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  • ross1948 11:40 pm on February 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply
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    Today’s International Day of Zero Tolerance For FGM! 


    Bedtime in Jakarta, but first, just a late reminder of how backward some people can be.

     

     

    Clitoral Clip? No, ‘Scraping’ Suffices! TELL Us, Islamist ‘Scholars!’ WHY Do It? 

    “Circumcision hopefully will make her less amorous…” Islamist Ignorance Targets Tots 

     

    Women Fight ‘Scholar’-Blessed FGM In Indonesia! 

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  • ross1948 4:50 am on February 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply
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    Pancasila? Seven Years Post-Cikeusik, Ahmadis Still Suffer 


    It was on February 6th, 2011, not so very far from Jakarta, that the infamous Cikeusik Pogrom occurred, three innocent Ahmadis….

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    Watch the pigs at their bloody work on this link..   http://www.liveleak.com/view.

    …savagely bludgeoned to death by a mob of cowardly Islamist fanatics.

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

    We lament this atrocity every year and remind all prepared to listen that no justice has yet been done, no charges of murder brought against the swine responsible.

    But the persecution of, the denial of religious liberty to, this peaceful and decent community continues today.

    It’s never stopped.

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    Just put ‘Ahmadis’ into our search box over there to the right and you can see the endless saga of vicious sectarianism that afflicts them.

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    Just a week or so ago, just a few miles from where I live, just across the city limits that separate Jakarta from Tangerang in the Province of Banten, Islamist bigotry reared its ugly head,

    I quote from the local newspaper.

    Pemuda Pancasila (PAP) Ciputat, accompanied residents and a number of community leaders to reject the construction of the Ahmadiyah Jemaah Mosque in Ciputat,  South Tangerang, on Saturday (20/01/2018)

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    Dampingi Warga Serua Indah, Pemuda Pancasila Tolak Pembangunan Masjid Jemaah Ahmadiyah

    Their rejection of the Ahmadiyah Mosque was also demonstrated by the installation of banners at the entrance of the empty land.

    Needless to say, the notorious thug-gang, the Islamic Defenders Front (FPI) was reportedly present. But that’s par for the course whenever intolerance is in the air.

    FPI in West Java – ‘Let’s Burn Out the Orphans!’ 

     

    Eager to kill!

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    IslamoNazi Gauleiter – “Women Already Have Limitations, Let Alone Non-Muslims!” 

    Again, search ‘FPI’ and you’ll see what we mean.

    It was the presence of the Pemuda Pancasila that caught my attention more than anything else. 

    Pemuda simply means Youth, but Pancasila is Indonesia’s national ideology, a key tenet of which is pluralism, respect for all Indonesians’ right to worship Almighty God.

    Except it seems, if they upset the so-called ‘scholars’ of the MUI, the Indonesian Scholars Council, whose fatwas are sometimes just laughable…

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    …but not always.

    The bigoted fatwa they unleashed some years ago against the Ahmadis has been invoked by fanatics over and over to stomp their right to worship, often by wicked, violent means.

    So an outfit using the word Pancasila ought to be defending religious liberty, you’d think. Instead, astonishingly, the PP spokesman at the scene declared that –

    ” Then the basis of our rejection was quite clear, that there is no last Prophet other than the Prophet Muhammad SAW, “said Abdul Aziz.

    Another protester told the media –

    “So in addition to the rejection of the construction of the mosque, we also reject the Ahmadiyah congregation…”.

    http://www.suaradewan.com/dampingi-warga-serua-indah-pemuda-pancasila-tolak-pembangunan-masjid-jemaah-ahmadiyah/#

    So the objection to the proposed Ahmadi mosque is NOT based on anything that you or I would deem planning grounds, no access problems, no infrastructure problems, no…

    It’s purely because the peaceful minority holds views at variance with Islamist dogma. Very sad, that seven years after the Cikeusik Pogrom, there’s no sign of any mind-set revolution in Tangerang, nor in many other places…

    “Mohon Ma’af?” Blasphemous Brutes Vandalise Depok Mosque! 

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    In Squalid Internal Exile, Lombok Ahmadis Denied Voting Rights 

    …nor of any moves by the Government to quash the grotesque discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree which has made the Ahmadis second class citizens, and in some cases refugees, in their own country, of which they are loyal and law-abiding citizens.

    PS – here’s a list of examples of oppression which we reproduced last year –In Jakarta, Persecuted Ahmadis Seek Justice!  – there have been other incidents since then.

    1. Sealing Al Furqon Mosque, Kersamaju, conducted by Satpol PP on March 31, 2015.

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    NB –The Satpol PP are the civic militia, controlled by local governments throughout Indonesia

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    2. Sealing Al Hidayah Mosque, Depok conducted by a group of people on March 19, 2011. It was repeated in February 2017 conducted by the Head of Satpol PP Pemkot Depok.

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    3. The burning and sealing of Masjid Al Furqon, Parakansalak, Sukabumi by mobs on April 28, 2008. After that Satpol PP Sukabumi sealed the mosque on July 26, 2016.

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    SatPol PP 

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    4. Damage to Al Kautsar Mosque, Kendal, Central Java in May 2016.

    5. Prohibition of the use of the mosque An Nashr, Pekanbaru on October 12, 2010. The ban was in line with the letter of Mayor of Pekanbaru to Ahmadiyah congregation to stop their activities.

    6. Damage to Cipeuyeum Mosque on March 13, 2011.

    7. Termination of mosque construction in Kunto Darussalam pasda April 2017.

    8. Break-up of Al Misbah Mosque, New Jatibening, Bekasi on 14 November 2011.

    9. The burning of the Cisalada Mosque on October 1, 2010 by a group of people.

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    Ahmadi Koran, burned in a major sectarian arson attack in Cisalada

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    10. Sealing Baitul Rahim Mosque, Singaparna on 12 April 2012 night.

    11. Rejection of the issuance of e-ID card 1,400 people of Manislor Village, Kuningan in 2012.

    12. Rejection of the registration of marriage certificate at Tanjung Pinang Religious Court on April 16, 2015.

    13. The destruction of Masjid Mahmud, Singaparna on April 15, 2010 noon

    14. Damage to mosques and houses of Ahmadiyah members in Ciaruteun, Bogor on March 11, 2011. A total of 7 families of Ahmadiyah refugees.

    15. Case of expulsion and destruction of houses of members of Ahmadiyah Lombok, NTB.

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    Anti-Ahmadi sectarian arson in Lombok

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    If you want more info on some of these cases, you can use our Search box, entering Lombok, Cisalada, or just Ahmadiyah and see the extent of the evil perpetrated against them.

    I wish them the best of luck in their fight against oppression!

     

     
    • JazPen 8:08 am on February 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Good to catch sight of the classic Ross Style again.

    • bjc70 10:10 am on February 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Just terrible

    • Kezia 2:45 pm on February 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you, Ross, for telling us what must be told about this injustice.

    • Santi 3:00 pm on February 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      It is always good when you write about our country and I like to read this very much.
      You do not write so much any more about Indonesia but I wish you will again.

      • Rawel 12:19 pm on February 8, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        I think same like you Santi but my english no good.
        Ross is good friend for Indonesia

    • Euis 6:21 pm on February 6, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      It is so.
      President Jokowi will soon face election again.
      Maybe he will show us before that what his mental revolution means.

  • ross1948 8:37 am on January 27, 2018 Permalink | Reply
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    Thank You, Indonesia! 


    This week saw the anniversaries of my departure from The Old Country ( 23rd January) and my arrival in Jakarta (24th)

    Hence a two-day – or rather two-nights – celebration.

    So many years, hard to believe, so much of that first week so vivid in my memory…

    ….yet so eventful ever since, almost a reincarnation, or (paradoxically, given the whammy hangovers that lasted through Friday arvo) rejuvenation!

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    So this morning, just a word of thanks.

     
    • Jim in Jakarta 1:47 pm on January 27, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      You have lasted well, Ross.
      Keep enjoying Indonesia while we still can.

    • Santi 5:07 pm on January 27, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      You’re welcome Ross, we are happy you love our country.
      We all hope you will be here for another 100 years. (hehehe!)

    • Kezia 11:56 am on January 28, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      So glad you came, Ross.
      Please never leave.

    • Astuti 6:07 pm on January 28, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      You are very welcome Ross. I am pleased for you to be happy in our beautiful country and for how you write so much about us.
      Please write more because we have many problems with the bad people who want to make us like Arab Saudi

  • ross1948 6:53 am on January 2, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Indonesia, , , , Totok Suprayitno   

    In Jakarta As In UK, School Children Fed Propaganda! 


    Indoctrination via the printed word is nothing new, and attempts to brain-wash pupils is not unique to Indonesia.

     

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    We have seen the shameful treason-mentality of many British teachers who eagerly allow Europhiliac filth into their class-rooms.

    Breaking News! School Brainwash Exposed By GUARDIAN? 

    But the Jakarta Globe report at year’s end shows that children here are in line for some wholesale indoctrination too.

    The Education Ministry said the error can serve as a “good opportunity” to educate members of the public, especially young students, on the issue of Palestinian independence.

    http://jakartaglobe.id/news/govt-to-revise-references-to-jerusalem-as-israels-capital-in-school-textbooks/

    For no obvious reason, Indonesia supports those who want to put the boot into Israel.

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    Caliphascist Hizbut Tahrir wants ‘Israel wiped Off the World Map!’

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    • I should say no rational reason, because it’s obvious that sectarian motives are at work.

    • However, let’s hear what Totok Suprayitno, from the Education Ministry, has to say.

    • “This will not just be about changing Jerusalem to Tel Aviv, but it will also be an effort to educate the people and tell the youth about the origin of the dispute,” Totok said.

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    Hasil gambar untuk Totok Suprayitno

    He added that the revision will also contain an explanation and brief historical background of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    Since the problem arises from Islamic aggression 1000 plus years ago, any ‘brief’ coverage is bound to fall short.

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    It’s historical fact that the Crusades were Wars of Liberation, as we have explained before, to roll back the Islamic imperialism depicted below.

    Erdolf’s Anti-Anzac Rants? Nothing Wrong With Crusaders! 

    Just look at the map of caliphate expansion.

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    But too many people here seem oblivious to the outrageous way caliphs and generals warred down resistance and over-saw the coercion of the population into ‘conversion’ from the religions they had previously been free to follow.

    Saladin was no doubt a personally brave leader, but whatever his interest in religious freedom, his successors had less.

    Christians and Jews and pagans did continue to live in Occupied Palestine, but in dwindling numbers as Islamisation proceeded.

    That’s why it’s hard to listen to all the rot about ‘Occupied’ territory there today.

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    Terrorism is terrorism, anywhere

    • Almost as hard as listening to the whining gits who complain when Israeli security forces retaliate against masked Palestinian hoodlums hurling lethal weapons.

    • One hopes Pak Totok will see to it that the ‘revised’ books give kids a balanced view, but I am not optimistic.

     

     
    • Kezia 9:32 am on January 2, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I think it is alright to teach about this subject if the teaching will give both sides of the argument.
      However I do not beleive many of the teachers will because they are bias to the Palestine side and probably very uneducated on the other side of history themselves.

    • Santi 10:55 am on January 2, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Good idea to have school debating same like we did, then different team must learn different poit of view. If teachers cab be fair, it will eduacate childen.

  • ross1948 11:00 am on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    So In West Java, Religious Liberty Is Now Conditional? 


    A few days ago we looked at the victims of sectarian injustice here in Indonesia, not all of them, by any means, but two congregations often covered in our blog, GKI Yasmin and HKBP Filadelfia.

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    Barred by brutal ignoramuses in Bogor and evil savages in Bekasi, two cities in the Province of West Java…

    Christ’s Ascension Day – Islamist Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks 

    Head-Scarfed Harpies Hurl Dung and Urine at Christians 

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    …from their churches, they have worshipped on the street in Jakarta, across the road from the State Palace, in searing heat some days, in bucketing rain on others….

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    The GKI people took their case all the way to the Supreme Court – and won!

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    But President Jokowi hasn’t ordered his police to enforce that judicial decree, so the oppression goes on.

    Incidentally, a seat is always left reserved for the President on that pavement, by Christians who have heard his frequent boasts of Indonesia’s pluralism.

    I have attended the services from time to time but Jokowi has never yet strolled the hundred yards from his palace to recognise their respectful loyalty.

    Now, however, headlines in local media suggest light at the end of the tunnel of the torment.

    Bima Arya And GKI Yasmin Agree to Build a Mosque next to the Church 

    Bima Arya is Mayor of Bogor, touted as a ‘moderate’ when he replaced a rabid Islamist a couple of years ago, and many (me too!) innocently assumed he’d do the decent thing and remedy the injustices.

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    But instead he declined to act, and – as in our linked story above – ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’  – he even stooped to denying the congregation’s existence, despite the fact we could all see them suffer on the street every second Sunday.

    That first Christmas after Bima took over, his local goon-squad –  aka ‘civic militia,’ the SatPol PP –  showed their true colours, as one Christian on the scene reported – “We were pushed, cursed with foul language, and threatened,” he said. http://www.tempo.co/read/news/2014/12/25/214630883/Natal-Jemaat-GKI-Yasmin-Diganggu-Satpol-PP

    Yet suddenly that mean mayor’s agreeing with his goons’ erstwhile victims, and freedom of religion may be restored in his benighted city?

    I’ll believe it when I see it!

    And even were it to come to pass, according to the report this week, it would be CONDITIONAL liberty  –


    http://nusantara.rmol.co/read/2017/12/25/319646/Bima-Arya-Dan-GKI-Yasmin-Setuju-Bangun-Masjid-Bersebelahan-Gereja-

    –  the congregation’s clear constitutional right to use their own church only tolerated if a mosque is constructed next door.

    What a mockery!

    As to HKBP, no news at all.

    But that’s what I have long expected from Bekasi, a place infamous for its intolerance.

    Hasil gambar untuk santa clara bekasi maret 2017

    Bekasi intellectuals articulate deep philosophical objections to religious liberty

    What Vexes Most – Sectarian Bullies, Jakarta Post or Bekasi Cops?

    Cops Stop West Java Worship, Appease Islamist Louts 

    Bekasi’s Islamist Regime – ‘We Won’t Allow Religious Liberty If Bigot Thugs Object!’ 

    West Java Police v Pastor – Death-Threat Victim Charged with ‘Assault’ on Islamist! 

    Bekasi Bigots V Religious Liberty, Again! 

    Christians Abused by Islamist Mob, Cops Fail to Enforce the Law 

    Islamists Lower Than Snakes’ Bellies – ‘Bury Your Own Dead If You Approve a Church!’ 

     
    • Kezia 2:15 pm on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I am back to work again, Ross and I see you are still on holidays but still blogging.
      Busy but happy I think you are happy only when you are busy!
      It is very awful to be in Bekasi if you are in a minority religion. Bogor too,, with so many mosques so why need to build another beside the church.
      I better not to say what I think about that Mayor there..,

  • ross1948 4:40 am on December 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    ‘Nationalism’s The Basis For Advancement….’ 


    Imagine if any European leader had spoken those glorious words above!

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    Every Sorosoid leech in the subversive NGO network would have fast begun spouting vitriol at the patriotic speaker for being ‘discriminatory,’ aka putting one’s own people first.

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    Ephialtes The Traitor, aka Guterres, in his UN lair, would have deplored such heresy.

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    Liar Juncker would have denounced the audacity of whoever committed the heinous sin called love of country.  Jean-Claude Juncker: “Nationalism is poison”

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    As would Merkel’s Muppet Macron

    Macron: Europe is too slow, blind to dangers of nationalism

    But then you can’t imagine it, can you?

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    Not one of them puts the nation first!

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    It’s impossible to think of  Merkel or Macron or May, even for a fleeting moment, issuing such a clarion call to patriots in their countries.

    Or rather they might, but everyone would know it was an exercise in dissimulation.

    And as for Canada’s unspeakable Justin Turdo, he has pronounced ( proudly, to make matters worse!) the death of his own country’s national identity.

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    Canada’s Turdo – national pride out, ‘gay’ pride in

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    “There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada. There are shared values…those qualities are what make us the first postnational state.” 

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11542/multiculturalists


    • So all credit to Indonesia’s President Jokowi, who this past weekend used those very words that constitute our headline today.

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    “For me, nationalism is the basis for the advancement of this nation,” said Jokowi…

    Bravo!

    And nationalism should be the path for the advancement of every nation! Jokowi’s welcome words should, and will, resonate with the overwhelming majority of Indonesians, not just for young people to hear and applaud.

    Yet in the Western world, such sentiments are anathema to large swathes of the population…

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    …especially among the so-called ‘millennials,’ who exhibit symptoms of a sort of degenerative spiritual disease, and exhibit them very publicly, like the repulsive creatures in that photo above.

    Oh, and before anybody draws my attention to his use of the word ‘diversity,’ please note it has a somewhat different connotation here from the West.

    Indonesia, for those not familiar with this vast country, is diverse, and multicultural, BUT NOT, as in many European lands, due to heedless importation of hordes of alien ingrates.

    Here there have been, for many centuries, Balinese in Bali, Javanese and Sudanese on the island of Java, Bataks and others in Sumatra…

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     …and many other ethnic groups on other islands, each with their own culture and language, who usually manage to get along reasonably well.

    That’s the diversity Jokowi meant, I’m sure!

    Indonesia is not perfect, and there’s work to be done to stem the tide of Islamist intolerance – and, one hopes, roll it back.

    But credit where credit is due.

    A national leader who grasps the virtues of nationalism would gladden the hearts of millions of patriots in the Western world, where, outside the USA, they’re in sadly short supply.

     
    • Indrawati 10:18 am on December 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      President Jokowi is good to say we need nationalism. With no nationalism we would not be free in any way.
      It is very strange so many leaders of Europe do not want the country they lead to be free and call nationalism poison.
      The Junkcer is like a man who reads no history. but I never hear of luxembourg before so it is not a very important country I think.

  • ross1948 9:30 am on November 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Religious Liberty – Indonesia Exposed! 


    These boys converted to Islam just a few months ago.
    “I will protect Islam till I die…” 
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    I felt very sorry for these children, and all the people in their community who have been pushed into apostasy, abandoning their age-old faith, when I watched the BBC programme a couple of days ago.

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    I had been planning to write something, but now I have found the report on the BBC website, hardly a ‘phobic’ source, and can refer you to the link below the headline.

    Indonesia’s Orang Rimba: Forced to renounce their faith

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41981430

    The incidentals in the report are off-putting enough, especially this –

    The Islamic Defenders Front – a vigilante group whose leader is facing charges of inciting religious violence – helped facilitate the conversion.

    But what is so tragic is this is happening only a week or so after I applauded Indonesia’s Constitutional Court for ruling that the principle of religious liberty applies not only to the major faiths…

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    Good News – Wow! – For Indonesian Religious Freedom! 

    ….but also to the traditional belief systems that have existed in the archipelago before foreign missionaries introduced the currently dominant creeds.

    It would be nice to rail against this theological blitz-krieg, but I prefer to let you peruse what the BBC has uncovered…

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    …as I look out the front door onto my sunny Jakarta yard and wonder why, every time I run across some hopeful news, something comes along soon after to dash those hopes.

     

     
    • JazPen 3:27 pm on November 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Its sad to see those little kids being indoctrinated and I think this just makes a joke about that ‘Mental Revolution’ we heard so much about.. ..
      Isnt President Jokowi going to do anything about this?

    • Kezia 7:18 pm on November 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Poor children. Poor Rimba people.
      Poor Indonesia if this is done by our leaders and working with those FPI
      One day maybe we will have tolerance here again.

    • Jim in Jakarta 4:09 pm on November 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      So the Constitutional Court says the minority religions here have rights but within a week or two their kids are being brainwashed?
      Sometimes the injustice here just makes me sick!

  • ross1948 2:17 pm on November 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Indonesia, kepercayaan, , religion column, ,   

    Good News – Wow! – For Indonesian Religious Freedom! 


    A rare victory for religious liberty in Jakarta, where Indonesia’s Constitutional Court last week issued a decision  to allow followers of indigenous faiths to state their beliefs on their national identity cards, or KTP…

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    These cards are important, essential even, for they give citizens access to state services of every kind. Without them, life is more than arduous.

    So well done, the Constitutional Court.

     “… the word ‘religion’ on Article 61 [1] and Article 64 [1] of the Civil Administration Law contradicts the 1945 Constitution and is not legally binding.”      http://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesias-constitutional-court-says-yes-indigenous-faiths/

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    In place of the discriminatory articles, the justices have sensibly urged a new category – “believers of the faith,” or penghayat kepercayaan – in addition to the six officially recognized religions – Islam, Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Confucianism. –

    These kepercayaan creeds arguably deserve pride of place, not a mere additional status, because they pre-date the imported religions and have thousands of followers.

    They could have been listed alongside the other years ago, but I’ve read that even the iron regime of President Suharto…

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    ….felt reluctant to risk the wrath of bigots who feared many of their theoretical followers would switch to kepercayaan..

    It always makes me wonder how strong a faith is, if its leaders are forever fretting that their flocks will desert them when given the chance.

    Islamist ‘Scholars’ Quail as ‘Christianisation’ Looms! 

    However, there’s many a slip twixt cup and lip.

    The court’s recommendation is only that, and some fanatics in the administrative levels may drag their feet about implementing the ruling.

    And it would be a nice gesture to supplement this brave step towards fair play in matters of faith if President Jokowi could repeal the intolerant Tri-Ministerial Decree…

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    …which is one of the most oppressive edicts ever issued. and has resulted in widespread persecution of the peaceful and inoffensive Ahmadi minority.

    However, I am not going to hold my breath on that one. If justice for Ahmadis caught on, there might even be fresh demands for a re-opening of the Cikeusik Pogrom case…

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    Cikeusik, Banten Province, February 6th, 2011.

    Watch the pigs at their bloody work on this link..   http://www.liveleak.com/view.

    …when three brave men were murdered – martyred- for their Ahmadiyah religion by a mob of stinking cowards…

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    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

    …and no murder charges were ever brought, despite a sickening video record of the entire vile episode.

    Nevertheless, this has to be welcomed, after a previous ruling from the same court that left intact the bizarre ‘blasphemy law.’

     

     
    • JazPen 8:22 pm on November 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Always nice to see you havent given up on Indonesia.
      I agree the court did well with this but I think youre right, who knows if the government officials will act on the ruling.
      Youre right too to keep raising the Cikeusik case but I have no hope those three murdered men will ever get justice..
      Dont let it go though..

  • ross1948 7:50 am on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Alexis Harus Ditutup? Terus Gimana Hotel2 Bintang Lima? 


    The Alexis must be shut down? So how about Jakarta’s various 5-star hotels?

    That’s my response to the news last month that hit the headlines here, concerning a famous place in the north of the city which is said to be…

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    …and I quote The Jakarta Globe’s quoted descripton –

    ‘A Dreamland for Men!’  – http://jakartaglobe.id/news/jakarta-administration-shuts-infamous-alexis-hotel/

    But I’ll stick with the Jakarta Post for the most part, on our brand new Governor,  Anies Baswedan’s refusal to extend the operation permit of Alexis Hotel in North Jakarta, an establishment he explicitly mentioned during his gubernatorial campaign, claiming that he had collected sufficient evidence that it hosts prostitution services.

    “We are firm. We don’t want Jakarta to become a city that allows prostitution to take place.”

    That’s interesting.

    Whatever the Alexis’ faults – and I’ve never been there – they are surely not unique. ANYONE who has been out for an evening in some of our international-standard five-star hotels ( I won’t say all of them, because I haven’t been to all of them!) must be fully aware that it’s not at all unusual to bump into the occasional kupu2 malam.

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    I met up with a former colleague a couple of weeks ago in one such splendiferous – and expensive – edifice and we had barely ordered a couple of ‘happy hour’ beers before a delightful lady approached us with an amiable but acquisitive gleam in her eye.

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    “Hi!”

    I responded with my habitual courtesy but promptly assured her that we were retired teachers, not the affluent tourists or foreign businessmen who constituted much of the clientele.

    She, with equal courtesy, and promptitude, took her leave of us and went off in search of more acceptable prey.

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    I’m sure she advised her colleagues/rivals because although there were quite a few similarly sultry sorts on the prowl, they none of them showed interest in us thereafter.

    I can think of at least three of four other grand hotels in the city where I’ve encountered these kinds of slightly avaricious but ever-charming slinkies, operating openly and regularly.

    I won’t name them, because I do not wish to be sued –  certain types of business persons here are as litigious as certain types of Americans! – but any male expat who goes out at night will surely confirm my veracity.

    Hence my headlined question – how about the 5-stars?

    Maybe Governor Anies Baswedan has never entered their bars after dark? Is he truly unaware of what goes on?

    Does he plan to refuse to extend their operating permits?

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    If some residents or some media tell him, will he seek to shut them down too?

    But that leads me to the rest of his statement, as reported in the JP.

    We have received reports and complaints from residents as well as media reports [about such a practice]…” Anies, however, refused to elaborate on what kind of evidence he had obtained.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/10/30/anies-firm-to-close-down-alexis-hotel.html

    So another question – does Anies have any REAL evidence, like police reports, or is he set to order the Alexis’ closure purely on the basis of just some fretty residents and the ‘media?

    How come he won’t say?

    And that brings us to another question!

    Has HE ever been there, in the Dreamland of Men?

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    Has HE taken the trouble to use his gubernatorial limousine to travel up to Ancol and have a look, one evening, at the denizens of the Alexis?

    Surely that’s the very least that fair play demands, since ‘the Alexis Hotel has not violated any regulations,  according to its legal representative…

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    …and please note – the refusal to extend the hotel’s operation permit came after media stories regarding banned activities at the hotel, such as the hotel offering massage services.   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/10/31/alexis-hotel-wants-solution-to-keep-operating.html

    MASSAGE SERVICES!?!

    If there’s nothing else on the charge sheet, could there yet be a happy ending?

    Oh, but let’s not forget that closing Alexis was one of newly-elected Jakarta Governor Anies Baswedan’s campaign promises during the gubernatorial election earlier this year.

    SO if he goes ahead, and demonstrates consistency by treating Jakarta’s celebrated international hotels with the same zeal, he will be keeping his word to those who supported him.

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    Anies Baswedan wins a smile from FPI ‘grand imam,’ Habib Rizieq

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    And let’s ALSO not forget some of those supporters, like the white-shirt vigilante gang, the self-styled Islam Defenders Front – the FPI!

    THEY will be beside themselves with glee.

    Even more so if the national parliament presses on with their prohibition law.

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    Before we start packing.

     
    • JazPen 8:52 am on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      All very true and anybody who says its not is telling lies..
      You cant walk into one five star bar in town after 9pm without seeing dozens of working girls all working hard to get to know you.. ,

      • Fadri 9:18 am on November 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Of course Anies has never been there to Alexis I bet.
        But I am sure he has been to the five-star hotels for conference and things like that,.
        Did he never even peek through the bar door? If he did he must see the butterfly girls.
        So much hypocrites here in Jakarta political world..

    • Andy 10:02 am on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      It is just like you say, Ross but your hero Ahok when he was governor was almost as obsessive about the terrible menace of the ‘ladies of the night.’
      In fact they don’t bother guys unless the guy wants to be bothered so I ask myself why doesn’t Anies give this ‘problem’ a low priority and give shutting down Islamist gangs a high priority?
      The answer is there in that big photograph!

    • Jim in Jakarta 11:33 am on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Nobody who knows Jakarta will dispute what you say about some of those very expensive hotels, Ross.
      The only difference between the girls who offer their company to lonely foreigners in the ‘high-class’ bars and the girls in some well-known dives in Blok M is the going rate!

    • Arifin S 7:51 am on November 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I do not like how you think about many things but it is true that Anies should be fair
      If he must order the Alexis Hotel to close he must also close the Jakarta hotels used by rich foreign people if the prostitute work there too.
      It is so with alcohol also.
      The goverment will tell many place to stop selling strong drinks but will never stop it in five star hotel places because the rich tourist will never come back.
      There is no moral in how this is done, it is all about money.

    • Jessica 3:13 pm on November 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Just reading about this.
      They want to open shariah hotels in Jakarta but what is a shariah hotel.?
      I would never go near one but do you have any idea what goes on, besides constant praying and stuff?

  • ross1948 11:15 am on October 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Adriana Venny Aryani, Ayo Poligami, Indonesia, Lindu Cipta Pranayama, poligami, ,   

    Polygamy Problems For Indonesia’s 50-Year-Old Virgins? 


    Yesterday I was not at my best for blogging, instead engaged in watching tv reports about the monstrous attack in Las Vegas. A dark, depressing day, everywhere, surely.

    So if output was not scintillating ( mostly posts previously scheduled and little fresh work done) my apologies.

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    Today, I’m resorting to local news, which may serve to brighten you up – or appal you, not sure which –  all about the alleged plight of ‘many women in their 40s of 50s who are still virgins and unmarried..’ 

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/10/03/ayo-poligami-app-attracts-56000-members-new-version-set-to-launch–.html

    Indonesian women are famously ( though not invariably!) beautiful, and it strikes me as improbable that many of them reach early middle-age unwed if they don’t want to do so.

    However, the Jakarta Post article concerns a new app, or ‘ep‘ as they pronounce it here, promoting polygamy!

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    Its creator, a guy named Lindu Cipta Pranayama, described his motivation and target audience.

    “Can you image being in your 40s or 50s but never been touched by a man?” added the 35-year-old, who created the app after failing to find a wife on several dating sites.

    Well, I can imagine that, never having wanted to be ‘touched by a man!’

    But what’s Lindu’s problem? Men don’t need ‘dating sites’ in Jakarta. Just take a walk round the many malls, or even board a bus – never difficult to get chatting to some pleasant lady!

    And I  can’t imagine why all these poor women would have such a problem either. There are plenty of places they can meet chaps.

    I don’t mean the dodgy bars – lots of high-class hotels have ‘ladies’ nights…’

    …and there are all kinds of clubs, societies etc. they can join to meet the like-minded.

    Age is hardly relevant – I have a friend ( not a girl-friend) who calls herself ‘an old lady’ and claims to be be 50, and she is drop-dead gorgeous. Unless there’s something very amiss, Indonesian ladies into their 6th decade can be delightful to behold.

    But why on earth would they contemplate polygamy?

    There has been ‘controversy’ over Lindu’s brain-child, Ayo Poligami, loosely translated as “let’s go polygamy…”… a free smartphone app that matches married and single Muslim men with women who want to create “big families.”

    Not ‘controversy,’ alas, about the iniquitously discriminatory way the multiple spouse law is applied.

    Men who apply to one of the country’s Islamic courts, which have jurisdiction over marriage, are able to take a second wife under certain circumstances.

    So women are second-class citizens – no right for them to take a second husband, in ANY circumstances!

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    To be fair to Indonesia, the report does state that Indonesian law defines marriage as between a man and a woman…

    GOOD!

    As should all countries!

    but…an important but…polygamy is tolerated in certain circumstances, despite being generally frowned upon.

    Good that the sexist practice is frowned on, but a shame it’s not outlawed…

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    …or, if hornies of one sex are catered for, the same approval is not afforded to over-sexed gals.

    Women’s rights protests are being heard, but far too narrowly focused, in my view. Adriana Venny Aryani, speaking for the National Commission on Violence Against Women, claims that –

    “When the husband is practicing polygamy, women are emotionally abused, economically (abused), and sometimes violently.”

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    No doubt.

    But Adrianna has been politically active, in former President SBY’s party. Some might argue that modern-minded citizens of both sexes (please note, I avoid that silly word ‘gender,’ which is better deployed in grammar tomes) should be more usefully involved in getting rid of the entire archaic practice.

    Unlikely, in view of the powerful politicians who themselves indulge in polygamous marriage!

    We looked at this before, part of our post on Malaysia Truly Arabia – Doubly Discriminatory?  being devoted to the related issues in Indonesia.

    Arianna and her colleagues need to square up to such people.

     
    • JazPen 11:33 am on October 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I must agree with you Ross.
      Even sitting here having lunch in a little resto in North Jakarta, it’s never a problem meeting ladies in this city.

    • Jim in Jakarta 12:08 pm on October 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hohoho!
      I think Lindu must be a little bit more shy than us foreigners, Ross.
      I never have found it hard to get talking to women of all ages here.

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