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  • ross1948 11:16 pm on April 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Jokowi Islamist intolerance, , , VP USA   

    Mike Pence And His Nelson’s Eye – Never Saw Islamists’ Victims! 

    I didn’t get a chance to meet up with Mike Pence today, but I just read what he has been saying.

    “Indonesia’s tradition of moderate Islam frankly is an inspiration to the world and we commend you and your people. In your nation as in mine, religion unifies, it doesn’t divide.” http://www.independent.ie/world-news/mike-pence-praises-indonesias-tolerant-values-on-visit-to-jakarta-mosque-35638468.html

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    I wish he had had his talks with President Jokowi not today but last Sunday.

    If he’d been having lunch in the State Palace in Jakarta then, he might have looked out the window and seen the people I was standing beside.

    Oppressed Christians In The Street Heat, In Pluralist Indonesia 

    Then he might have made somewhat different comments than those reported in today’s media.

    From all accounts, the US Vice-President is a serious Christian and he could have asked his distinguished why those fellow-Christians had to hold their Easter Sunday Service on the street.


    Persecuted Protestants with Jokowi’s Palace in the background


    President Jokowi, being an honest man, would have had to reply that they are prevented from using their own church by vile Islamist bigots.

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    He might even have told his guest that Indonesia’s Supreme Court found in favour of the persecuted Christians, but that Indonesia’s Government has failed to enforce the ruling.

    All very sad, that VP Pence missed the chance to talk with some of the many victims of savage sectarian intolerance.

  • ross1948 9:27 pm on February 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Another Triumph For Islamist Bigotry In Indonesia! 

    Sad to see another triumph of intolerance in Indonesia, with Islamists gloating over the suppression of religious liberty in Depok.

    As we predicted yesterday – West Java – Depok’s Damnable Dreary Bigotry, Again!  – a mob of bigots descended on the Ahmadiyah mosque,as the peaceful minority was about to carry out their Friday prayers at the mosque, on Friday (24/2) afternoon.

    Bit of a waste of time, because  the equally bigoted City Government of Depok had already sealed the innocent dissenters’ house of worship.



    “There have been no reports of resistance at Ahmadiyah mosques when we sealed the place again,” he told local media on site. ‘However,’ he added, “if the seal was to be removed, there would be strict sanctions.”-Local cop, quoted in http://timesofahmad.blogspot.com.au/2017/02/indonesia-ahmadiyya-mosque-in-sawangan.html


    Depok’s record of intolerance is quite spectacular – if you want a laugh, read this one from a few years back.–Islamist Bigot Biter Bit in West Java  

     Among the sectarian mob this weekend was Abdullah Shafi, local Muhammadiyah notable.

    Massa Ormas Protes Masjid Ahmadiyah di Depok



    • muhammadiyah
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    • That pretty well finishes off any pretensions by Muhammadiyah to be a voice for ‘moderate’ Muslims. 
    • Shafi evidently felt no shame at all in keeping company with the notorious IslamoNazi FPI…


    Image result for fitria sumarni depok

    IslamoNazi white-shirts at Depok


    ….and the notorious FBR.

    There’s a few past posts about the FBR, which you can find via our ‘search’ box, just across to your right, but to facilitate your inspection of their bona fides…




    Right On, Ratna! Activist’s All-Out Attack on IslamoNazis 

    …try that one!


    Seems there were leaflets circulating among the rabble that essentially rejected the existence of Ahmadiyah and described it as a cult.

    Just to emphasise how infantile and vindictive they could be, the mob also asked Depok City Government to cut off electricity to the Ahmadiyya and urgently remove the contents from the Secretariat of the Ahmadiyah.




    • Since nobody in the Presidential Palace seems to have recalled President Jokowi’s previous call for minorities, in Depok or anywhere in Indonesia to be left unharassed – . Jokowi Urges Cops To Protect Minorities – in Depok – I’ll quote at length what the Ahmadis have said in response.
    • “Masjid Al-Hidayah has been established since 1999, is open to the public and already has a building permit (IMB) as a place of worship and our home since 2007.” 
    • Mubarak claimed that Ahmadiyah has been actively involved in social activities…staying in touch with leaders and scholars in Sawangan and has never violated any law.
    • “Forced Closure of mosques by the municipal government that bases itself on SKB 3 minister and derivatives to Perwali Depok on Ahmadiyah is not based on the correct rules..”
    • For new readers, that SKB# is the infamous and grotesquely discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree – .  http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom 
    • – an intolerant sectarian diktat issued under former President SBY…
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    • SBY…yes, he’s the man who wants a worldwide ‘blasphemy law!’
    • SBY to ask the world to ban blasphemy | The Jakarta Post
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    • “We deplore the attitude of Depok City Government, as discriminatory and does not carry out its duty to protect its citizens to practice their religion…the right to association and assembly are guaranteed by the state through the constitution…”
    • Ahamdiyah also asked for assertiveness from the President, through the Minister of Internal Affairs, to ensure the Depok City Government does not preclude the right to worship and assemble…
    • Ahmadis also ask police officers to ensure security and the activities of worship that group.
    • JazPen 9:51 am on February 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Its bad when there are so many really ‘moderate’ (sane) Muslims here in Indonesia but so few organisations that represent them.
      Muhammadiyah dont qualify and after that Gandaria City squall a few years ago, NU doesn’t have much credibility either.
      I think we have seen the best days of Indonesia unless Jokowi starts acting instead of just talking about pluralism..

  • ross1948 10:36 am on December 11, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bandung fanatic hoodlums, , , , , , Jokowi Islamist intolerance, , , President Joachim Gauck, ,   

    Hoffentlich, Herr Gauck Learned Lots From Jokowi! 

    Just heading out to meet somebody for lunch, but have been persuing the news, much of which I missed in recent days, due to a crowded partying schedule.

    So President Jokowi had a meeting with his German counterpart Joachim Gauck in Jakarta last week?


    Hasil gambar untuk gauck jokowi


    Whilst we must weigh Jokowi’s words about how Indonesia is an example of how Islam, democracy and tolerance could go hand in hand. against his actions, or inactions – the government’s refusal to enforce the Supreme Court ruling on the right of West Java’s Christians to worship unmolested in their own churches….

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    ….and Jokowi’s failure to repeal the infamous Tri-Ministerial Decree that grotesquely discriminates against the Ahmadis, I still believe he is personally tolerant.


    But alas, there is shocking intolerance, notably expressed recently in Bandung, where a Christian pre-Christmas service was broken up by IslamoNazi hoodlums –http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/12/10/christians-in-indonesia-refuse-to-give-in-to-fear.html

    – and not that long ago in Jakarta itself…

    Grovelling Gramedia’s BookBurning Bonanza – Appeasing Fanatics 

    • burning booksGramedia’s Hitlerite book-burning

    • …………………..

    ….when a major publishing company, Gramedia, enthusiastically joined in a Hitlerian bookburning staged by Islamist fanatics.

    But since we’re told the chat encompassed democracy too, Jokowi may have had something to teach Herr Gauck, on that subject – because they also discussed the issue of the death penalty… 

    While rape and murder at the hands of undesirable aliens has been hitting the headlines in Germany this year –Police Chief Blames Merkel Migrant Policy for Teenage Girl Murder – Mama Stasi’s Government has ignored one obvious step to take to deal with such atrocities.




    On capital punishment, she is morally obliged at least to give German voters a referendum on the subject.

    Jokowi’s determination to retain the death penalty is safely anchored in the overwhelmingly support for proper punishments among Indonesians of walks of life, except perhaps some media creeps and ‘intellectuals.’

    It’s just a pity he doesn’t use it more often, on terrorists…

    In Indonesia – Time To Re-Start Terrorist Executions! 

    …instead of narrowly focusing on drug crime. 

    Who knows, the German visitor may have gone home with fresh insights into how democracy works. At the moment, it’s not working very well in Germany. 


    In his statement, President Gauck said Jokowi was a progressive President who had moved Indonesia’s politics and economy forward.  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/04/19/jokowi-meets-with-german-president-discusses-death-penalty.html

    • Max G 10:19 pm on December 11, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      You make a logical case, Ross, if Jokowi wants to shoot the drug-smugglers, why not also shoot the terrorists

      The problem seems to be that he likes to keep in with those very unpleasant gents in the MUI and after we saw him bowing to Mr. Rizieq at Monas, you can’t honestly tell us that our esteemed president is about to do anything to upset the religious extremists here.

    • JazPen 12:16 am on December 12, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Still shaming Gramedia I see, Ross and good on you for doing that.
      I try never to use their stores because every time i see their adverts i think of Nazi book burners and that’s thanks to your blog. I hope your reminders affect a lot of people the same way because Gramedia deserve it,

    • Astuti 2:38 pm on December 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Long weekend in my province with no internet so I only now read this and I agree so much.
      It is sad that Jokowi is not to stand up for religious freedom like we were thinking he was.
      The Gramedia story I did hear before and will be happy to forgive if they say sorry but they never apologize so I will not do shopping there anymore.
      Gramedia bosses do not understand Indonesia Pancasila.
      Also I agree that terorist should die. They all same like ISIS only hate other people so we must send them fast to God but punish them here first to get them to God fast..

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