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  • ross1948 1:08 pm on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    “Mohon Ma’af?” Blasphemous Brutes Vandalise Depok Mosque! 


    Mohon ma’af, ‘ is a common addition to Idul Fitri greetings here, people asking forgiveness for any wrongs they’ve done in the past year.

    I wonder if certain blasphemous bigots in Depok will walk over to the Ahmadi Mosque they vandalised this weekend….

    The vandals, who used motorcycles, threw eggs and paint at the mosque’s yard and front and back gates. “They also threw eggs at the mosque’s CCTV cameras so their actions would not be recorded,” Fatiatulo Lazira, a lawyer with the team, said. They also placed a banner expressing animosity toward Ahmadiyah near the mosque.

    ….and seek forgiveness.

    I doubt it. Islamist bigots have no conscience recognisable to normal human beings.

    I recall that evil mass-murderer, Imam Samoedra, one of the Bali Bomb Pigs..

      

    Imam Samoedra, with his two satanic co-killers

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    …being asked by a naive journo prior to his well-deserved execution, if he would be asking forgiveness.

    ‘Why would I ask forgiveness from kafir,’ was the monster’s retort.

    So no repentance likely among the backward beasts in Depok either, where the vandalised Ahmadi mosque had already been shut down by the sectarian local government’s goon-squad.

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    Hasil gambar untuk masjid ahmadiyah depok

    The mosque has been sealed off by the Depok administration seven times, with the most recent occurring on June 4.

    Nor is there any news from President Jokowi, who likes to talk about Indonesia’s pluralism, about any plan to repeal the notorious Tri-Ministerial Decree.

    The Ahmadis have long been persecuted in the country, with the government issuing a joint ministerial decree banning their activities in 2008.http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/24/ahmadiyah-mosque-in-depok-vandalized-ahead-of-idul-fitri.html

    At least the JP report has a few words on the source of  much of Indonesia’s intolerance, reminding us that it was the MUI’s dogmatic decree…

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    The  2005 Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) fatwa declaring the teachings of Ahmadiyah heretical

    which bigot bureaucrats  have used to shut down religious liberty in dismal Depok – more than once!

    I do suspect, however, that ‘heretical’  – and utterly inoffensive and peaceful  – Ahmadis today are saying ‘mohon ma’af’ for any little mistakes they have made, over the past 12 months, in good conscience, knowing that they have done nothing wrong in wishing to worship God Almighty in their own honourable way.

     

     
    • Kezia 8:49 pm on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      The MUI must ‘seek forgiveness,’ just like you say.
      Depok kampung criminals who attack the mosque are stupid with no education but MUI are older and not stupid only mean and full with intolerance. So many mean things happen after the MUI fatwa.
      Why will President Jokowi not protect Ahmadiyya people.
      The Ahmadi do no harm.

    • Tyas 2:34 pm on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      And I agree with you Kezia, the MUI always make me feel like why do they shame our country.
      We since 1945 like to have freedom for all religion.groups.
      MUI do not.
      Eventhough I am Muslim

  • ross1948 8:55 am on June 9, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Shadow Of Islamist Intolerance Darkens Depok Once Again 


    It’s not as if we haven’t looked into the ugly face of Islamist intolerance in Depok scores of times, sometimes with a grimace at the antics of those involved Islamist Bigot Biter Bit in West Java 

    But at other times one has to feel nothing but contempt for the mean-spirited oppression of the inoffensive and utterly blameless Ahmadiyah religious minority.

    Sadly, the latest news falls into the latter category, nothing to smile about as sectarian bigotry blights the city yet again.

    The Mayor of Depok thinks it’s acceptable to hammer religious liberty in his dismal city, apparently to meet the demands of “certain groups that pressured him into forbidding Ahmadiyah followers from carrying out their worship activities in Depok.”

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    Mayor Mohamed Idris sent in his goon-squad, the SatPol PP – civic militia – and now the Ahmadis’ Al-Hidayah Mosque has been sealed.

    One government flunkey tries to justify suppression of religious liberty by invoking the locals’ numbskull bigotry.

    fDepok National and Political Unity Agency head Dadang Wihana argued that the closure was aimed at maintaining a peaceful situation and to protect the Ahmadis themselves, saying that the locals had felt disturbed by their presence and they might incite conflicts.  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/08/ahmadis-plan-lawsuit-against-depok-administration.html

     One might think it’s numbskulls, like those who can’t observe other people’s ways of worship without getting ‘disturbed, that deserve the attentions of the SatPol PP.

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    The militia is equipped with sturdy batons which might knock some sense into those numb skulls!

    It’s fairly nauseating to be back on the subject of religious liberty in Depok, West Java, yet again.

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    It’s especially offensive because Ramadhan is meant to be a holy month of reflection and introspection, not persecution, but the authorities in Depok clearly care little for soul-searching and much more for witch-hunting.  

    Ahmadiyah spokesman Yendra Budiana said that the National Commission on Human Rights (Komnas HAM) and the National Commission on Violence Against Women (Komnas Perempuan) had urged the mayor to not restrict religious freedom…  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/04/authorities-allegedly-seal-ahmadiyah-mosque-in-depok.html

    But decent people versus ‘certain groups?’

    Not much of a contest in Dark Age Depok.

    The Ahmadis are now talking lawsuit, but if the powerful Governor of Jakarta can be sent to prison for quoting an Islamic verse, what chance do a small congregation of humble folk persecuted in Depok have?

    Important question – who are these ‘certain groups?’

    Neither the Ahmadi leader nor the Jakarta Post seem up to telling us. Ahmadis, of course, have faced murderous persecution…

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    Islamist beasts at their bloody work in Cikeusik

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    … notably at Cikeusik six years ago, when three of them were martyred by a mob of Islamist savages. They have reasons to be wary.

    But it’s surely the Jakarta Post’s job to report properly and seek out the ‘certain groups?

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    Sectarian gangsters need to be exposed, not covered for, although there’s a pretty good bet that it’s IslamoNazis at work again.

    Which particular gang? I don’t know, and I haven’t got the resources the newspapers have to find out.

    If I had, I’d try.

    Has the JP tried?

    Doubt it.

     
  • ross1948 12:02 am on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Happy Pancasila Day – Is ‘Brotherhood’ Worth A Hundred Yard Walk? 


    It’s Pancasila Day, a new public holiday in Indonesia, declared by President Jokowi to promote the pluralist vision of the nation’s founding fathers, who had no time for the Islamist bigotry which is increasingly blighting this lovely country.

    The national ideology is all about unity in diversity, and although I myself have no work to go to, being happily retired from the daily routine, I shall enjoy the relaxation thus mandated.

    Pak Presiden wants everyone to feel as if they are ‘brothers’ and we might assume he agrees with his son, Kaeseng, who’s reported in the Jakarta Post to have published these admirable sentiments.

    “We need to work together to build a better Indonesia, not by slandering each other or claiming others as infidels. Moreover, there was campaign to not provide proper burial rites to Muslims on the basis of voting preferences, how did that come about?”http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/05/29/kaesang-criticizes-viral-video-of-children-chanting-hate-speech-calls-for-tolerance.html

    Wonderful words, but how about deeds?

    How about some Sunday morning, this Ramadhan month, Jokowi emerges from his palace downtown and walks a hundred yards across the road…

    With Jokowi’s Palace in the background, the victims of Islamist evil proclaim their faith

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    Oppressed Christians In The Street Heat, In Pluralist Indonesia 

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    …to where his persecuted Christian brothers and sisters are forced to worship by the roadside because intolerant Islamists have sealed their churches in West Java.

    “We are Indonesia, we live in diversity,” says Kaeseng.

    It would be a fine reaffirmation of that principle if his illustrious Dad joined the victims of sectarianism…

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    …and ordered his National Police Chief to enforce the Supreme Court ruling that the GKI Yasmin congregants have every right to access their church and use it to practise the religious liberty that Indonesia’s Constitution affords them.

     
    • Sleman.tiro 6:46 am on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Good and so many people here think same.

    • Fitri 8:15 am on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I think you have a good idea for the President.
      If he will go to the Yasmin church peoples worship service he will show everyone he care for freedom of religion

    • Irwan 10:10 am on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Very good.
      I agree every Indonesian should be free to worship.

    • Wulandari 4:40 pm on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      A good idea and I hope he will take the walk to join them.
      They are our brother and sister because they are Indonesian same like we are.
      Happy Pancasila Day to you too, Ross

  • ross1948 9:12 am on May 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Why Should Indonesia Answer To ‘Rights’ Hypocrites? 


    The UN Human Rights Universal Periodic Review (UPR) workgroup concluded a discussion on Wednesday (03/05) of a human rights report submitted by Indonesia. It advised the country on sustainable efforts to improve and protect human rights.

    http://jakartaglobe.id/news/un-praises-indonesia-for-human-rights-improvements/

    It’s bizarre that Indonesia’s Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi felt obliged to talk about ‘rights’ to a collection of UN sticky-beaks which, when last we checked, included countries in which any kind of rights are a sad sick joke –

    -like Saudi Arabia, misruled by the shariah code, hence a stranger to civilised values, let alone ‘rights!’

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    And Red China, a totalitarian tyranny devoid of democracy since the tragedy of communist take-over in 1949.

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    And Retno’s colleague, Justice Minister Yasonna Laoly, was revelling in the fact that ‘‘there was a strong message that each delegation appreciated Indonesia’s progress, efforts and commitment to complete the challenges in human rights protection.”

    I’m certainly not saying Indonesia has an untainted record on certain issues.

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    Minster Retno

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    Retno told the media that her delegation had elaborated on several thematic human rights clusters – a bizarre turn of phrase, that, but never mind.

    What is more intriguing was the inclusion among those ‘clusters’ of ‘warranties on religious freedom!’

    Until the government in which Retno serves scraps the viciously discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree…

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    http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom

    …and enforces the Supreme Court ruling in favour of the persecuted GKI Yasmin Christians –

    Oppressed Christians In The Street Heat, In Pluralist Indonesia 

     –  she needs to consider her words carefully when talking about ‘religious freedom.’

    For many tormented Christians  – Christ’s Ascension Day – Islamist Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks  – in Indonesia, as for Ahmadis, religious freedom is a mere dream.

    And what about the nightmare Jakarta’s Governor Ahok is currently undergoing, awaiting a verdict in the ‘blasphemy’ trial.

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    How on earth can any country in this millennium  purport to have any interest in religious freedom when a clearly good man can be hauled into court for ‘offending’ fanatics by quoting a Koranic verse?

    Blasphemy? Rizieq Should NOT Be Prosecuted – Nor Ahok! 

    Real blasphemy is visible among the swarm of Islamist bigots, invoking the Name of God Almighty as they shuffled through Jakarta yesterday  – and repeatedly in recent months –Will Five MILLION Fanatics March This Friday! Jakarta Nightmare!  –  many of them howling like rabid wolves for Ahok to be put to death.

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    The protesters, most of whom were men dressed in white Muslim attire, were heard yelling, “We want a Muslim governor,” “Burn Ahok!” and “Kafir!”   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/10/14/thousands-hard-liners-march-against-ahok.htm

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    I see Retno and Yasonna also explained Indonesia’s legal policies to the forum, regarding the death penalty…

    Instead of explaining it to this panel of wannabe meddlers, better they talk to President Jokowi and urge him to do something about the ludicrously soft sentences meted out to swine convicted of terrorist offences here in Indonesia.

    No great fan of his predecessor SBY, I have to say that at least he presided over the execution of the Bali Bomb Pigs.

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    A lot of us have waited a long time to break out the beer and bacon sandwiches and celebrate a few more jihadist scumbags getting sent to Hell.

    But meantime, if Indonesia told the UN to take their double-standards and stick ’em where the sun never shines, that too would merit a raised glass.

     
  • ross1948 11:16 pm on April 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Mike Pence And His Nelson’s Eye – Never Saw Islamists’ Victims! 


    I didn’t get a chance to meet up with Mike Pence today, but I just read what he has been saying.

    “Indonesia’s tradition of moderate Islam frankly is an inspiration to the world and we commend you and your people. In your nation as in mine, religion unifies, it doesn’t divide.” http://www.independent.ie/world-news/mike-pence-praises-indonesias-tolerant-values-on-visit-to-jakarta-mosque-35638468.html


    Gambar terkait

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    I wish he had had his talks with President Jokowi not today but last Sunday.

    If he’d been having lunch in the State Palace in Jakarta then, he might have looked out the window and seen the people I was standing beside.

    Oppressed Christians In The Street Heat, In Pluralist Indonesia 

    Then he might have made somewhat different comments than those reported in today’s media.

    From all accounts, the US Vice-President is a serious Christian and he could have asked his distinguished why those fellow-Christians had to hold their Easter Sunday Service on the street.

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    Persecuted Protestants with Jokowi’s Palace in the background

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    President Jokowi, being an honest man, would have had to reply that they are prevented from using their own church by vile Islamist bigots.

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    He might even have told his guest that Indonesia’s Supreme Court found in favour of the persecuted Christians, but that Indonesia’s Government has failed to enforce the ruling.

    All very sad, that VP Pence missed the chance to talk with some of the many victims of savage sectarian intolerance.

     
  • ross1948 4:54 pm on April 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Oppressed Christians In The Street Heat, In Pluralist Indonesia 


    Just got home, late afternoon, and it’s still hot outdoors.

    Every year, every other week, these brave, persecuted Christians have been worshipping on Jakarta’s street, forced to do so because the Government of Indonesia will not enforce a ruling from their own Supreme Court.

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    Two weeks ago, the pre-Easter Service, across the street from President Jokowi’s Palace

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    The endless torment of these innocent people is an affront to anyone with a sense of justice. But the engrained Islamist intolerance among many here, not most but many, has to be seen and heard to be believed.

    Take the ‘moderate’ Mayor of Bogor, where the GKI Yasmin congregation’s sealed church is located.

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    His predecessor was a frothing fanatic, and when Bima Arya was elected a couple of years ago, a lot of us seriously thought this might herald a new era of religious liberty.

    Instead, we had to publish the reality, under this headline.

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    So today, Easter Sunday, off I went to show solidarity on the roadside opposite President Jokowi’s Palace.

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    Persecuted Protestants begin worship.

    I took these two photos (above and below) myself today- sorry if they’re not high quality.

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    The sign records the sadfact that this is the 142nd time they’ve been here on the street, instead of their own church, which was sealed by vicious sectarian bigots

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    It’s been the practice of these oppressed Christians to reserve one of their little plastic seats for Jokowi, in case he cares enough to join them.

    But, presumably to underline his oft-proclaimed commitment to plurlism and religious liberty, he’s never crossed the street to join them…

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    Rizieq, far left, Jokowi with microphone

    So Has Indonesia Come To This? Paradise Lost? 

    …an interesting contrast with his readiness to appear on the same platform with the blood-thirsty Islamist Habib Rizieq not long ago.

     

     

     
  • ross1948 9:06 am on March 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Ain’t Just Ahok – More Indonesian Dissenters Behind Bars! 


    While the strange spectacle of a 21st Century ‘blasphemy trial’ rumbles on in Jakarta, with the city’s Christian Governor Ahok facing a possible five year sentence for a humorous quip about a Koranic verse – yes, seriously!..

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    Governor Ahok

    “We encourage the government to process the death penalty for Ahok as soon as possible,” said Rizieq

    Good Muslims Speak Up For Threatened Christian Governor 

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    …there’s more bleak news for those of us who love Indonesia.

    In another Jakarta court, three men arrested for their involvement in the Gafatar movement, whose activities we have covered over recent years, most recently when we wrote the following…


    GAFATAR_GERAKAN_FAJAR_NUSANTARA_33‘Movement of the Indonesian Dawn’

    We posted on them last year, when some other cops collaborated with a mob of FPI thugs in another Indonesian province. https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/islamonazis-arrest-alleged-defamers-cops-collaborate/

    Gafatar is abundantly law-abiding and has made every effort to comply with local laws.

    “They have sought a permit to be able to conduct their group activities but I have not given it to them,” Johannis said.

    Why not?

    Johannis said their initial surveillance showed that the group was aimed at unifying differences in the country while mixing up several religious teachings.

    Oh, well, we can’t have that sort of nonsense, can we?

    Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty” 

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    …have been sent to prison because – wait for it  – they had “contradicted and offended Islamic values held by most Indonesian citizens.”   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/03/07/gafatar-leaders-sentenced-to-years-in-prison-for-blasphemy.html

    One is tempted to say, so what?

    Indonesia’s current head of state, President Jokowi, often tells us how his country, ‘the largest Muslim democracy in the world,’ is ‘pluralist and tolerant.’

    “Our constitutional system honors and guarantees diversity and pluralism and it is our task to preserve these..”

    Pluralism Guaranteed by Constitution, says Jokowi

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    Many people had hoped that his campaign slogan ‘A Mind-Set Revolution,’ would herald a break from the oppressive attitudes that prevailed under his predecessor President SBY…

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    …who had actually suggested that Indonesia’s ‘blasphemy law’ be replicated WORLDWIDE!

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    Among other considerations, the court noted that prayers were not obligatory in the belief of the Gafatar movement, while the religion’s holy book said prayers were obligatory.

    So?

    No dissent from Islamic dogma allowed?

    And the court’s other excuse for jailing these harmless men?

    The judges also pointed to local rejection of the Gafatar movement’s activities in a settlement they had established in Mempawah, Central Kalimantan, as evidence that their belief was disturbing to other people.  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/03/07/gafatar-leaders-sentenced-to-years-in-prison-for-blasphemy.html

    So what, again?

    If some people get ‘disturbed’ because they hear opinions different from their own, those ‘disturbed’ would be well advised to grow up – sit down with Gafatar to debate these issues, or better still –

    MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS!

    But minding one’s own business, in matters of religious liberty, is a concept foreign to the outfit which needs to be recognised as the driving force behind the slither into a Dark Age.

    MUI-Indonesia

    Yup, you guessed it. Not a government department at all!

    The power to veto religious liberty lies, in this ‘tolerant pluralist’ land, with the Islamist self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI, the Indonesian Council of Ulemas!.

    “If the East Nusa Tenggara MUI does not recognize this group, this Gafatar group, then the government will ask law enforcers to disband the organization and take their leaders to justice,” he said.

    http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/east-nusa-tenggara-police-to-monitor-deviant-religious-group/567244

    Yes, the same MUI whence these enlightened words emanated.

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    It was MUI’s Deputy Chair, Ma’aruf, who kindly advised everyone that FGM is a ‘human right!’  

     https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/clitoral-clip-no-scraping-suffices-tell-us-islamist-scholars-why-do-it/

    And here’s another of their ‘scholars’ talking. 

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    Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta

    “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
     http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

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    God Save Indonesia from Islamist intolerance!

     
    • Wanita Jogja 4:58 pm on March 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Gafatar should be punished if they are doing something bad but there is no evidence for that.
      This sentence to prison for disagreeing with MUI is so unjust.
      Indonesia is going the wrong way faster and faster.
      I am glad you love our country more than the Islamists extremists do. They only want to change us into Arabs.
      Terima kasih banyak

    • JazPen 9:25 am on March 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      All good points, from Wanita Jogja and from you too Ross. Nothing in the press reports to justify why these men are in jail except that they disagree with one religions doctrines.
      Its a blot on Indonesia’s already blotted record and wont reassure people already worrying about whats happening to the country.

  • ross1948 9:27 pm on February 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Another Triumph For Islamist Bigotry In Indonesia! 


    Sad to see another triumph of intolerance in Indonesia, with Islamists gloating over the suppression of religious liberty in Depok.

    As we predicted yesterday – West Java – Depok’s Damnable Dreary Bigotry, Again!  – a mob of bigots descended on the Ahmadiyah mosque,as the peaceful minority was about to carry out their Friday prayers at the mosque, on Friday (24/2) afternoon.

    Bit of a waste of time, because  the equally bigoted City Government of Depok had already sealed the innocent dissenters’ house of worship.

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    “There have been no reports of resistance at Ahmadiyah mosques when we sealed the place again,” he told local media on site. ‘However,’ he added, “if the seal was to be removed, there would be strict sanctions.”-Local cop, quoted in http://timesofahmad.blogspot.com.au/2017/02/indonesia-ahmadiyya-mosque-in-sawangan.html

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    Depok’s record of intolerance is quite spectacular – if you want a laugh, read this one from a few years back.–Islamist Bigot Biter Bit in West Java  

     Among the sectarian mob this weekend was Abdullah Shafi, local Muhammadiyah notable.

    Massa Ormas Protes Masjid Ahmadiyah di Depok

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    • That pretty well finishes off any pretensions by Muhammadiyah to be a voice for ‘moderate’ Muslims. 
    • Shafi evidently felt no shame at all in keeping company with the notorious IslamoNazi FPI…

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    IslamoNazi white-shirts at Depok

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    ….and the notorious FBR.

    There’s a few past posts about the FBR, which you can find via our ‘search’ box, just across to your right, but to facilitate your inspection of their bona fides…

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    Right On, Ratna! Activist’s All-Out Attack on IslamoNazis 

    …try that one!

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    Seems there were leaflets circulating among the rabble that essentially rejected the existence of Ahmadiyah and described it as a cult.

    Just to emphasise how infantile and vindictive they could be, the mob also asked Depok City Government to cut off electricity to the Ahmadiyya and urgently remove the contents from the Secretariat of the Ahmadiyah.

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    • Since nobody in the Presidential Palace seems to have recalled President Jokowi’s previous call for minorities, in Depok or anywhere in Indonesia to be left unharassed – . Jokowi Urges Cops To Protect Minorities – in Depok – I’ll quote at length what the Ahmadis have said in response.
    • “Masjid Al-Hidayah has been established since 1999, is open to the public and already has a building permit (IMB) as a place of worship and our home since 2007.” 
    • Mubarak claimed that Ahmadiyah has been actively involved in social activities…staying in touch with leaders and scholars in Sawangan and has never violated any law.
    • “Forced Closure of mosques by the municipal government that bases itself on SKB 3 minister and derivatives to Perwali Depok on Ahmadiyah is not based on the correct rules..”
    • For new readers, that SKB# is the infamous and grotesquely discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree – .  http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom 
    • – an intolerant sectarian diktat issued under former President SBY…
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    • SBY…yes, he’s the man who wants a worldwide ‘blasphemy law!’
    • SBY to ask the world to ban blasphemy | The Jakarta Post
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    • “We deplore the attitude of Depok City Government, as discriminatory and does not carry out its duty to protect its citizens to practice their religion…the right to association and assembly are guaranteed by the state through the constitution…”
    • Ahamdiyah also asked for assertiveness from the President, through the Minister of Internal Affairs, to ensure the Depok City Government does not preclude the right to worship and assemble…
    • Ahmadis also ask police officers to ensure security and the activities of worship that group.
     
    • JazPen 9:51 am on February 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Its bad when there are so many really ‘moderate’ (sane) Muslims here in Indonesia but so few organisations that represent them.
      Muhammadiyah dont qualify and after that Gandaria City squall a few years ago, NU doesn’t have much credibility either.
      I think we have seen the best days of Indonesia unless Jokowi starts acting instead of just talking about pluralism..

  • ross1948 3:08 pm on December 12, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    Indonesia’s Oppressed Won’t Get The Xmas They Deserve! 


     Will President Jokowi restore religious liberty as a Christmas present to his persecuted Protestant fellow-citizens?

    I had been planning to write something on this but a local media report reminded me to stop idling during this public holiday (The Prophet Mohammed’s Birthday!) and get on with it!

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    Human rights activist Todung Mulya Lubis said he was seriously disappointed with the the human rights agenda in two years of Joko Widodo/Jusuf Kalla leadership.

    During these two years, the government has not managed to resolve any cases of past human rights.

    “We were somewhat disappointed by the non-realization of the human rights agenda,” said Todung

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    Todung

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    Todung was one of the compilers of the Jokowi-JK legal agenda when the two ran for office in the 2014 presidential election.

    At that time, human rights activists had high hopes for Jokowi to resolve cases of past human rights violations.

    http://nasional.kompas.com/read/2016/12/10/08193211/todung.mulya.lubis.kecewa.terhadap.agenda.ham.pemerintah


    freedom-of-religion

    Can’t quarrel with the man!

    Despite clear-cut rulings, as far up the line as the Supreme Court, the President has failed to enforce those court decrees.

    So the Christian congregants of Bogor’s GKI Yasmin and Bekasi’s HKBP Filadelfia continue to worship, in rain or baking heat, across the road from his palace in downtown Jakarta.

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    Praying, the persecuted people face the palace of the man who won’t enforce his own high court’s order

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    • Every second Sunday, they show up to sing and preach and pray on the street there, a standing condemnation of the government’s lack of commitment to the pluralism Jokowi likes to boast about.
    • The media don’t any longer report it much. Every so often some reporter takes notice, like this, a few months ago.

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    Bona Sigalingging 2

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    …until now, our two churches are outlawed in Bogor and Bekasi,  still sealed illegally by two local governments and no remedy from the central government,” said Bona Sigalingging, a spokesman for GKI Yasmin, in front of Merdeka palace in Jakarta…

    http://www.tabloidpodium.com/berita-77-hari-jelang-natal-2016-gki-yasmin-dan-hkbp-filadelfia-masih-disegel-.html .

    I must calculate when their next service is due and try to attend it. Whatever, I’ll do my best to drop by on Christmas Day.

    It will, I gather, be the 120th time they’ve had to worship this way.

    Hard to believe any country could do this to their own people, but if you recall the vile savagery…

    Christ’s Ascension Day – Islamist Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks 


    devil destroyed


    …and rancid hypocrisy in the neighbourhoods concerned…

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘ModerateMayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    ….it is sadly not surprising. 

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    • Santi 1:13 pm on December 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      It is so wrong they cannot worship in their church but must stand or sit in the street like beggar.The president better to tell police to open the church and protect the Christian people.

    • Astuti 3:13 pm on December 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Very bad what is done to Christians and Ahmadi people here and I will go to join with them on Christmas Daty eventhough i am not same religion.

  • ross1948 8:31 pm on November 16, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , Jokowi religious liberty, ,   

    Solidarity With REAL Refugees – Some Musings From Jakarta! 


    TEMPO.CO, Jakarta – President Joko Widodo reaffirmed on Saturday that Indonesia`s constitution honors and guarantees the values of diversity and pluralism.

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    jokowi

    “Our constitutional system honors and guarantees diversity and pluralism and it is our task to preserve these,” he said before thousands of people at a prayer event.  http://en.tempo.co/read/news/2016/11/12/055819793/Pluralism-Guaranteed-by-Constitution-says-Jokowi

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    The Ahmadi religious minority here are blameless, but have long been subjected to violent assault, arson and even murder, three of them martyred by evil sectarians, in Cikeusik five years ago.

    ,

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    Scenes from Cikeusik

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

    Only last month an Ahmadi leader, Mirajuddin Sahid, has reminded us, speaking in Jogjakarta, that “up to the present time the government has not been serious about protecting Ahmadis.”

    The Jakarta Post quotes him as saying that the ‘worst’ example of religious persecution was the fate of the 119 Ahmadi families in West Nusa Tenggara who years ago had been evicted from their homes.  

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/10/31/ahmadiyah-leaders-demand-government-protection.html

    These completely inoffensive Ahmadis have been treated abominably.

    Unlike many so-called ‘refugees’ in Europe, these people are genuine. And what’s most shocking of all is that they are ‘refugees’ IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY! 

    Readers who have followed the story will recall they were driven out of their island home after ferocious attacks by Islamist brutes….

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    ahmadis transito 
    Savages – or, as UK’s Amber Rudd might say – ‘unaccompanied minors’  – in Lombok destroy Ahmadi homes -100 cops just watched

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    …mob rule unhindered by about one hundred police who could easily have subdued the rabble but declined to do so.

    The victims ended up in a shelter in Mataram, the Wisma Transito building –


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    In Squalid Internal Exile, Lombok Ahmadis Denied Voting Rights 

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    And they’re still there!

    Take a look at those children in the photo – and please note, unlike the strapping men of military age being sneaked into Britain by Rudd’s rogue Home Office flunkeys, those kids in Mataram ARE, (or at least were, when the pic was taken) ACTUALLY kids – the picture was taken at least five years ago. They WILL be adults soon, a lot of them – some of them must be already!

    Their parents were denied basic rights, even, as in our previous post, above, the right to vote. Have those young folks fared any better since that poignant picture was taken?

    What a way to treat people, adults or children, simply because of how they worship God Almighty.

    Brits please note, the evil that pursues them now reaches all the way to the UK!

    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2016/08/09/sectarian-pig-gets-less-than-life-at-least-arrest-its-fans/

    The Ahmadi leader, Mirajuddin Sahid, rightly condemns this situation.

    “They have been staying there for the last 10 years and the government still does nothing about it!”

    Where are the hundred thousand marchers protesting in Jakarta’s streets about this outrageous situation? 

    Those Islamist fanatics aimed to bend the Indonesian justice system to their will, and today Jakarta’s Christian Governor has been named a suspect for ‘blasphemy’ by the police.

    We haven’t forgotten how the ‘blasphemy’ law has been used by Islamist bigots elsewhere in Indonesia to persecute dissenters. Think of Tajul Muluk, the harmless Shia cleric, convicted for practising his own faith in East Java.

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    tajulTajul, one of Indonesia’s prisoners of conscience https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/indonesia-shariah-fanatics-howl-for-blood/

    Which century is Indonesia living in, the 21st…

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    witch_bgstart

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    …or the 12th?

    • What is the Indonesian justice system doing for the Ahmadi refugees?

     

    Ahmadiyah burned Koran in Cisalada

    Ahmadi Koran burned by Islamists in Cisalada, 2011

    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/west-java-islamists-again-attack-ahmadis-blame-foreign-journos/

    • Oh, and I see Fadli Zon was quick to describe the police decision to name Ahok a ‘blasphemy’ suspect as a ‘relief.’

    To whom?


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    Fadli Zon, with a friend he found in the USA

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    We covered Fadli’s declaration of ‘open house’ at the Indonesian Parliament buildings a week or so ago. The Deputy Speaker was eager to offer accommodation to Islamist extremists who’d come into Jakarta for the fanatic demo which ended in shocking violence that awful Friday night.

    Will Fadli Open ‘The People’s House” To Jakarta’s Homeless? 

    We asked if he would be equally hospitable to people who genuinely need somewhere to sleep, like Jakarta’s homeless.

    I didn’t expect a response, nor did I get one.

    But now I am reminded of an even more pressing case that ought to stir Fadli’s charitable instincts, namely, those Ahmadi refugees.

    Fadli Zon justified his offer to let intolerant extremists sleep over in the House of Representatives by saying it’s the ‘house of the people.’

    The Ahmadi refugees in Transito are just as much the people as those jihadists. They are undoubtedly better citizens, who believe in the pluralism of which President Jokowi has been boasting. 

    Will Fadli summon them  to Jakarta, to find more comfortable lodgings than the miserable shelter they’ve endured for years and years?

    PS Don’t hold yer breath!

     
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