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  • ross1948 11:06 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 'celebrities turning to Islam', , , , , , Gramedia's book-burning, , , music-haters   

    Jakarta Post Equates Islam With Islamist Fanaticism! 

    A prominent headline in the Jakarta Post this week briefly gladdened my heart…

    Apology from Jakarta Post




    But only briefly.

    I had hoped their Editor, Endy, had finally decided to say sorry for the JP’s failure to condemn the Hitlerian book-burning committed a couple of years ago by his newspaper’s parent company, Gramedia, at the behest of Islamist fanatics.

    Grovelling Gramedia’s BookBurning Bonanza – Appeasing Fanatics 

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    But no, it was just that the JP was apologising for its sloppy reporting 0f the recent executions.Apology from Jakarta Post .

    Now I wake up this sunny Saturday and wonder if we’ll see another apology soon for THIS indefensible headline.


    More celebrities, rock stars turn to Islam


    This alarming news had me worried.


    • ………..
    • Was Mick Jagger about to undertake a pilgrimage to Mecca – I’d much prefer him to bring the Stones to Jakarta so I could enjoy their brilliant music once again.

    Was, perhaps, k d lang, the Canadian lesbian, about to cover her glorious beauty (!) with a burka?


    Not so!

    In fact the JP report is not, as far as I can see, about apostasy at all.




    None of the celeb singers etc. mentioned ( I may be wrong but am open to correction) are Christian or Hindu or Buddhist. It seems that the people concerned are by no means ‘converts.’

    On the contrary.

    Up till recently, they have, apparently, been like the Indonesian Muslims I mingle with every day, nice, normal people who say their prayers but don’t shove their religion down other folks’ throats.

    What the JP means by ‘turning to Islam’ is that they have endorsed the most extreme and fanatical outlooks, most notably (for stars of the music industry) 

    Kang Ucay, the former lead singer of Bandung-based pop-punk band Rockcalled et Rockers, who now goes by the name of Noor Al Kautsar, serves as the coordinator for the Bandung chapter of Indonesia Tanpa JIL (Indonesia Without JIL). Indonesia Tanpa JIL is a conservative Islamist movement opposed to the liberal Islam, promoted in Indonesia by Jaringan Islam Liberal (Liberal Islam Network)  http://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2016/05/27/more-celebrities-rock-stars-turn-to-islam.html

    For ‘conservative,’ please read radical. Conservatism means attachment to traditional values, which in Indonesia are distinguished by an easy-going tolerance among creeds.

    In fact, there’s much misuse of the term Islamisation here, when what’s meant is Arabisation. Though to be fair to Arabs, many of them enjoy music, unlike another gaggle of celebs cited by the JP, viz.

    Some other musicians who have decided to lay down their instruments recently set up a movement and identified themselves as Al Ghuroba, or The Strangers. These former musicians’ primary campaign theme is the prohibition of music.


    Of course, we have often covered kill-joy nonsense, most often from Aceh, the only Indonesian province with sharia law…

    ‘Immoral Activities – Sitting in Coffee Shops Laughing and Talking…’ 



    Aceh’s Mad Mullah – ‘Dancing is EVIL – It Involves Body Movements!’ 


    …but also from other parts of the archipelago…

    Islamist Kill-Joys, Buoyed by Gaga Ban, Now Turn On Indonesian Stars 

    However, outwith the ranks of frothing fanatics like that mullah, Indonesians, Muslim or not, DELIGHT in music, especially dangdut, this country’s most beloved genre.

    I append one example of the many popular practitioners. She’s named Cynthiara Alona. And she’s Aceh-born!



    She’s a great dangdut singer – since foreign readers know little or nothing of that music, I’ve searched around and got you a link to one of her performances.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsHfGZPh624

    Dangdut tv shows command audiences of millions, and, in a 90% Muslim country, most of them are likely to be Muslims.

    The Jakarta Post headline is surely a slur on all those who adore their music and see no inconsistency with adherence to their faith.

    Why should a handful of fanaticised ‘celebrities’ opting for outlandish extremes be said to be ‘turning to Islam?’

    The JP should issue another of its rare apologies!

    I’m of course NOT Muslim – as regular readers will have long since guessed! – but my final quote comes from a prominent Muslim who ought to know what he’s talking about.

    Syafiq Hasyim of the State Islamic University (UIN) Syarief Hidayatullah said that celebrities’ newfound piety, especially those who chose to become preachers, may be motivated by pragmatism.      

    “There are two types of piety, exclusive and inclusive and the latter is always better. But I suspect that for some of those preachers, they have financial motivations,” Syafiq said.    


    • JazPen 11:32 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      I thought you’d get onto this one, Ross.
      I take strong exception to that Jakarta Post headline but since Gramedia is famous for supporting those fanatics in book-burning, I cant be very surprised if they think growing those awful long beards and hating music is ‘turning to Islam.’ Pity whoever wrote that article didnt put his name to it.

      I dont know a single Indonesian Muslim who hates music the way these former musicians do.

      Keep reminding us about the book-burning episode please.
      Its important more and more people overseas understand what kind of people run that media empire.


    • M K Subrawan 11:48 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      We who are Muslim and like music, the Jakarta Post thinks we have not turned to Islam because we are not hating music and not grow beard?
      It is very truly an insult from the Jakarta Post to million of Indonesia people


    • Slamet 11:54 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Mister Ross, you write many things that are good here but sometime I think you are not so clever if you beleive that oneday the Jakarta Post will say that what Gramedia did to burn the books is bad.
      I sometime think my boss is stupid and even bad but i do not say this because he pays my salary each month and I must look after my family
      Jakarta Post do not have bravery to tell what they think about Gramedia because Gramedia is Jakarta Post big boss. Do not hope for that editor to do what he should do. He too has family to look after.


    • N S in Sleman 12:04 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      I hate the Jakarta Post, they always make me angry to read and now I tell my other Muslim friends what they say about this turning to Islam, like Islam is all things same like Arab Saudi.
      All of us we are children of Indonesia not Arab Saudi and we like dangdut and jazz and some like reggae. That is not to be less Muslim than the selebriti that hates music and fun.
      You also some days writing things make me not so happy but you today do good job in this.


    • Lomax 12:46 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Ross, I read your blog a lot and I know your heart is in the right place but –

      you have lived there so long you have let your judgment get clouded.

      It doesn’t matter how much ‘ordinary Muslims’ don’t care for this fanatic music-hating crowd, they aren’t going to do much of anything to put a stop to what you call ‘arabisation.’

      I have seen you time after time give us news of violent intolerant Islamists and some of the people will raise their voices against it but the government and the police hardly ever make any moves to get rid of the problem.
      I think if you stay in Indonesia much longer, you will see it become an Islamic republic, shariah everywhere.

      What will you do then, Ross?

      . .


    • Farida 13:08 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      This is Wahabism not Indonesian Islam. We do not like this and do not like Jakarta Post saying this is all about these singers turning to Islam. They to me are turning away from the ways of Indonesia, Muslim or all religion here..
      Jakarta Post is most like American newspaper, not Indonesian newspaper and always not thinking like usual Indonesian people who like music and do not like to burn books.
      My friends show me this your blog so I send you my agreement.
      I wish you can blog in bahasa Indonesia because I can say many more things about all this but thank you and I am in support yours sincerely.Farida .
      , .


    • Graeme J 16:59 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Interesting but sad reading.
      Why do these poor souls get into this dark mindset?
      In the West, we see so many musicians turning to drugs, now here we see so many musicians turning to this, which as you show us, isn’t Islam as understood by most Indonesian Muslims.
      Music must be a bad way of life if it drives people into these kinds of behavior.


    • Dipo Depok 19:06 on July 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Better if you do not interfere with what is not your business in another country. I read you before writing against Depok, eventhough Depok is a good Islamic city.
      The Muslims will do what we must do to make Indonesia a cleaner and holier country.
      If you do not like what you hear and see, go to a heathen country to see naked women and hear your music.
      No real Muslim will want to have these things in Indonesia.


    • Intan 14:16 on August 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Dipo -do not speak for Muslim people only for the wahabis and salafis fanatic and there are so many in Depok.
      Good Indonesia Muslim people better to be more together with good Indonesia non-Muslim people than to be like Depok fanatic.


  • ross1948 09:54 on April 2, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: chattering classes, , , , , Gramedia's book-burning, , , , , , , , , , , , , website ban   

    Anti-Social Media – Harmless Student ‘Guilty,’ But Islamist Bigot Sites Re-Open! 

    So the majesty of the law unfolds before our eyes, and Florence, the young student who dared use ‘social media’ to criticise the City of Jogja, gets jail-time – suspended, apparently…   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/04/01/facebook-path-users-sentenced.html


    Because the Indonesian Government’s move to shut-down fanatic Islamist sites that spew out jihadist poison has been U-turned

    Jakarta – Fanatics Fume at Shut-Down of Sectarian Websites! 

    …after an ‘outcry!’- http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/04/01/govt-unblocks-radical-websites.htm

    Funny, that.

    You’d think you might hear an ‘outcry‘ if you were out on the streets of the capital, as I have been, often, in recent days, but nary a word. You’d think you might see tense faces, twitching with indignation – nope!


    Well, not counting the crowd at Grogol Halte Busway, waiting for a bus to Lebak Bulus, half an hour or near enough, whilst in that space of time, about seven buses to Kalideres came by, plus two empty vehicles which declined to stop and pick up the disgusted would-be passengers.  

    Of course the IslamoNazi FPI was outraged, at the abortive ban. Their shrilling must be the bane of their neighbours’ lives, which ever part of town they live in. Amazingly, the FPI site was not on the list of those to be dealt with. 


    • But as in the West, it’s not just the cacaphonous sectarian hate-mongers who let rip when governments take concrete action against jihadist jerks.

    It’s the entire left-lib establishment!

    Needless to say, the Jakarta Globe editorial collective is in the forefront, though they say they want a panel to monitor such action, with ‘moderate’ Muslims on it.

    fatwa mui sholeh

    That will presumably exclude anyone connected with the state-sponsored ‘scholars’ of the MUI.

    Islamist ‘Scholars’ – “Don’t Complain if You’re Attacked!” 

    But even the JG recognises that the government’s flip-flop in this case will only send the wrong signal and strengthen radical movements, because they now know they ride the public opinion…  http://thejakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/opinion/editorial-unilateral-website-ban-wrong-move/

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    •  Yes, the sorry surrender will strengthen the forces of darkness here, but let’s get real..… the real public doesn’t give a monkey’s. In my local warteg, where lots of Indonesians were stopping by for lunch on my previous visits, not ONE person even mentioned it.

    It’s ONLY the chattering classes ( apart from the fanatics) who, appropriately, give a monkey’s!

    • baboons

    Jakarta’s (and London’s and Washington’s and Canberra’s ) chattering classes


    But at least the JG has an editorial, frothing about freedom of expression. The Jakarta Post, which I’ve just also been perusing, has not, so far as I can see, given vent to an editorial stance.

    Understandable, given how their own parent company, Gramedia, is still well-remembered for its own capitulation to the Islamist intolerance of the MUI and the FPI.

    The Jakarta Post’s tame hacks have never yet condemned that infamous book-burning.


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    Grovelling Gramedia’s BookBurning Bonanza – Appeasing Fanatics 


    How could they dare publish any hypocritical mouthings on free expression today?

  • ross1948 00:07 on March 7, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Gramedia's book-burning, Islamic Book Store, , , lakemba, Mansoor Abdul Hakim, , , , women's inferiority   

    Ever Hear of the Moron Mansoor Abdul Hakim? 

    A midnight thought on the credibility of books, not novels but ostensibly non-fiction books written by drooling cretins.


    One such cretin is apparently Mansoor Abdul Hakim.

    Here’s an extract from his scholarly tome “Women Who Deserve to go to Hell.”


    • sexism
    • ——————–
    • “Men’s perfection is because of various reasons: intelligence, religion, etc,” Hakim explains. “At most, four women have this perfection.”

    No, it’s not a joke book, but sold as serious reading in the Islamic Bookstore…

    …in SYDNEY.


    The Islamic Bookstore in Haldon Street, Lakemba / Picture: Adam Taylor


    Hakim is a lame-brained moron indeed, but laughable.

    However, the place also gets away with retailing hate literature.

    Another book there contains the following assertion –    “No one can deny the fact that the Jews are the worst kind of barbarian killers the world has ever known!!!

    That’s from ‘History of the Jews!’ These books were reportedly on sale there in the second half of last year. Have the police moved in and closed down this hate-sty?

    No, because it was in the news earlier this years, when we heard that the book store owners want political leaders to do more to promote harmony with the Islamic community. – 

    Might be easier if they cleaned up the filth on their shelves!

    Or have the police at least removed the hate-literature made available by the sectarian management? 

    I got my info on this, and much else, from the Aussie media –        … http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/last-drinks-in-lakemba-tim-blair-takes-a-look-inside-sydneys-muslim-land/ – read the whole article!

    It exerts a kind of horrid fascination and reminds me of what Nigel Farage had to say about his trip on British public transport, on which he hardly heard a word of English.

    Lakemba may be only 30 minutes from the centre of Sydney, yet it is remarkably distinct from the rest of the city. You can walk the length of crowded Haldon St and not hear a single phrase in English. On this main shopping strip the ethnic mix seems similar to what you’d find in any Arabic city.

    How many similar comments might be heard in countries in Europe too? 

    I find nothing at all disagreeable about shopping amidst a throng who speak another language. But I live in Indonesia. I adapt, as any civilised person should. No problem – I like Indonesia, even though one comes across Nazi-style elements here too, as we saw when the Jakarta Post’s parent company, Gramedia, revelled in a Hitlerian book-burning. 

    Grovelling Gramedia’s BookBurning Bonanza – Appeasing Fanatics 

    • burning books Gramedia’s Hitlerite book-burning
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    Yet most people here are pleasant and civil. Three Cheers for Jakarta, Where People Are Normal and Nice! 

    Lakemba, by way of contrast, sounds a hellish place.


    The Sydney story was occasioned by the closure of the Lakemba Hotel, one of those typical old-fashioned watering holes that are unique to Australia.

    Now it is no more.


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    • ————————-
    • I dare say it’s not the only good thing destroyed by multiculturalism, that insane policy that permits the importation of primitives who refuse to adapt. But sad, nevertheless….
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