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  • ross1948 10:02 pm on May 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Islamic clerics, , liberal 'values', ,   

    Stuff Your ‘Values,’ Theresa! 


    Just got home, and heard Theresa May tell us how cowardly the terrorist scum in Manchester are.

    All very true.

    Islamists are gutless scum, lower than a snake’s belly – we in Indonesia have seen them show their rancid, craven character often enough, whether at Cikeusik…

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    Cikeusik, Banten Province, February 6th, 2011. Watch the pigs at their bloody work on this link..   http://www.liveleak.com/view.

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    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

    …or Sukorejo.

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    IslamoNazis V Freedom-Fighters? – Some Chicken, Some Neck! 

    But what Mrs. May went on to say is an insult to the intelligence of every Brit who heard her.

    She went on to rant about ‘our values!’

    WHOSE values?

    We know that her values are NOT conservative values, despite her position as leader of the Conservative Party. They are, she herself told us recently, ‘LIBERAL ‘ values.

    World Needs Liberal Democratic Values – Theresa May

    And it’s THOSE rotten decadent ‘liberal’ values that have brought Britain, and other Western countries, to where we are today.

    Enough of liberalism.

    HANG THE VERMIN who commit these atrocities!

    • DEPORT THOSE WHO THINK SECTARIAN ALLEGIANCE TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER LOYALTY TO QUEEN AND COUNTRY.

    Any ‘cleric’ of any creed who declines to disown such treason from the pulpit this week should be banned from preaching…

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    …and scheduled for expulsion.

     

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    • Justine 10:53 pm on May 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I am delighted with this, Ross. you have cut through the nonsense and identified the real problem, liberalism.
      Let’s face it, listening to the BBC makes me feel like a pre-Gorbachev Russian reading Pravda, selective news chosen to promote the regime’s ideology.

      It’s all Kumbaya today, and good that people are trying to help, but why doesn’t the BBC do its job, instead of playing the establishment game, even hiding the name of the terrorist, when all over the world people already know that ‘suspected Manchester terrorist is 23-year-old Salman Abedi.’

      I have a few ideas on how to dispose of the corpse, and they aren’t nice, but it would be a useful way to see if these ‘Islamic spokesmen’ are sincere about saying the terrorist does not represent Islam.
      If that’s so, they can’t object if the body is fed to pigs, can they?

      • Cammy Crewe 7:08 pm on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        That, Justine, is a very reasonable point, about disposal of terrorist corpses.
        I remember how so many people who were telling us that Al Qaeda was nothing to do with true Islam suddenly began to act up about whether Bin Laden’s body was treated with appropriately Islamic respect,
        It seems that they like to pretend terrorism is an Un-Muslim activity until the terrorists are killed or caught.
        Then all kinds of Islamic rules must be applied..
        Who’d trust them?

    • Arnold 11:10 pm on May 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Wonderful words, Ross.
      I am so fed up with the whole bloody lot of them. Nobody wants to admit what the problem is, but we all know it and many of us have to see it every day, swaggering around our streets with their squaws in burkas..
      I’m in Canada, but I know its the same in England.
      Damn them and their ignorant customs, polygamy, FGM, sharia, all of it. We don’t want them in our country.
      Justin Turdeau is no true Canadian any more than his pro-terrorist father was so we Canadians expect no better,
      But Britain has a PM who calls herself conservative.
      If May really cared, she would kick them out. She will not, because she is no conservative but like you say a liberal and part of the problem.

    • Pamela 12:17 am on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Until people wake up to the truth that May will not make any change to the war strategy, along the lines you are proposing, nothing will improve.
      If we allow people who hate every single thing about our country to stay in our country, we can only expect more terror..
      It was May who declared her liberalism, and May who defended shariah law.
      I will not vote for her party.

  • ross1948 8:45 pm on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Will Indonesia Settle For ‘Fake Peace?’ 


    So President Jokowi welcomed some Muslim clerics to his palace, in order to get them ‘in line amid tension?’

    Jokowi gets clerics in line amid tension

    And one of them afterwards admirably told the media that- “As we live in a pluralistic country, we want real peace, not fake peace.” 

    But whatever that particular cleric meant meant by ‘fake peace’ -and who knows, for Pete’s sake – it’s a great pity that Lukman Hakim Saifuddin…

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    …Jokowi’s Minister for Religious Affairs, of whom many of us once had high hopes…

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     …admitted that the clerics had not specifically discussed sectarian issues plaguing the Jakarta election, as they were focusing on maintaining harmony across the country.

    It’s true that other blots on the country’s copy-book do exist, as our various reports have noted last year and this year…

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    …but the horrifying spectacle of Jakarta’s Christian Governor, Ahok, being put on trial, in the 21st century, for the mediaeval ‘crime’ of ‘blasphemy’ is surely THE outstanding example of what’s going wrong with this lovely archipelago.

    What would have been a refreshing outcome of the presidential conclave would have been a joint declaration by Jokowi and his guests that the ‘Mind-Set Revolution…’

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    President Jokowi

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    …which he promised in his hard-fought election, two years ago, has to include an end to timidity in confronting and defeating the backward brutes we have seen marching – shuffling, actually – through Jakarta, shrill savages demanding that Ahok be ‘burned.’

    Those ‘religious’ fanatics who howl for blood…


    “We encourage the government to process the death penalty for Ahok as soon as possible,” said Rizieq.  http://www.suara.com/news/2016/10/14/134313/

    …should be denounced, and no responsible citizen of any rank should share a platform with such sectarians.

    And what about the’Indonesian Council of Scholars?’

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    MUI’s splendid offices in Jakarta

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    The MUI should be isolated and denied a single rupiah of state funding, until the self-styled ‘scholars’ repudiate the primitive pronouncements we have heard from them, those awful voices extolling FGM as a ‘human right,’ or demanding that ‘adulterers’ should be whipped or even stoned.

    Ain’t Just Ahok – More Indonesian Dissenters Behind Bars! 

    What decent Indonesians, of all creeds, would surely cheer to hear is a clear, unambiguous assertion by all parties and every cleric with a commitment to a civilised democracy that it is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable to use, or incite others to use, violence, state-sponsored or not, against so-called ‘apostates’ or ‘blasphemers.’

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    • Such savages are not unique to Indonesia

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    Naturally, there are many – both politicians and clerics – who will not join in such denunciations.

    Anyone who wants to see a shariah state – whether they call it an ‘Islamic Republic’ or not – will not, cannot, be part of any ‘mind-set revolution.’

    They should be its targets.

    As for those who serve the caliphate cause, who would see their country subordinated to an alien authority located in Istanbul or Mosul or anywhere – is that not grounds for the police to look into treason charges?

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    Other Muslim countries have outlawed Hizbut Tahrir.

    The fact that some Western non-Muslim nations…

    Hizbut Tahrir UK – “When ‘Moderates’ Talk of Peace, They’re Lying!” 

    …lack the guts to do so should not hinder Indonesia in using legislation to express its abhorrence of subversive sectarian ideologies.

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  • ross1948 9:29 pm on January 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Courses for ‘Clerics?’ Worthless, If No Tests Included! 


    OK!

    One might wonder, if people are considered needful of instruction in the basic principles of democracy,  who vetted their entry into the country in the first place?


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    Hasil gambar untuk vetting?

    BUT anyway…  

    Italy’s Interior Ministry is preparing a course in common constitutional decencies for  ‘clerics’ operating within their borders.

    Participants will learn about Italy’s constitutional principles including freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and the right to have a place of worship and practise religion.

    Italy’s imams to get training on the Constitution

    That’s all well and good, but – apart from the fact that it’s only in some areas of Italy – …

    ‘Participants’ in our classes in high school were taught about such things as German/French grammar, how to use Bunsen Burners in science classes, historical events, and Shakespeare’s works.

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    • Or at least we studied them!
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    Whether we LEARNED them or not was established by tests and exams.

    So the same should apply to these lessons set by the Italian Government. Clerics enrolled  in the course – it’s not clear if enrolment is compulsory, as it no doubt should be – should face assessment!

    TESTS!

    Simple questions, for example –

    Do you reject as barbaric any suggestion that people who leave one religion to join another, or abandon religion altogether…

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    …should be subject to harm, threat of harm, or other anti-social victimisation?

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    Do you understand that only retards would offer threats of violence or actual violence towards those who mock your own or any other religion?

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    Behead-Prophet

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    Do you agree that it is disgusting and iniquitous for anyone to suggest that men may have more than one wife…

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    polygamy

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    …yet women should NOT have the right to enjoy more than one husband?

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    Do you agree that women should be free to dress as they please, subject to Italian law?

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    Do you agree that daughters should be entitled to the same share of inheritances as sons?

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    There are other questions that might be useful, but those, I think, make quite a good start! 

    The new courses are part of a €90,000 plan from the Interior Ministry to improve integration of Muslims in Italy.

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    All right.
    But let’s be fair.
    Not only Muslims should be registered for this learning process – the classes and the tests should be compulsory for all varieties of preachers, because, after all, there are unsavoury aspects to more than one creed.
    And the ‘graduates’ should be required, as part of their subsequent license to preach, to stand up regularly in pulpits and advise, warn and exhort their congregations to heed the basic lessons in the course.
    out with them
    Refusal to do so ought to result in their exclusion from pulpits, in mosques, temples and churches.
    And, one hopes, from Italy too.
    PS I re-read the article, and the move is not aimed solely at any one religion but at all denominations not registered  in Italy
     
    • Deirdre Kelly 3:35 pm on January 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Why do you say that not only Muslims need this course?
      I never heard of Lutherans or Buddhists saying that people who convert to other religions should be killed, or people who draw cartoons of Jesus or Buddha should be stabbed to death?
      Sounds like a waste of time to make every parson or priest enrol in this course, so exactly what’s your point? What dangers do other religions have for our society?.
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