people we disagree with, be it ordinary citizens engaged in peaceful ‘derision’ or harmless cartoonists.

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    Such people have no place in the modern world.

    If they cannot abandon their Dark Age mentality, they should be locked up until they are proven sincerely to have repented.

    But that’s expensive, and they are not worth the cost. Give them the option, indefinite internment, or instant deportation.

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