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  • ross1948 7:18 pm on June 4, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Gregorian University Rome, , Islam, , , red rehab campaign   

    Jakarta Post’s ‘Red Apology’ Clique Getting Desperate? 


    The Jakarta Post must be getting increasingly desperate in its dredging around for people to join the  Red-Rehab-Jihad.

    By that I mean the campaign for an indiscriminate ‘apology’ to all those who fell foul of anti-communist activity in the wake of the failed PKI kudeta in 1965.

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    • The Indonesian Communist Party had misled a lot of simple peasants into joining their front organisation, and it was mostly them that got whacked. The cowardly communist leadership managed, most of them, to scuttle off to agreeably tyrannical regimes overseas.

    An angry Indonesia lashed out, catching a bunch of Reds but also detaining people falsely accused of communism as well as innocents who were unlucky to be kin to marxist malignants.


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    • Now the JP and its collaborationist cohorts want President Jokowi to ‘apologise,’ without any distinction between the evil hypocrites of the PKI and those latter unfortunates.

    Bizarrely they’ve now roped in somebody identified as a ‘Nostra Aetate Fellow’ at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome, which is no doubt as totally meaningless to me as it is to you.

    One might assume it’s a trainee priest, but in fact it’s a chick! 

    More surprisingly, it’s a chick named Lailatul Fitriyah, which is a very Islamic sort of name for a fellow of the very Catholic Pontifical Gregorian Uni! I wondered briefly how many Italian Catholics hold fellowships at universities in Medina or Mosul! 

    Whatever, she maintains that Islam is an inherently egalitarian faith that upholds critical thinking and attainment of justice as its core teachings.

    So she presumably didn’t grow up in a family that had this kind of disgusting sexism plastered around the living-room.

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    ‘Fathers and Husbands, their private parts are your responsibility!’


    Of course I do know many Muslims who are fair–minded and most capable of ‘critical thinking.’ 

    But Indonesia’s state-sponsored MUI (Council of ‘Scholars’) needs to snap out of its backward bigotry before she can argue her case effectively.


    “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
     http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

    Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta

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    More importantly, this college cutie needs to remember which newspaper she’s writing for when she asserts that –

    Support from Muslims to ban “leftist” books is especially sad; instead of upholding Islamic values they are emulating the destruction of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad in 1258 AD.

    They are crippling one of the most important principles in Islam, the preservation and distribution of knowledge. 

    OK!

    I’m not au fait with her historical references, but her last half dozen words are hard to disagree with!

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    But surely they must be anathema to the editorial clique at the Jakarta Post.

    Their owners, and presumable pay-masters, the Gramedia conglomerate, is downright INFAMOUS across Indonesia for their Nazi-style book-burning, carried out in cahoots with those virulent enemies of free expression, none other than the MUI.

    If Ms Lailatul Fitriyah wants to wax lyrical about people backward and bigoted enough to engage in mass destruction of books they don’t like, Gramedia is a much better and more obvious target than the poorly educated IslamoNazis she’s justifiably criticising,  

    Why doesn’t she get stuck into that JP clique whose editorials have yet to criticise their overseers?

    What do we say about the Jakarta Post? What does Ms L have to say?

    C’mon, honey, put the boot into Gramedia! But then the Jakarta Post wouldn’t publish you if you showed such consistency, would they?

     

    PS – Oh, and before we leave her to do her home-work, a final response to another of her know-all rebukes.

    If you are a Muslim and drifting through the issue of anti-communism, at least ask yourself whether you completely understand what communism is. http://www.thejakartapost.com/academia/2016/06/03/fear-is-not-islamic-reflection-ahead-of-ramadhan.html

    If she’s in Rome, she should meet some clergy from East and Central Europe. Their countries have first-hand experience and thus completely understand what communism is.

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    • Mass-murder, concentration camps, show-trials, rigged elections, an unfree press – a myriad of evils…

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    ….and still on  display par excellence in the one Communist country hailed by the PKI’s unlamented D N Aidit as the one he’d have most liked to model Indonesia upon. 

    aquariums-pyongyang-ten-years-in-north-korean-gulag-kang-chol-hwan-paperback-cover-art North Korea, Hell on Earth

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  • ross1948 10:44 pm on May 5, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , Islam, , , , Yasri Khan   

    Sweden – Rude Little Rat Plays Race Card! 


    “For many people it will be a symbolic act. But for me it is a consequence of my faith and my religion, and I have to be respected for who I am,” he said of his reluctance to shake women’s hands.” 

    http://www.thelocal.se/20160502/this-would-not-have-happened-if-i-was-white

    • I suppose if he spat on passing Jews, he’d say the same?

    This mangy little sexist oaf named Yasri Khan, a freako fanatic forced to resign from his job with the Green Party last month, clearly doesn’t grasp that he does NOT ‘have to be respected.’

    Respect has to be earned.

    Many Swedes might reckon he has to be despised, for using a cloak of religion to try to justify his backward bigotry. 

    The man’s a liar.

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    • Most Muslims here in Jakarta are happy to shake hands with women. And when the same issue arose recently in Switzerland, decent Muslims there rebuked the nasty little sectarian sexist who wouldn’t shake hands with a lady.

    There was no reference in the Koran justifying a refusal to shake a woman teacher’s hand, said the Swiss Federation of Islamic Organisations. Saida Keller-Messahli of the Forum for Progressive Islam urged the Swiss not to give in to extremist demands.     http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35967349

    But what gets me is his pathetic attempt to play the race card, whining that he had been the victim of an Islamophobic, racist campaign which risks turning Sweden into a divided society. 

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    • “I am quite sure I would not have been treated like this if I’d been a white man. “

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    First of all, Sweden has already been turned into a divided society, by its own stupid governments, which have allowed benighted brutes like him to settle there, people who can’t adapt to Swedish ways and insist on imposing their own alien customs and cultures.  http://www.thelocal.se/20160421/young-extremists-in-sweden-must-be-taken-seriously

    Secondly, if he’d been white, there’d have been an even greater uproar over such a display of crass discourtesy.

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    • Instead we have the politically correct Enemy Within rallying to his cause because, they say, alien imports like Yasri should not be expected to accord with civilised standards of basic good manners.

    Thirdly, of course, Muslims are NOT a race.

    I have personally met white, brown, black and yellow Muslims. So ‘racism’ does not come into questions of being pro- or anti- Muslim.

    But what makes this little obnox so offensive is the barely veiled threat of violence, if Swedes don’t kow-tow to his sort of fanaticism. 

    Otherwise, this is not the end. We could end up in a situation similar to France and see the suburbs burn.

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    Actually, ignoramus, the burning began in Sweden several years ago. 

    Sweden in flames: As gangs of migrants riot for five nights …

    But we take your point. 


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    • Dan Polazzi 3:54 am on May 6, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      It’s not only in Sweden, Ross. In France, according to what I’ve been reading, there are soccer players who ‘refused to shake hands with the female delegates of the football federation..”
      Mr.Eric Borghini, a regional President of the French Football Federation told the media.-“There were even referees who refused to shake hands with female players.”
      http://www.thelocal.fr/20160429/how-nice-plans-to-separate-football-and-religion

      I honestly can’t see why they should be allowed to play again if they don’t apologize for their bad manners.

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    • Mark Callan 5:06 am on May 6, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Migrants aka ‘refugees’ aka ‘asylum-seekers’ have been the cause of soaring crime against women, including rape, in Sweden for years and this Khan thinks he deserves ‘respect’ for disrespecting women?
      Quite right, Ross, he and his kind have to be repatriated and not only from Sweden.

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  • ross1948 12:02 am on April 24, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , Glagow, , , , Islam, , , , , Scotland. apostasy, Sunni   

    Echoing Cikeusik, Sectarian Blood-Lust Now Pollutes The UK! 


    Some readers may think I give too much attention to the inoffensive Ahmadi minority here in Indonesia.
    They are peaceful, patriotic Indonesian citizens, against whom the Government’s Tri-Ministerial Decree openly discriminates.
    The intolerant ‘scholars’ of the state-sponsored MUI have fatwaed them, simply because they worship God Almighty in slightly different ways from the Sunni majority here.
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    Bigot scum in Lombok destroy Ahmadi homes -100 cops just watched

    In Squalid Internal Exile, Lombok Ahmadis Denied Voting Rights 

    While they have suffered much, for years, often due to the refusal of the police to protect and serve all citizens regardless of religion, the worst example of the persecution visited upon them was the Cikeusik Pogrom.
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    Islamist pig revels in sectarian slaughter at Cikeusik
    Three Ahmadis were martyred, brutally bludgeoned to death by a 1000-strong mob of sectarian cowards only a few score miles from where I sit tonight in Jakarta.   Watch it on video..–  http://www.liveleak.com/view.– nobody has EVER been charged with murder. The armed cops stood back and watched, and the subsequent hearings were a sick joke, None of the scum involved got much more than six months, and one of the innocent Ahmadi survivors was jailed too!

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

    Okay, enough -it makes me angry every time I write about the issue.
    But now we have another pig-ignorant sectarian savage spewing out the same kind of rot we have heard here.
    He murdered another innocent Ahmadi – where?
    In Scotland.
    Here’s the disgusting crap the killer’s lawyer has released in Glasgow.
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    “Asad Shah disrespected the messenger of Islam the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Mr Shah claimed to be a Prophet.”So? Who gives a sh-t? Anyone in a free country can claim to be a prophet.The pignoramus rants on a bit more, then here’s the nub of his justification for murder.

    “…no one has the right to claim to be a Prophet or to change the Quran or change Islam.

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    Wrong, dimwit! 

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    Maybe in countries with ludicrous ‘blasphemy’ laws, nobody has that right, but in Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom? 
    There’s no hogwash legislation about blasphemy so EVERYONE has the right to claim to be a prophet and to express a wish to change Islam if they wake up one day and wish to do so.
    If anyone doesn’t like religious liberty, then he or she can sod off out of civilised places and head back to backward backwoods.
    “It is mentioned in the Quran that there is no doubt in this book no one has the right to disrespect the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and no one has the right to disrespect the Prophet of Islam Muhammad Peace be upon him.
    Yes, that’s right, about what the Koran says, as far as I know.BUT it’s wrong, AGAIN, if you think that because the Koran says people have no right to do something, then they may not do it.
    In democracies with civil and religious liberty, people can disrespect any creed or any religious figure, living or dead.
    If you can’t handle that, you shouldn’t be there, so SOD OFF!0000000000

    Asad Shah, victim of a pignoramus

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    “If I had not done this others, would and there would have been more killing and violence in the world.   
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/658770/Man-admits-murdering-shopkeeper-Asad-Shah-for-disrespecting-Islam
    Not just alien and primitive, but imbued with menace to all decent people who share British values.
    This warped swine committed murder – because his Ahmadi victim wished his British friends a Happy Easter.
    Nice to see the Express point out at the end of its report that the foul fanatic regime in Pakistan persecutes Ahmadis – Ahmadiyya are banned by the constitution of Pakistan from referring to themselves as Muslims.
    Imagine the government of any civilised nation sticking its nose into determining who can call themselves believers in what, or who can say what about whom?
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    Imagine America telling Mormons they can’t call themselves Christian?
    Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, but it’s not for any damn government to decide.
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    Meanwhile, news of this crime is spreading around the world.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/08/why-some-british-muslims-are-calling-for-the-death-of-other-british-muslims/
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    And the hate we can see in that Cikeusik video is spreading too, all across London, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hate-leaflets-calling-killing-ahmadi-muslims-distributed-across-london-1553591 with reports of Ahmadi kids bullied at school by dirty young bigots, presumably the spawn of obnoxious slags like these.——-

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    What makes this all the worse is that Ahmadiyah are good citizens of the UK, nothing like the scum in the photo above, and the same goes for Ahmadis in Canada.  .
    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/good-move-mr-harper-and-good-choice-that-recognition-of-canadas-good-ahmadi-citizens/
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    It is incumbent on the British Police not to emulate supine counterparts elsewhere, yet a UK Ahmadi leader is quoted thus-
    “I think the police are slightly clueless, or they don’t want to recognise it because there are deep links to what is going on in Pakistan.” It is doubly incumbent on every Islamic cleric in the United Kingdom to repudiate the vile exhortation in the hate-propaganda referred to (in the WP story) which prescribes the same punishment that is doled out for apostates (those who have renounced their own religion), advocating allowing followers a three-day period to “get back into the Islamic fold. If he does not, he is to be awarded capital punishment.”

    Anyone who subscribes to that kind of moronic drivel  should be arrested and deported.

    They are unfit for civilised society.

    And, BTW, the interrogation of so-called ‘migrants and refugees’ that’s supposed to decide their suitability for ‘asylum’ should include the issues mentioned in the hate-literature. Anyone who thinks Ahmadis, or apostates, should be killed, or harmed in any way, should NEVER be allowed to enter Europe. 

    Who needs more savages?.

     

    And any scumbags already in Europe who think that way should be booted out. 

     

     

     
  • ross1948 1:10 pm on January 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , cholis nafis, , , Islam, , , ,   

    Sexy Agnes – MUI Exonerates Her Arabic Transparency! 


    Agnes Monica is very popular here in Indonesia.

    I enjoyed seeing her live in Jakarta, a few years back, an energetic, bubbly songstress whose dance routines are at least as appealing as her lyrical efforts.

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    Now Liputan6.com. reports that she enlivened TV channel Indosiar’s anniversary show in what Google Translate enticingly chooses to call ‘sexy transparent black overalls featuring Arabic script!’

    The words on her overalls were apparently Al Muttahidah.

    http://showbiz.liputan6.com/read/2410284/mui-komentari-baju-berbahasa-arab-agnes-monica?ref=yfp

    And needless to say, an array of uptights began a-shrilling.

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    Many netizens condemned it, given that the Arabic script so closely resembled a symbol of Islam.

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    Good for Chairman of the Da’wa MUI, Cholil Nafis! One hopes his words will serve as a rebuke for cretinous sectarians who spend their time seeking out reasons to be offended.

    His level-headed approach is a delightful contrast to the numbskulls up in Aceh, where the clowns of the shariah regime had her billboard ads portray her in a headscarf, despite the fact she’s a Christian!Shariah In Aceh: Eroding Indonesia’s Secular Freedoms

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    Anyway, since we’re on the subject of Agnes’ taste in clothing, here,for overseas readers, are some photos to explain her huge fan club in Indonesia.

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    Inilah Foto Bugil <b>Agnes Monica</b> Terbaru 2013

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    Only Time For Agnes, Today, and She's Tomorrow

     
    • Denny 3:19 pm on January 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Great photos, thanks.
      I would not think that a jilbab would improve Agnes.

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  • ross1948 9:18 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Elizabeth SMART, Islam, , , , Utah law HB101,   

    PC Burka-Grovel Condemned a Girl to Rape Nightmare! 


    Hard to credit that any law-enforcement officer in any civilised country would behave in such a supine manner.

    This story, about Elizabeth Smart, the young girl beaten and raped for months by a psycho in the USA, comes from Taki’s Magazine.

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    • I reprint some of it, because with Canada due to vote next week, it is most timely to remind everyone there that the burka/niqab/vile veil, call it what you will, is intolerable.

    Not just because those women who skulk behind it are either engaging in deliberate self-abasement or coerced thereto, tainting that fundamental acceptance of women as full citizens which should be part of Canada…

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    A Detective Richey was suspicious when he saw a bearded man with a face-shrouded female in a public place. But when he wanted to check it out, the man refused to let him.

    Instead of doing his duty, the cop backed off, because he was concerned about violating Mitchell’s “civil rights” and offending his “religious beliefs…”

    He retreated from the library, giving in to Mitchell’s claim that the niqab was sacred and that lifting it would be a gross civil rights violation… Smart testified that as Detective Richey abandoned her, “I felt like hope was walking out the door…. I felt terrible that the detective could just walk away.”

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    • She had to endure seven more months of bestial abuse because of Richey’s spineless conduct, yet at the trial, Richey had the nerve to say  “There’s nothing I would have done differently.” 

    Taki’s article explains why Richey may have felt he had to put Burka-Grovel before responsibility.

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    • A ridiculous PC state law had somehow got through Utah’s legislature just a month before the encounter occurred. Under HB 101 officers would risk disciplinary action if their discretionary stops demonstrated “bias” or “racial profiling.”

    Knowing that any complaint against him would be put into the HB 101 database, Detective Richey chose to walk away. (side note: Utah Republicans made sure HB 101 was not renewed when it expired in 2007)

    It turns out the media suppressed this part of the scandal, with one exception, The Salt Lake Tribune

    In her closing argument to the jury, Assistant U.S. Attorney Diana Hagen blasted Mitchell: “In the Salt Lake City Library, he played the Muslim card for all that it was worth.”  Niqab Nightmare – Taki’s Magazine

    The monster was not Muslim, BTW, and decent Muslims will no doubt be as appalled as I am by the sordid sell-out story, but as Taki says,

    It’s a damning quote, and the media ignored it completely.

    This head-shroud should be outlawed everywhere. In my home city, Jakarta, 90% Muslim, almost nobody wears it. 

    I read somewhere that even Chad, in the Sahara Desert, has done so. 

    Why not Canada?

     
    • Juwita 11:54 am on October 13, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      It is so like you say, no Indonesian woman will wear that thing like mask, we are proud of our hair and face and smiling.
      Only Arab expat likes to have his woman wear it, and some crazy kampung men who think like Arab.
      Who knows what his woman thinks, she is like dog trail after him.
      I pity the woman like that.

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  • ross1948 12:23 am on July 18, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , , Islam, , Saeed Abedini,   

    Apostates? Just Folks Who Think For Themselves! Sign the Petition! 


    Been contemplating this shocking story about censorship in American universities for a while, following on from our previous pieces on how intolerant Islamists tried, and, disgracefully, succeeded in curtailing campus freedoms when students wanted to watch American Sniper. 

    Enemy Within Captures Another US Campus 

    But this case is worse.

    An opinion piece written by a student at the University of California-Berkeley explaining her decision to leave Islam has been pulled from the school newspaper’s website over fears for the author’s safety.   http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/students-anti-islam-article-retracted-due-to-safety-risk/

    We all abhor the ludicrous blasphemy laws in barbaric Middle East countries and dumps like Pakistan.

    Here in Indonesia too such legislation exists, and is used not so much for real ‘blasphemy’ as to let the fanatics in the Sunni community persecute those who dissent from their dogmas.

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    But personally, I get most livid about the iniquitous attitude towards ‘apostates,’ as if apostasy, changing one’s religion, is somehow bad.

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    Of course it’s not.

    Apostasy is the formal renunciation of one’s religion. One who commits apostasy is called an apostate.

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    Intelligent people actually make use of the brains that God gives them to think for themselves, and if that means they come to the conclusion that the creed they were brought up in does not make sense any longer, then they’ll leave it.

    They may cease to believe in anything at all, or they may switch to another religion that suits them

    Whatever, it’s entirely up to them. And good luck to them in their spiritual quest. If God Almighty is sitting up there in Heaven and doesn’t like what they decide…

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    • He’ll getcha! And He needs no help from us. ,

    I certainly may not always agree with the reasoning of people who ‘jump the dyke,’ as the old Ulster phrase has it. But, if somebody converts in or out of a faith, I respect their decision.

    A recent example was the daughter-in-law of Indonesia’s President Jokowi, who abandoned her Christian religion to marry the President’s son. Nobody forced her to do this, so I respect her choice. If her groom had chosen to become a Christian, I’d have respected that too!

    Apostasy is nobody else’s concern.

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    • Now, back to the issue.
    • The opinion piece, titled “On Leaving Islam,” recounted the personal story of the narrator (whose name we will withold) growing up a devout (though moderate) Muslim in Pakistan, but later abandoning the faith as she learned more about the world.

    No need for me to go through the whole article. There’s the link if you want to do so.

    But what is utterly appalling is that a few days after the article was posted, it was taken down and replaced by a note from ‘Californian’ editor-in-chief Kimberly Veklerov that reads “This opinion blog has been retracted because of personal safety concerns.”

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      Unforthcoming Editor Veklerov

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    And this Veklerov woman is refusing to reveal what sort of threats, to whom, and from whom, these safety concerns arose.

    Certainly, if you read the article, you’ll have to agree that it was no hate-screed. The author declared an intention to share what I’ve learned about Islam over the years. I plan to defend it and give credit where it’s due.

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    • So my guess would be it’s not so much any personal or even theological content but the mere fact that this young person has thought seriously about Islam, then abandoned it.

    If a friend of mine gave up on the Protestant religion, in which I was raised, I’d be curious about his or her reasons. I might even debate them, in friendly fashion.

    But I wouldn’t be unpleasant to the apostate.

    And as for making physical threats – only a filthy savage would do that.

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    The full text of the article, without the author’s namecan be read here.

    But whilst writing all this, I came upon a petition, about a pastor, imprisoned by the evil regime in Iran.

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    \ Pastor Saeed Abedini with his family, before his imprisonment in Iran.

    This man has committed no crime understood as such by civilised human beings.

    He’s held prisoner for his religious beliefs. The pig-ignorant savages who have him want to force him into apostasy. Tehran does not tolerate people’s right to worship peacefully according to their conscience.

    Each day Iranian guards demand he recant his Christian faith and become Muslim. He is threatened with an extended sentence.

    I think we should support him.  

    Here’s the petition link.

    http://www.afa.net/action-alerts/tell-president-obama-get-christian-pastor-out-of-iranian-jail/

     

     
  • ross1948 11:10 pm on June 7, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 1000 lashes, , Badawi, , , , Islam, , , ,   

    We’re Fighting ISIS? While Saudi Savages Order 1000 Lashes On A BLOGGER? 


    News tonight from that cess-pool, Saudi Arabia, where a so-called court has upheld the savage sentence of ONE THOUSAND lashes for a blogger simply because of his views on religion.

    Oh, plus ten years in the satanic kingdom’s prisons!

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    devil_by_lucasgraciano-d5agjlm Saudi ‘iustice’ swoops on freedom

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    In 2012, Badawi was arrested and charged with “insulting Islam through electronic channels.”

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    Saudi blogger Raif Badawi
    Raif Badawi’s family have warned he could die if the 1,000 lashes are carried out

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     For four years he had been running the Liberal Saudi Network, which encouraged online debate on religious and political issues. Saudi court upholds blogger’s 10 years and 1,000 lashes – BBC

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    So instead of beating up on Syria’s ‘oppressive’ regime, will Obama, or Cameron (let’s not be silly and expect anything from the UN Human Rights Cr@p Commissars) DO anything about this outrageous atrocity?

    Insulting ANY religion should NEVER be a cause for prosecution, let alone ferocious punishment like this. 

    The Western world has gone to war with ISIS, for good reason – ISIS are evil sectarian swine cruelly tormenting helpless people.

    So will we now start air-strikes against Riyadh?

     
  • ross1948 10:40 am on May 24, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , Islam, , Javanese rhythm, , , , , recitation   

    Jokowi On Blasphemy Charge? Java Rhythm ‘Enflames’ Fanatics! 


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    President Jokowi has quite lot to contend with these days, both home and abroad, and even gets criticism from our blog from time to time.

    But a new clamour has arisen, from that ever-ready source of intolerance, the IslamoNazi FPI, the self-styled ‘Islam Defenders Front.’

    They want him PROSECUTED for blasphemy!

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    They’ve got their white-shirt knickers in a twist because last week’s State Palace celebration of the Islamic Ascension included Koranic readings in which the verses were recited with rhythms associated with Indonesia, rather than with Arabia.

    Given that the State Palace is located in Jakarta, capital city of Indonesia, a naive observer might see nothing amiss with this.

    Indeed, many observers, not at all naive, might raise a cheer, because it tends to be that minority of Muslims who pay much too much attention to backward Arab thnking who cause offence and disturbance.

    The more Indonesianised any Islamic activities become, surely the better for all concerned.

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    gus dur fasting

    ‘We Muslims should fast with respect for those not fasting.’

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    The late President Gud Dur was a fine example of how to apply Islamic standards in a Javanese (i.e.tolerant and civilised) manner. 

    Among those whose response suggests approval are that refreshing fellow, Lukman, about whom it would be uncharitable to say that he’s the best Minister of Religious Affairs since Suryadharma Ali.

    Truth to tell, my cat would have been an improvement  on Ali.

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    In fact, Lukman is an admirable man, who seems to be a person of genuine good character and goodwill to all men.

    Anyway, Lukman defended the use of Javanese rhythms at the palace, despite many who say such a manner of recitation is forbidden.

    “The purpose of reading the Koran with Java style is to keep and maintain the tradition of the archipelago in spreading the teachings of Islam in this country,” said Lukman on his personal Twitter account.

    http://utama.seruu.com/read/2015/05/20/249051/alquran-dibaca-dengan-langgam-jawa-fpi-tuntut-jokowi-lengser

    • ……………

    Today, how many Indonesians can afford to study Arabic in school, even supposing they can afford to go to school at all?

    Of couse, there are pesantren, the so-called ‘Islamic boarding schools,’ but while I’m prepared to concede that some of those are run by good people, a lot are NOT! Many are at best described as obscurantist!

    Lukman Slams Pesantren Fanatics – Can One Brave Man Slay The Hydra? 

    Others are much worse than that!

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    But Indonesia has a way to go before that kind of progress is conceivable. Having prayers in Bahasa Indonesia? Or Bahasa Jawa or Bahasa Sunda? Read about the police investigation into Muhammad Yusman Roy for conducting Islamic ritual prayers (shalat) in two languages, Arabic and Indonesian.   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2005/08/12/mui-fatwa-negates-freedom-religion-human-rights.html

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    Let’s just be glad for now that the Javanese rhythm is getting support.

    But not from some geezer called Saiful Islam Mubarak, who runs – yes, you guessed! – the Pesantren Tinggi Maqdis.

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    He reckons this step challenges the character of the Koran. 

    Lukman’s response is mild.

    “That’s understandable because this is something new and gives rise to diverse views…This is purely my own proposal… something positive with positive goals…,” said Lukman.

    BUT there’s no show without Punch!

    Lukman’s opinion enflamed the FPI!

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    • habib-fpi-rizieq Rizieq
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    • Their frantic fanatic fuhrer, Habib Rizieq, modestly demanded that “the President and the Minister repent and ask forgiveness before God, and apologize to all Muslims.

    ALL Muslims?

    Since when did this outlandish gang-leader speak for ALL Muslims?

    Jokowi’s a Muslim, Lukman’s a Muslim, and Lukman consulted various ulama (‘scholars’) prior to the recital.  

    But Rizieq’s having none of that archaic (and Javanese-style!) rubbish about respecting other’s views.

    “If not, they must be processed with the blasphemy law and ousted from office because of insulting the Koran. Legally, insulting the Koran is apostasy. An apostate cannot lead Muslims!” 

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    apocalypse-30 The end of the world…

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