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  • ross1948 04:48 on June 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Indonesian pluralism   

    Selamat Hari Pancasila – In Lombok Too? 


    Happy Pancasila Day, a relatively new public holiday in Indonesia, on which I commented last year…

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    ….contemplating the meaning of the word, which is all about pluralism and brotherhood.

    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2017/06/01/happy-pancasila-day-is-brotherhood-worth-a-hundred-meter-walk/

    My observations then should still resonate with Indonesians who cherish their heritage of religious tolerance, which has been gravely undermined since last year…

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    Ahok

    ….what with the imprisonment of Jakarta’s Christian Governor Ahok for the mediaeval ‘crime’ of ‘blasphemy’- in his case merely quoting a Koranic verse during his election campaign, a quip which his largely Muslim audience at the time took in good part, but which was then seized on…

    Slouching Towards Shariah, Indonesia Jails Ahok

    ….by the worst elements in the archipelago, hordes of sectarian bigots marching through Jakarta calling for the honest, pleasant man to be ‘burned.’

    We even had reports of brain-washed brats squealing similarly sectarian hate-grunts.

    Ramadhan In Jakarta -‘Kill Ahok,’ Sing Parading Child-Bigots!

    And look who’s Jakarta Governor today!

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    • Governor Anies won an adoring smile from ferocious fanatic Habib Rizieq, who had suggested the Christian Governor Ahok (Anies’ predecessor)  be slain for unacceptably quoting some Koranic verse –.“We encourage the government to process the death penalty for Ahok as soon as possible,” said Rizieq. 
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    The sealed churches in Bogor and Bekasi are still sealed…

    Christ’s Ascension Day – Islamist Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks 

    Still There! Oppressed Christians Swelter In Jakarta! 

    …thanks to mean-spirited, intolerant Islamists.

    And as for the peaceful and utterly harmless Ahmadi minority?Only this month, moronic savages ran amok in Lombok…

    Ahmadi community comes under attack in East Lombok, as homes and properties destroyed

    Over the past two days, eight homes, four motorcycles and a shop have been destroyed. “The attacks were based on similar reasons: hatred and intolerance,” said a spokesperson for the Ahmadiyah Indonesia Congregation.
    “It’s not the first and definitely won’t be the last attack. It’s been years and the Ahmadi community continues to live under threats…” 

    Absolutely not the first time, sir.

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer …..

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    ahmadis transito 
    Bigot scum in Lombok destroy Ahmadi homes -100 cops just watched – and that wasn’t this month, it was YEARS ago.

    In Squalid Internal Exile, Lombok Ahmadis Denied Voting Rights 

    So let’s hope those poor victims in Lombok can find something to cheer about on this Pancasila Day.

     
    • Jim in Jakarta 10:03 on June 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I thought you had missed that horrible news from Lombok but I should have known better. Better to save it for this national holiday that as you say is about tolerance and liberty, equality, fraternity.
      If the police arrest those thugs that attacked the Lombok Ahmadis and if a court convicts them and gives them long prison terms then I will start believing that Pancasila still matters to the government.
      I have few hopes that is going to happen.

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    • Kezia 12:46 on June 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      So bad what has happened in Lombok.
      I hope our President Jokowi celebrates our Pancasila Day by ordering Densus police to get the criminals who terrorize poor Ahmadiyah people

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    • Wulan 13:09 on June 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I hear from my friend we all comment today so me too. Pak President must to punish the terorists in Lombok and make them pay ahmadiyas for all the damages.

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    • Sinta 13:23 on June 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Agree like everyone here.
      I like what you writing about Indonesia.
      Nice you care about our country.

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    • JazPen 19:48 on June 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      I spent the day with some very nice Indonesians and it gives me a headache to picture what kind of country theywll have to live in if the government here doesnt do something to secure pancasila values.

      The Lombok violence wasnt as bad as Cikeusik but it looks like nobody is going to do time for it.
      I may be wrong and I hope I am wrong but if the culprits dont get serious prison time then it would be a clever move to give up up having a pancasila holiday.

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    • Djardjo 20:39 on June 1, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      You do not need to tell me how Indonesia has been changing so much and worse now not better.
      I am old and Indonesia is so different than when I am young.
      Sometimes it is like we live in a crazy country and this Lombok terror story is only one more sad story in a list that is longer all the time.
      Good night and God bless you.

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  • ross1948 05:30 on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Friday hate-parade Jakarta, , Indonesian pluralism, Javanese hair-bun,   

    ‘Blasphemy’ Traffic Jams, Again? Jakarta’s Latest Fanatic Friday! 


    Poor Jakarta commuters!

    Once more fanatic Islamists are going to quite needlessly screw up the streets of the capital tomorrow, to protest about ‘poetry!’

    Seriously.

    Our traffic jam conditions here are on most days pretty bad, often absolutely hellish…

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    …so it’s bad enough they have chosen to ignore the obvious sensible day to do their thing, Sunday, when disruption to normal people’s lives would be minimised.

    But to stage their extremist antics about a poem written and recited by Sukmawati, one of the late President Sukarno’s daughters?

    The perpetrators of the parade plan are known as the PA212 , ( 212 alumni brotherhood)  and although the route is short – though they will likely insist ludicrously on calling it a ‘long march’ – it runs smack-dab through the heart of the city.

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    Istiqlal Mosque

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    For local readers, I offer Tempo magazine’s description of the route – from Istiqlal Mosque to Mabes POLRI (National Police HQ)

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    Mabes Polri

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    One of their spokesmen tried to justify the massive inconvenience to thousands of innocent people.

    “This rally aims to support Police investigating the blasphemy case, whoever the doer is.” https://en.tempo.co/read/news/2018/04/04/055917299/212-Alumni-to-Stage-Rally-Against-Sukmawatis-Poetry

    Exactly how thousands of sectarians shrilling their hate for ‘blasphemy’ can be interpreted as giving ‘support’ to the police is beyond rational man’s comprehension.

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    Western countries got over these ‘blasphemy’ hang-ups a LONG time ago.

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    But rationality hardly comes into this.

    The so-called ‘blasphemy’ charge arises because the poem mentioned Islamic sharia law, veil, and the sound of adhan [prayer call].

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    Gambar terkait

    Sadly, Sukmawati, who is herself a Muslim,  has ‘voiced her regret’ for her words, which were read out at Indonesia Fashion Week.

    “I am sorry to Muslim communities especially to those feeling offended by the poetry,” she said, weeping…

    Millions of Muslims here in Indonesia share normal people everywhere’s disgust at the frequent savageries carried out under Aceh Province’s shariah law…

    Aceh’s Mad Mullah – ‘Dancing is EVIL – It Involves Body Movements!’ 

    ..with masked brutes publicly flogging little girls…

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    The Sharia Hell of Aceh!

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    ….and millions of Indonesian Muslim women go around like normal women – no scarf, no veil.

    BTW, I hear that some uptights got fretty because there was a suggestion that the Javanese hair-bun enhanced girls’ looks more than a head-scarf…

     Sukmawati also said that women with bun were pretier than women with veil… 

    http://www.republika.co.id/berita/en/islam-in-archipelago/18/04/03/p6lshi414-not-knowing-islamic-sharia-mui-its-a-mishap-for-muslim

    (that link is to Republika, one of the foremost Islamic media here, and reading it is alarming – and I don’t mean just the spelling and grammar errors!)

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    Women in Java never used to be ashamed of their hair!

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    …since when has stating the obvious been a cause for offence? 

    As for the ‘call to prayer’ – here are a few of the reports we’ve posted about that phenomenon.

    Turn It Down! Ex VP Urges Volume Control for Noisy Indonesian Mosques 

     

    Aceh – Muslim Seeks Quieter Mosques, Bullied Into Silence, after ‘Death Threats!’ 

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    So what’s all the fuss about?

    It seems to me that this is just another step in what we used to refer to as ‘Creeping Shariah’ – or Arabisation – a relentless drive to drag Indonesia away from her pluralist traditions…

    ….by using the ‘Blasphemy Law’  – imagine any country in the 21st Century having such a law – and is honestly not surprising after the jailing of Jakarta’s Governor Ahok merely for quoting a Koranic verse.

    But we’ve said all that before.

    Creeping Shariah,’ Warns Prof. Muhammed, As Jakarta Dims! 

    Kasihan, Jakarta, Sayangku – What A Pity, Beloved City! 

    Get Your Tickets Soon – Jakarta Shariah Tourism Boom? 

    Bigot Ban Hurts Jakarta Business – CreepingShariah Continues! 

    Just feel a bit of sympathy, wherever you are, for the misery intended by those sectarian zealots against all the sane citizens who just want tomorrow to go about their legitimate business. 

     
    • JazPen 10:31 on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      All too true, Ross.
      Sometimes I wonder f this is the same country I arrived in years ago.
      Indonesia is going downhill fast.

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    • Santi 10:37 on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Good Ross! Why must she apologise for anything she wants to say?
      Indonesia is still a democratic republic and we must be free to speak

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    • Wulan 11:30 on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Java ladies always have looked nice with the hair and the kebaya and we do look more pretty.
      Why we must cover up like the poor Iran and Arab Saudi women.

      I am sorry my english is not so good but I think it is better than Republika, yes?

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    • Jim in Jakarta 11:58 on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      My sentiments exactly, Ross.
      I would like to discuss it over a beer but it will have to be soon.
      If their Prohibition Act gets passed we may both be in prison.

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    • Kezia 12:18 on April 5, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you Ross for letting the people in other countries know how bad life in Indonesia is becoming.

      These jihadist marchers do not believe in the right of other people to free speech.
      Like Ahok before, now Sukmawati may be put in jail for her poem,and why?
      Because these fanatics do not like what she says.

      She is the daughter of our country’s Founding Father.
      What chances will there be for little people like me or my friends who like freedom to speak freely if the jihadists can do all this to her and make her offer an apology for telling the truth.

      It is all so sad. I hope you never leave us but at the least you as a foreigner can do that.
      Where can we go to be free, because this is our home?

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  • ross1948 07:54 on February 14, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bondowoso, , , Endang Hardiyanti, Indonesian pluralism, , students intimidated,   

    East Java Kids Face An Anti-Valentine Diktat! 


    Haram!

    We have not seen so many news reports of anti-Valentine hysteria in Indonesia this year, although there has been one classic, already noted…

    and while maybe an encouraging sign, that deprives me of good raw material like those last year…

    Anti-Valentine Raids On Java Bed-Sits? : 

     

    …or in the years before that.

    Sumatra Goon-Squad ‘Monitors’ Valentine Vice! 

     satpolbekasi  Valentine_Menurut_Islam

    However, here’s one more example that popped up a few days ago!

    The latest anti-Valentine jackboot bigotry, NOT by the MUI fanatics this time, but, incredibly, according to Eramuslim news page, by the Department of Education and Culture in Bondowoso Regency, East Java!

    These sticky-beak bureaucrats are not content to issue a diktat for the educational property that comes within their sphere of authority –

    “We have sent a circular letter to the school to ban students not to celebrate valentine day that is not our culture,” said Head of Education and Culture of Bondowoso, Endang Hardiyanti in Bondowoso

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    According to Endang, the celebration of “Valentine Day” tends to lead to negative things that are not in accordance with religious norms and Eastern culture, so it’s reasonable if the next generation of the nation is empowered not to the day of love.

    Part of what she says is true, clearly. Valentines would be as unknown in Indonesia as other cultural imports, e.g. Mickey Mouse and jazz, were it not for Western influence.

    Are the two latter phenomena also to be outlawed because of her chauvinistic prejudice? Do Mickey, and jazz, also lead to ‘negative things?’

    One assumes not. One sadly assumes that the animosity towards Valentines is motivated by the perceived like between the celebration and normal affection between boys and girls.

    Hasil gambar untuk public display of affection

    Indonesia – Deadly Invasion by PDA! 

    We know the sort of nasty infantile hang-ups some people have about the PDA threat!

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    But that reference to religion is downright sinister.

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    Endang goes on to rant that Valentine’s Day is very contrary to our religion, so we need to fortify the students to not be affected by negative culture.”

    I thought Indonesia was a pluralist country!

    She’s a Muslim, but the Provincial Department she’s meant to serve is itself meant to serve ALL children in East Java, regardless of religion.

    Her sectarian outlook is deplorable, but she seems not even to confine her Islamist intimidation to the schools.

    Endang has issued a circular.

    “The school should inform the parents of the students about the ban, either by mail, or through meetings.”  

    Dikbud Bondowoso Larang Siswa Rayakan Valentine Day

    What’s not clear is whether she’s trying to expand her intolerance beyond the school-yard to the unfortunate students’ homes…

    …or if perhaps, in a last-minute glimmer of rationality, she aims to give parents the opportunity to challenge her dictatorial decree.

    Eramuslim doesn’t pursue this question, but I tend to fear the former explanation is more likely!

     

     
    • Prita 12:07 on February 14, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      You do good to tell us that Indonesia is pluralist from its first independence day in 1945.
      This woman can talk about our religion but she only means HER religion.
      She forget other people have rights also and beside that many Muslim younger people also enjoy romantic dinner today.
      We like the valentine fun and it is not bad for anybody.

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    • Santi 12:30 on February 14, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Wow. I ask you for more about our Indonesia and soon you make the wish come true.
      This is very good and I send this comment as my well-done valentine to thank you.
      Why can East Java schoolchildren not enjoy cards and flowers same like I did when I was at school in Jakarta.
      Killjoy is a fine word to call the people against valentines.

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