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  • ross1948 05:08 on July 28, 2022 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Establishment of Religion, freedom of religion, , ,   

    President Trump, Pointing The Way Ahead? 

    We can usually rely on President Trump for sensible comment on current affairs

    “The current educational system is so sick,” he said. “You can’t teach the Bible but you can teach children that America is evil and that men can get pregnant. …

    “You would not trust these people to babysit your children for 20 minutes.”  READ

    Yes, indeed!

    While it’s a given that all normal people, in any country, will approve of his wise words…

    …might we sooner or later see the Supreme Court take up some case that will undo the ridiculous ban on school prayer?

    We’ve written about this issue before, over a decade ago, in fact…

    hat imbecilic Supreme Court judgement perversely interpreted the constitutional ban on any Established Church, Anglican-style, as a wholesale repudiation of the Christianity inherent in the United States’ history… Christmas Coming, Grinches Grizzling – Scott Walker’s the Winner! 

    But back then, the SCOTUS justices weren’t a very promising lot.



    The current crop, or at least 5 out of 9 of them, seem a lot more prepared to stand up to the left-liberal elites..


    ‘…protesters with “Black Lives Matter” signs toss Bibles into the inferno….’  demonstrators exhibited their rage by burning Bibles and American flags.’

    Which Is More Hated By BLM? Their God Or Their Country? 

    …and rabid hate-freaks like those we have written about previously.

    Let’s wait and see.

  • ross1948 07:52 on April 2, 2021 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: freedom of religion, ,   

    On Good Friday, Remember Persecuted Christians 

    The beautiful English Church in downtown Jakarta is still closed, thanks to the Chinese Virus.

    So is the local Indonesian church round the corner from where I live.

    So Good Friday is not going to be a busy day for me!

    However, there are many decent Indonesian folk who have for YEARS not been free to worship in their churches.


    Happy Easter, GKI Yasmin – Solidarity At A Distance!

    I have written about their plight often.

  • ross1948 11:53 on March 26, 2021 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , freedom of religion,   

    C’mon, Brits! Help Fight Gaystapo Evil! 

    No need for comment, for ACTION is required. Please read this from C4M and take necessary steps…



    ….to fight the latest attempt to advance the vile gaystapo agenda.

    The Government is considering a ban on so-called conversion therapy. It wants to ban coercive pseudo-medical practices which claim “to turn gay people straight”.

    But LGBT activists want to go much further. They want LGBT theology to be imposed upon churches and faith communities using the criminal law. This would include teaching on marriage.

    If they get their way, the effects could be unpredictable. So while churches could continue to refuse to host same-sex weddings, they will face a legal minefield when it comes to explaining and applying this stance to their own congregations.

    Whether you have a faith or not, please take action today.

    Contact Liz Truss MP, the Minister for Women and Equalities, with your concerns now.


    Please use your own words, you will be much more effective that way.

    If you are a church minister, Christian or adherent of another faith please say so.

    Please say that a vaguely worded ‘conversion therapy’ ban could unintentionally criminalise beliefs about marriage.

    Some additional points are below.

    • Say that those who uphold traditional marriage risk being caught up in an over-broad ban.
    • Say that the belief that marriage is only between one man and one woman is still held by millions of people in the UK, including in ethnic minority groups. It is worthy of respect, not the threat of prosecution under a conversion therapy ban.
    • Say that a targeted approach is needed, dealing with coercive practices, not sweeping new powers which punish people who believe in marriage.
    • Say that activists have said they want the conversion therapy law to ban churches from teaching the Christian view on marriage.
    • Say that people who believe in marriage have often been unjustly punished for their beliefs, e.g. Ashers Bakery and Felix Ngole. The law currently protects them and this must not change.
    • Ask if the Government intends to hold a consultation on the scope of any ban and whether it intends to respect beliefs about traditional marriage in faith communities.
    If you would like to support us financially, you can do so using the button below.




  • ross1948 16:57 on January 4, 2021 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , freedom of religion,   

    Evil Erdolf Spits On Christianity! 

    Erdolf is a blot on the landscape.


    • erdogan

      The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.”

    His vicious sectarianism is infamous, expressed clearly in his own words.

    The latest manifestation of his Islamist bigotry has been revealed in the Turkish city of Konya, where plans have just been revealed…



    ….to ‘turn a fully renovated 19th-century Armenian church into a “humor art house” after barring worshippers from using the church for years….’

    Turkey to Turn Armenian Church into ‘Humor Art Center’

    Admittedly, there are probably not many Armenian congregants, since the barbarous Armenian Genocide just over 100 years ago…


    Released by the Armenian Genocide Museum in Yerevan, this 1915 picture shows soldiers surveying the skulls of victims in an Armenian village.

    ….when a gigantic, vicious pogrom was perpetrated against the Christian Armenian minority  in Turkey.

    We have written about that before, and noted there’s not a lot Western governments can do about Evil Erdolf, especially when at least one Western leader is up to her nasty neck in collabo commerce.

    Germany is in the process of selling and delivering the Type 214 submarines, despite the threat that this weapon could pose to “EU member-states such as Cyprus and Greece, but also in general threaten stability in the region.”..

    Berlin thus far is refusing to cancel the sale, perfectly satisfied that these submarines could easily be turned against Greece and Cyprus. Dendias once again calls on Germany to cancel submarine sale to Turkey

    That hag Mama Stasi will be retiring – Gott Sei Dank’ – this year, but will her successor have more principles, or patriotism?

    If so, sanctions against Erdolf sound like a good idea…

    What Islamist Erdogan Needs – A Cuba-Style Embargo! 

    ….as we have oft proposed, and obviously the expulsion of Turkey from NATO.

    But this brute has hordes of followers in countries where they shouldn’t be…




    ….like those fake-‘Germans’ who turned out to cheer the swine during his state visit, and their presence – not all Turkish emigres, but nasty fanatics like these…

    Deutsche Welle: ‘Many Turkish hearts in Germany beat for Erdogan 


    …is a running sore in terms of not only Germany but elsewhere in Europe.

    Mass deportation required


    • Theo 19:11 on January 4, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      The new Ottoman, and who in Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria has forgotten the old.
      Gates of Vienna held against them but now many enemy Turks are inside Vienna’s walls.


    • Jerry Jerman 20:33 on January 4, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      Merkel should be giving Greece guns, not selling to Erdogan.
      Also helping the Kurds as you say before.


  • ross1948 10:44 on December 7, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , charity sued, Free Church, freedom of religion, , , Shionaig McPherson   

    ‘Charity?’ But Christians Not Welcome? 

    I have in the past written about vicious anti-Christian intolerance here in Indonesia…

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    Christ’s Ascension Day – Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks 

    …but today, sadly, it seems our focus has to be on the land whence my ancestors migrated and where I spent many happy times.

    “Definitely not the Free Church, anyone but the Free Church, they don’t believe in same-sex marriage”.



    That’s the kind of hateful rant one might expect from some malevolent marxist, mincing along on one of those revolting so-called ‘gay’ so-called ‘pride’ marches….



    …cheered on by fellow maladjusts, their stubbly faces caked in make-up, snarling their hatred of decent people’s values.

    But not at all!

    It’s allegedly the outburst of intolerance heard from a woman named Shionaig Macpherson, chair of one of Scotland’s largest charities, believe it or not!

    She’s apparently a built-in part of the Scottish establishment…

    She is currently Chairman of the Royal Lyceum Theatre Company and a board member of Euan’s Guide, Futurelean Limited and the Dunedin Consort.

    “Past appointments, meanwhile, include Chairman of The National Trust for Scotland, The Prince’s Scottish Youth Business Trust, Scottish Council for Development and Industry, the Scottish Council Foundation and ITI Scotland Limited and Vice Chairman of the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo Limited. Ms Macpherson has also served on the Governing Bodies of the University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh College of Art, the Open University, The Royal Conservatoire of Scotland and Heriot Watt UniversitY..

    ….though frankly I’d never heard of her…



    ….so I dug around for more info, and it turns out she was chair of another charity, about ten years ago, and got a headline or two back then, as well!

    Call for Shonaig Macpherson to stand down immediately

    Fast forward to 2020, and here’s another part of the press release I have been sent.

    Stirling Free Church was renting premises owned by The Robertson Trust. But when Chairwoman Shonaig Macpherson discovered this, she was said to be “incandescent with anger…”



    If those quotes are accurate, Scotland needs to shame this shrill shrew.



    Good to hear that the Christians are fighting back against such bigotry – the church is now suing the multimillion-pound charitable trust.

    The freedom to defend true marriage needs protecting.


    Do read it all, and see what kind of persecution this small church is up against!

    • Tommy Giesler 14:00 on December 7, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      What kind of repulsive prejudice against Christian values would bring anyone to say what this Mcpherson woman’s reported as saying?
      It says little for today’s Scotland if freedom of religion is disrespected like this.
      Poor Braveheart must be turning in his grave!


  • ross1948 11:16 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , freedom of religion, mesjid, petisi kebebasan beragama, SKB, , ,   

    Petisi – Kebebasan Beragama! Freedom Of Religion! 

    Link petisi : https://www.change.org/p/joko-widodo-cabut-skb-tentang-pelarangan-ibadah-dan-renovasi-masjid-al-aqso-ahmadiyah-singaparna-tasi?

    Since this petition is for Indonesian citizens only, I am just giving you a quick explanatory quote from another media source…

    …the Al-Aqsa Mosque owned by the Ahmadiyah community in Tasikmalaya, West Java, was sealed off by the local government on the pretext of social distancing measures to prevent transmission of COVID-19….


    Please note -West Java has featured often in our blog!


    Ahmadi Koran burned by Islamists in Cisalada, 2011



    “This discriminatory action has been taken under the pretext of preventing greater resistance by local residents against Ahmadiyah group, not for public health reasons,” Usman told BenarNews.

    Bonar Tigor Naipospos of the Setara Institute, a human rights organization in Jakarta, urged the government to abolish blasphemy laws and revise the criminal code…



    It has long been a source of sadness to me, as someone who loves Indonesia, to watch this lovely country’s good name blighted by sectarian bigotry, against not only Ahmadis…

    February 6 – Nine Years Ago, But Cikeusik Pogrom Never Forgotten!

    ….but Christians too…

    …so I think this petition deserves to be circulated as widely as possible.

    1. Our support, solidarity and sympathy towards Al-Aqso Mosque, Tasikmalaya, who are experiencing problems with the government….

    2. Requesting immediate revocation of the Joint Decree of the Tasikmalaya Regent, Head of the District Prosecutor, regarding the Refusal of Mosque Renovations, and Worship Facilities as well as Congregational Da’wah Activities of Ahmadiyah Indonesia (JAI)

    3. Asking the relevant parties to take down banners in the area near Al Aqsa Mosque, located in Kp. Badakpaeh, Cipakat Village, Kec. Singaparna, Tasikmalaya Regency which contain the Joint Decree of the Minister of Religion, Attorney General, and Minister of Home Affairs of the Republic of Indonesia 2008…

    Konstitusi Undang-Undang 1945 menyatakan; Setiap orang bebas memeluk agama dan beribadah menurut agamanya, memilih pendidikan dan pengajaran, memilih pekerjaan, memilih kewarganegaraan, memilih tempat tinggal di wilayah negara dan meninggalkannya, serta berhak kembali.

    Setiap orang berhak atas kebebasan meyakini kepercayaan,menyatakan pikiran dan sikap, sesuai dengan hati nuraninya. Setiap orang berhak atas kebebasan berserikat, berkumpul, dan mengeluarkan pendapat. (Pasal 28 E ayat (1), (2), (3), UUD 1945). Negara berdasar atas Ketuhanan yang Maha Esa. Negara menjamin kemerdekaan tiap -tiap penduduk untuk memeluk agamanya masing-masing dan untuk beribadah menurut agamanya dan kepercayaannya itu. (Pasal 29 ayat (1), (2), UUD 1945 ).

    Kebebasan beragama yang dijamin konstitusi Undang-Undang Dasar 1945 berlaku bagi semua warga negara tidak terkecuali warga/anggota Jemaat Ahmadiyah (JAI) dan merupakan hak asasi manusia yang tidak dapat dikurangi (non derogable right) dalam keadaan apapun (Pasal 28I ayat (1), UUD 1945).

    Jemaat Ahmadiyah Indonesia adalah organisasi legal formal berbadan hukum, dengan SK Menteri Kehakiman RI No. JA, 5/23/13 Tgl.13-3-1953.
    Artinya, Jemaat Ahmadiyah Indonesia adalah organisasi yang mempunyai hak untuk hidup di seluruh wilayah Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia (NKRI), termasuk di Kabupaten Tasikmalaya….


    Link petisi : https://www.change.org/p/joko-widodo-cabut-skb-tentang-pelarangan-ibadah-dan-renovasi-masjid-al-aqso-ahmadiyah-singaparna-tasi?

    • Kezia 12:48 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I will try to find many people to sign.
      Ahmadis must be free to worship and to spread their faith as much as other Muslims an Christians and Buddhists too.


    • Jim Ex Jakarta 14:16 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I would have been disappointed in you if you had not written about the petition, Ross.
      What the Ahmadis have suffered over the years has been shocking.


      • JazPen 18:10 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Too true Jim.
        Ross has been defending their right to religious freedom for all those years.
        I hope that petition gathers momentum until those people can use their mosque again,


    • Santi 15:05 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I hope they get a million names to the petition!
      I wish President Jokowi will sign it too!


  • ross1948 09:02 on July 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: freedom of religion, , , Jaelene Hinkle, ,   

    Demand USA Soccer Embrace Diversity…Of Belief! 

    I had no idea that the bigots in American sport had done this to a decent young lady footballer. One doesn’t need to be religious to be appalled by this violation of religious liberty.



    If you’re not one of the decadent in-crowd, it seems, then you’re OUT!


    Fight the gaystapo war on diversity.


    Sign our petition to Christian player cut from U.S. women’s soccer team!

    Friday, July 12, 2019


    Jaelene Hinkle is a 26-year-old star for the North Carolina Courage professional soccer team and has been called the top women’s left defender in the nation. So why didn’t she have a place on the U.S. women’s national soccer team that just won the World Cup?

    Most likely, it was intolerance toward her strong faith in Christ.

    According to an article on washingtontimes.com, Jaelene turned down a call-up from the national team in 2017 for a pair of international games after learning that the players would be required to wear rainbow-themed jerseys in honor of Gay Pride Month. She said later that the uniform conflicted with her Christian faith.

    Sign our petition to Jaelene that recognizes and honors her obedience to Christ.

    “I just felt so convicted in my spirit that it wasn’t my job to wear this jersey,” she told “The 700 Club” in a May 2018 interview. “I gave myself three days to just seek and pray and determine what [God] was asking me to do in this situation.”

    That decision appeared to leave her blacklisted from ever playing on a national team. Her outspoken faith was first picked up on the LGBT’s anti-Christian radar soon after the Supreme Court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges legalizing gay marriage.

    This world may change, but Christ and His Word NEVER will,” Jaelene said on Instagram. “My heart is that as Christians we don’t begin to throw a tantrum over what has been brought into law today, but we become that much more loving.”

    While Jaelene was sharing the truth of God’s love, LGBT activists were becoming ruthless in their hate-filled  attacks.

    For example, SBNation sportswriter Kim McCauley called her a “vocal homophobe” while acknowledging that “there isn’t a better pure tactical fit available than Hinkle.”

    BuzzFeed reporter Molly Hensley-Clancy on Monday tweeted, “Let’s take a second to think about how Jaelene Hinkle might have missed out on winning a World Cup bc she is homophobic.”

    “It was very disappointing,” Jaelene said about missing out on national team opportunities by staying faithful to her beliefs. “And I think that’s where the peace trumps the disappointment, because I knew in my spirit I was doing the right thing. I knew I was being obedient. Just because you’re obedient doesn’t make it easy.”


    Sign our petition to Jaelene Hinkle, applauding her obedience to God’s word and her faithful trust in Jesus Christ.

    • Sara Simpson 12:53 on July 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      It’s terrible how these sports bodies bow to the gaystapo.
      What a shame for young Jaelene.
      I will sign and circulate the petition.


    • Vinnie F 14:13 on July 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      That’s just bad, bad, bad.
      They are a disgrace to the USA.


      • Chrissie Miles 16:35 on July 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Sara, Vinnie, I couldn’t agree more.
        The ‘gays’ are libertyphobic!
        As are the sport’s governing councils, if they let that happen.


    • Lily Jonaster 10:49 on July 14, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      That news turns me right off the ‘American’ women’s soccer team, as well as the people who sponsor it.
      I should say, turns me even more off.


  • ross1948 00:35 on May 30, 2019 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , freedom of religion, , ,   

    Enjoy Your Ascension Day – But Never Forget Bekasi! 

    It’s Ascension Day and here in Indonesia it’s a public holiday – with lots of religions, we get lots of holidays!


    Hasil gambar untuk ascension day greetings indonesia kenaikan


    But it’s important not to forget that, while Christians, Buddhists and Hindus are recognised religions here, and the decent Muslims among the majority creed respect their rights, there is also a viciously intolerant element, which showed its snarling ugly face a few years ago…

    Christ’s Ascension Day – Islamist Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks 

    Head-Scarfed Harpies Hurl Dung and Urine at Christians 

    Still There! Oppressed Christians Swelter In Jakarta! 

    …and Islamist intolerance is not merely a past phenomenon, as the Hindus of Bekasi  found out this month once again.

    Read all about that episode here… https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2019/05/07/plan-to-construct-hindu-temple-in-bekasi-met-with-protest.html

    So no matter your religion, or even if you have none, pray that President Jokowi, now re-elected, to the fury of fanatics…

    Anyone Up For ‘A Refreshing Jihad Tour?’ 

    ….will slap down the forces of darkness that prowl not only in Bekasi but throughout the archipelago.

    • Asep Kalibata 02:57 on May 30, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I am Muslim who think same like you do. It is wrong to stop people worship.
      The violent gang in Tambun Bekasi was wrong then against the Christians same like the gang against the Hindus this time.
      I am happy when you say that many good Muslim Indonesian people respect other religions and are not same like violent gangs.


    • Kezia 08:55 on May 30, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      It is important not to forget what happened in Tambun. Very few of the bad people were punished for their violence.


      • Santi 11:09 on May 30, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, Kezia. It is not good for Indonesia when the news goes around he world of fanatc gangs making trouble for worship.


  • ross1948 19:44 on November 3, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , freedom of religion, , , Shammi Haque   

    Not All Refugees Are Fake Refugees! 

    We all know that many, if not most, of the aliens imported by Merkel are unsuitable, to say the least, as residents of civilised European countries.

    Cologne Migrant Who Licked And Groped Girls Laughs As He Walks …

    They were all asylum seekers!” Told You So!

    German Girls Forced Into Shariah Dress-Code By Sex-Pest Syrian Ingrates

    They are ingrates, too…

    Crimmigrants Seize Italian Cop-Shop – Punishment? ‘Specialised African Cuisine!’ 

    …and arrogant.

    They are also not ‘refugees,’ as they prove again and again by their refusal to stay in safe countries…



    …ever eager to find more succulent tax-troughs like Britain’s or Germany’s or up further north in Scandinavia, especially to Sweden, which is such a spineless place that they don’t even deport those who rape their women and children.

    Crimmigrant Rape Gangs Get Green Light in Sweden

    But that’s not the whole story!


    Related image .
    Shammi Haque, blogger, Bangladesh

    “People in Bangladesh can’t say what’s on their mind. There is no freedom of speech at all and every day the situation is getting worse. I’m a social activist and blogger and my topics include religion.

    “Islamists don’t like this.

    “They already killed six bloggers – my friends – so I decided to leave the country. I want to return but I don’t know when and if it will be safe.”


    I’d say that this pretty young lady would qualify as a refugee by anyone’s standards.

    And I’d also suggest that she and others like her would be welcome in any Western country, an excellent exchange when governments get enough guts to start deporting ignorant savages like these…



    …who are clearly unfit to be part of any society where decency and democracy are esteemed.


    • Noreen Paterson 22:35 on November 3, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      We should be prepared to take her in if she wants to come here.
      As you annd others have said more than once, people like her can be a real benefit to countries they are given shelter in, because they can spread the word, from first-hand experience, of how sharia is a threat to every freedom we used to take for granted.
      Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, women’s rights to be treated as equal to men in the eyes of the law, the ideology the sharia gang carries with it wherever it goes is deadly ro Western civilization.


    • JazPen 22:51 on November 4, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I have heard you say that Western countries should accept the Ahmadis if they ask for asylum.
      I go along with that same as I go along with this.
      Indonesia is nowhere nearly as bad as Bangladesh but how long is that going to last?
      With the election next year, the vice-president candidates on both sides worry me a lot but I intend to hang in here.
      My Indonesian colleagues say they wish you would write more about Indonesia.
      I hear you are still here but most of the people I knew in my first ten years are gone now and most of the others are talking about going.
      Its a damn shame.


  • ross1948 22:00 on September 4, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , freedom of religion, ,   

    Starbucks Sucks! Blatant Sectarian Discrimination! 

    Those of us who believe in freedom of religion, as I do, believe the principle applies to adherents of any religion, Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist – whatever.
    The principle must equally apply to people who have the guts to convert into, or out of, any creed whatsoever.

    I don’t mean the sad individuals who change religion to kowtow to bigoted prospective in-laws.
    I’m talking about those who actually THINK about this life and what it’s all about. And what comes after this life, if anything.
    Some people even keep thinking and change back, or try another path to truth.

    Good on them. if God gives you a brain, use it!



    An honest apostate is to be admired, not abused.

    Hence my disgust yesterday when I read about Starbucks, a company I have no time for, for various reasons, and not simply because I think their coffee is over-rated.
    Their fanatical support for the redefinition of marriage was bad enough, but there was, too, their absurd appeasement in the famous case of two free-loaders who used a Starbucks branch as a place to hang out but did not wish to make a purchase, then played the weary race card when given the bum’s rush.

    Starbucks crawled on its corporate belly, shut out honest customers for a whole day in every one of the 51 states, subjecting staff to imbecilic ‘anti-discrimination’ garbage.
    Or as I noted in a previous post, should we maybe say ‘anti-police’ garbage?

    “The training materials focused a lot on police brutality, which had nothing to do with the incident that happened…”

    Starbucks‘ anti-bias training may serve up more harm than good

    …and the Far-Left big boss wants to run for President of the USA?

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    But now it’s reliably reported, with video to confirm the report, that in at least one Starbucks, a policy of vicious sectarian discrimination is in place, with inoffensive customers ejected because they were wearing – guess what?
    T-shirts that said –
    “I’m an Ex-Muslim, Ask Me Why?”


    Here’s part of the report, but use that link to watch the pompous oaf ordering them out AND whining about being filmed.

    The victims of Starbucks’religious inquisition were members of EXMNA, Ex-Muslims of North America, peaceful, law-abiding young apostates who had been‘handing out flyers and speaking with and interviewing attendees at the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)’s annual conference.’
    They were not in the coffee-shop to disturb other patrons,but simply to have a coffee.
    ‘Without warning, they were informed by staff that they must leave the establishment.

    “I was surprised. I was simply drinking my iced coffee and scrolling through my phone, and they told me I needed to leave, so I asked why”, says Lina an ex-Muslim Syrian woman who had traveled to the conference on behalf of EXMNA.
    “I was told that they are not allowing protestors at the property, I assured the woman that I was not a protestor. She then asked me if I was part of the event or a guest at the hotel. I was neither.
    “I was then told that even though I was a paying customer, I was not allowed to be on the premise as it was reserved for guests and event members for the weekend and that they will not be allowing anyone else on their private property.
    “However, I noticed the Starbucks was still open to the public and I didn’t see anyone else being asked to leave.”

    That’s a damn disgrace.
    Of course any vendor should have the right to refuse service to anyone whomsoever, but the issue here is not if they had the right, but why they chose to exercise it against these perfectly respectable and responsible young apostates.
    Any cafe or resto or shop should be proud and pleased to serve youngsters mature enough to make adult decisions about the great questions that we all must from time to time ponder.

    • Ken Kasic 22:48 on September 4, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Nobody is going to disagree with what you say on this but most of my conservative friends already boycott Starbucks.
      Maybe now my libertarian friends will now join the boycott.
      I hope their policy of letting bums sit around all day without buying anything will gradually drive all honest customers away and then they’d go bankrupt.
      We also need to step up the boycott of Nike.
      Are you writing about their latest stupdity?


    • Vanessa R 23:17 on September 4, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Compared to how ex-muslims are persecuted in savage Islamist countries, being ejected from a place that sells boring coffee is not such a terrible fate.
      But it is shocking.
      I never use any Starbucks, but beyond a boycott, are there not other ways to reduce profits?
      Some far-lefts caused big problems in a London restaurant by introducing cockroaches and other insects.
      That kind of tactic does not have to remain a monopoly of the left, does it?


    • Bart Barles 01:11 on September 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Boycott is a good idea but we conservatives already boycott.
      So I have been thinking about this.
      We should all go in there and demonstrate noisily and peacefully every day, at lunchtime or whenever Starbucks has its busiest time.
      When asked to leave we should leave peacefully.
      Very soon only the free-loaders and the dedicated left-wing will continue to go there at lunch-time because most people do not want to eat lunch while noisy protests go on.
      Starbucks may take out court orders against individuals to keep us out but if we do it in relays, only a dozen protesters at a time?
      That way we can keep the ruckus going for weeks.


    • Keith Milner 08:44 on September 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      What a totally rotten scene to watch.
      That man ordering them out is reaaly and truly ashamed by what he’s doing, the way he tries to make them turn off their camera.
      Why shouldnt they show their beliefs on their t-shirts? What can people not say on t-shirts?
      I see plenty of crazies wearing Che Guevara t-shirts. That is offensive.
      Would Starbucks ban them too?


    • orion 22:08 on September 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I must agree that Starbucks coffee is totally insipid. The first time I drank some, I returned the cup as I thought there was something wrong with the drink. So they gave me another one which tasted just as bad. I did not try again. I love coffee but it must not taste like dishwasher! As to their political statement, they must make more of them as they pee off more and more people. The worse it gets, the better!


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