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  • ross1948 09:20 on January 4, 2019 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Indonesian justice, , Meiliana mosque noise,   

    Good On Ya, Scomo – Oz Protests Plan To Free Ba’asyir The Unrepentant! 


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    • I used to think Indonesia’s Religious Affairs Minister, Lukman Hakim Saifuddin, represented a great leap forward, and, compared to the intolerant bigot who held that job before him…

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    Appointed by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono earlier this month to run the new task force into pornography, Ali told reporters in Jakarta yesterday that a set of universal criteria must be decided. He added that, “one criteria will be when anyone is wearing a skirt above the knee.”

    But Lukman’s pronouncements on the unleashing of convicted terror beast Abu Bakr Ba’asyir  “A Wise And Noble Step?” Islamic ‘Scholars’ On Terrorist Unleashed In Indonesia!– make me wonder, notably if he understands what forgiveness is all about.

    Lukman has asked the Indonesian people to forgive what the Jakarta Post euphemistically calls the ‘firebrand cleric‘ – whom most people would describe as a vicious, villainous fanatic. The JP goes on to remind us that Ba’asyir is a terror convict believed to have been responsible for the 2002 Bali bombings. 

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2019/01/20/he-is-really-old-religious-affairs-minister-asks-indonesians-to-forgive-baasyir.html

    Even given that belief, some people might, depending how their minds function, be prepared to take a relaxed view of the jihadist fiend’s release, since, as an octogenarian, he will, sooner rather than later, be dead, and burning in Hell for all eternity.

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    But even so…

    Lukman’s call for ‘public support’ of  Jokowi’s decision is apparently founded on a misunderstanding of forgiveness, which ( in the religion I was raised in – Protestantism) depended on repentance. If somebody says he’s sorry, and means it, then you should forgive him.

    Admittedly, I’m no expert on Muslim theology, but certainly here in Indonesia, Muslims who get together on Idul Fitri, Eid, after the Ramadan month, ask each other for forgiveness – mohon ma’af…

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    …for anything they’ve done wrong.

    But Lukman simply says “Every religion teaches us to forgive even the sinful ones. [Ba’asyir]’s condition has weakened because of old age and illness, so let us forgive him.”

    What, even if the sinful sectarian is not even a tiny bit sorry for the evil he’s done?

    And THAT is why the concern expressed by Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison is so welcome.

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    If Ba’asyir the Beast had finally recognised what an affront to humanity he is, if he had promised to kneel down outside the Australian Embassy in Jakarta in a public show of remorse for his foul words and deeds – heck, if he had disowned his monstrous ideology and sworn allegiance to the pluralist Pancasila principles of the Republic of Indonesia…

    But another issue of the JP tells us exactly how sorry Ba’asyir is.

    Ba’asyir, who is eligible to be released on parole on Dec. 13, insists on DEFYING a general condition of parole that requires him to express LOYALTY to the national ideology Pancasila, which is STIPULATED in Government Regulation No. 99/2012 on sentence reduction for inmates, including those convicted of terrorism….So [Ba’asyir] will be released unconditionally. His house will not be guarded by police. He can opine that DEMOCRACY IS A TRANSGRESSION (OF ISLAM) – We will let him…” (my capitalisation)

    That was said by Jokowi’s lawyer who thinks it acceptable that that Ba’asyir would continue to insist that he ”would only obey God.”  

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2019/01/19/lawyer-says-baasyirs-release-not-gift-from-jokowi.html

    Of course none of these quibblings would be necessary if only Indonesia executed every terrorist, as happened, to general joy, when the Bali Bomb Pigs were shot…

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    …but…

     
    • Heru 12:55 on January 22, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Yes this is what I want to say too.
      Baasyir should apologise to ALL of us both Australians and Indonesians for his terror and should give up his hate.
      If not,keep him in a cage forever.

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  • ross1948 21:37 on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Indonesian justice, murderess, Noor Ellis   

    Bali Murderess ‘Naughty?’ They Should Have Shot the Slag! 


    I often use that Bali website because as a rule it’s reliable and sensible.

    But this week whoever composes their headlines seems to have gone right off the rails. What else can one infer from this headline? 

    Naughty Noor’s Nest of Killers All Sentenced to Prison

    http://www.balidiscovery.com.

    Naughty? The bloody bitch recruited ruthless accomplices and brutally murdered her blameless Australian husband!

    That’s not ‘naughty.’

    It’s NASTY!

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    She’s a SHE-DEVIL!

    And despite death by firing squad (rightly) being available as part of the Indonesian penal code, she only got a ridiculous 12 years for her heinous crime, for which she had NO excuse!

    Her own son made that clear.

    “I never saw her with any less than five million rupiah ($500AUD) on her and at least $10,000 worth of jewellery. Never. She would buy clothes and drop them on the floor and the maids would come and pick them up and she would buy more. That’s all she would do – spend money.”
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/murdered-australian-businessman-robert-ellis-wife-deserves-death-penalty-his-brother-says

    There’s many a wonderful woman here in Indonesia. I speak of what I know.

    But there are also plenty of mercenary slags, and while that’s true of every country, you have to be extra careful when you’re a stranger in a foreign land.

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    And all the more so in a land where beauty blossoms so profusely (even Nasty Noor might have once been a looker!)

    Wise men are wary men. Can’t judge a book by its cover, right?

    Bad choices lead to bad situations.

     
    • Dave A 08:54 on July 14, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      You hit the nail on the head, mate.

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