Jakarta’s Ataturk Avenue?

The plan for naming the road in Menteng after Mustafa Kemal Ataturk has drawn controversy…

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Thus begins one local media report, accurately enough.

The idea arose because the Turks are naming a road after Indonesia’s Founding Father…

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President Sukarno

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….President Soekarno, or Sukarno – spelling optional – so somebody thought that a reciprocal move might be a nice gesture.

Ataturk, after all, created modern Turkey from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire after WW1.

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Wow!

Uproar, because of  people like the Deputy Chairperson of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Anwar Abbas.

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Abbas considered Ataturk to be a figure who messed up Islamic teachings.

https://metro.tempo.co/read/1518911/nama-jalan-mustafa-kemal-ataturk-di-jakarta-ini-penjelasan-dubes-ri-untuk-turki

Perhaps Ataturk did.

Unlike the MUI, of course, who always offer wise guidance.

“A Wise And Noble Step?” Islamic ‘Scholars’ On Terrorist Unleashed In Indonesia! 

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Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta – “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said. 
 http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

 Bali Hindu King – Don’t Kill Our Cows! Muslim ‘Scholars’ – Get Lost!!  

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Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty” 

Islamist ‘Scholars’ – “Don’t Complain if You’re Attacked!”

I am staying neutral.

It was several years ago that I drew readers’ attention to Kemal Ataturk’s present-day political heirs, ‘the so-called “secularist” and “progressive” nationalist Kemalists,’ whom Western observers often deem an infinitely more promising alternative to Erdolf.

But they’re not, actually.

They too are as revanchist as Erdolf, ‘dreaming of expanding Turkey’s borders into Greece.’

This time, Sözcü newspaper has joined the choir of Turks dreaming of occupying Greek islands.

…and that’s an ‘opposition’ newspaper!

They are heirs to Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, and while he did a dashed fine job of stamping out backward ‘caliphate’ customs,

…viz. his actions when he…

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Ataturk – no uptights at his parties

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“…..closed all religious courts and schools,

– prohibited the wearing of headscarves among public sector employees,

– abolished the ministry of canon law and pious foundations,

– lifted the ban on alcohol,

– adopted the Gregorian calendar in place of the Islamic calendar,

– made Sunday a day of rest instead of Friday,

– changed the Turkish alphabet from Arabic letters to Roman ones.”     http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/guns-politics-the-rise-of-ataturk/

BUT

…at the same time, he also stamped out a million Greeks!

So he did well by the Turks, but oversaw genocide against non-Turks unlucky enough to be within his reach.

However, many fanatics here do not share my positive view on his reforms in Turkey, hence the debate.

And hence my neutrality!

Europe, Beware – Erdolf Ain’t The Only Dangerous Turk

One cannot deplore Erdogan too often.

He is a dangerous Islamist, authoritarian and aggressive.

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Erdolf posing with a map that makes expansionist claims on Greek territory

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But his regime is not the only Turk entity that represents a menace to our Greek allies.

As April elides into May, we come across a report on what are sometimes called ‘the so-called “secularist” and “progressive” nationalist Kemalists,’ whom Western observers often deem an infinitely more promising alternative to Erdolf.

And it turns out they too are revanchists, ‘dreaming of expanding Turkey’s borders into Greece.’

This time, Sözcü newspaper has joined the choir of Turks dreaming of occupying Greek islands.

…and that’s an ‘opposition’ newspaper!

Writing a blog like this is a learning process and I’m more than willing to admit I have much to learn about that part of the world and who did what to whom in the aftermath of WW1.

I have to thank the newspaper Greek City Times for reminding us that ‘Turkey’s founding father,’Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, while he did a fair job of stamping out backward ‘caliphate’ customs,viz. he…

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Ataturk – no uptights at his parties

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“…..closed all religious courts and schools, prohibited the wearing of headscarves among public sector employees, abolished the ministry of canon law and pious foundations, lifted the ban on alcohol, adopted the Gregorian calendar in place of the Islamic calendar, made Sunday a day of rest instead of Friday, changed the Turkish alphabet from Arabic letters to Roman ones.”     http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/guns-politics-the-rise-of-ataturk/

….also stamped out a million Greeks!

More than one genocidal atrocity occurred in the last century, and it’s a shame that all of them don’t get equal attention.

There’s a documentary included in the GCT link, called “Lethal Nationalism: Genocide of the Greeks 1913-1923,” which ought to be compulsory watching.

Only Erdoğan is a problem? Kemalist newspaper says Greece is occupying “18 Turkish islands”

I append that link, because it goes into considerable historical detail – most of us know a bit about the Treaty of Versailles…

The Versailles

…but the Treaty of Lausanne’s virtually unknown outside of senior common rooms! – which you can dip into, to get a proper perspective on the Turks’s predatory position on Greek islands like Rhodes.

 

 

 

Erdolf’s Anti-Anzac Rants? Nothing Wrong With Crusaders!

 

 –  “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.” 

SO!

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So the Islamist despot Erdolf, who has just put away a local journo for exposing collaboration between the despot and jihadist terrorists…Opposition MP joins other lawmakers in Turkish prison …a story we picked up on last year…

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Erdogan, Cameron’s Comrade, ISIS Collaborator, Yelps At Europe! 

…has overseen the erasure of words by Kemal Ataturk which honoured the Anzac sacrifice at Gallipoli?

Historians in Australia and Turkey believe the “refurbishment” could be part of the Erdoğan administration’s moves to cast Gallipoli as part of a clash…

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“The crusades were not [finished] nine centuries ago in the past! Do not forget Gallipoli was a crusade.”

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….between jihadi defenders (the Ottoman empire did declare a jihad) and invading crusaders on the shores of Islam.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/16/turkish-islamist-push-may-be-to-blame-for-removal-of-ataturk-inscription-at-anzac-cove.

The natural response of Australians to anything that smacks of dissing Anzacs is indignation, and smart Aussies, like all perceptive Brits, Yanks, Europeans, etc., already get it – Erdolf is our enemy.

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But while there was of course no religious significance in the Gallipoli clash, anyone who understands history should conclude that, contrary to his intention…

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…the Turk tyrant’s attempt to draw comparisons between the young Antipodean men who fell in WW1 and the actual Crusaders, those who battled a millennium ago, cannot demean the Anzac memory.

The Crusaders were a liberation army, seeking to rescue the Holy Land from those who had invaded the Byzantine Empire and subjugated its peoples.

Theirs was a noble cause!

As was Kemal Ataturk’s!

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Perhaps when  Ataturk uttered his words in honour of the Anzacs’ courage, he was not unaware of that historical aspect, because Ataturk too was a hero, who liberated his people from the stagnant shariah regime of the Ottomans.

=He “closed all religious courts and schools, prohibited the wearing of headscarves among public sector employees, abolished the ministry of canon law and pious foundations, lifted the ban on alcohol, adopted the Gregorian calendar in place of the Islamic calendar, made Sunday a day of rest instead of Friday, changed the Turkish alphabet from Arabic letters to Roman ones.”     http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/guns-politics-the-rise-of-ataturk/

 A dashed fine chap, indeed!

Yet now these glorious achievements are being rolled back.

So when we rail against Erdogan and his Islamist agenda, don’t tar all Turks with the same brush.

A lot of them share the values of the civilised world and abhor the sectarianisation that is ruining their country. They may prove to be valuable allies.

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Devilish Islamist Plot? Erdogan’s Reichstag Fire?

Not too frequently do I find myself nodding sagely at the words of an Austrian EuroCommissar!

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Hahn

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But Brussels Commissioner Johannes Hahn may be onto something when he hinted that Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan knew more than he has let on about the shocking events that unfolded on Friday.  .https://euobserver.com/foreign/134388

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Historians mostly think that the Reichstag Fire, blamed on a Communist, was used by Hitler as the flimsiest excuse to justify his complete machtergreifung, the seizure of power by the Nazi Party.

Further, I recall from my Soviet Studies post-grad time how the Bolshevik NKVD infiltrated and took command of a monarchist resistance movement and actually recruited Russian patriots who wanted their country restored to its traditions, a Tsar back on the throne.

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Needless to say, when it was time to strike, the Reds were fully prepared. The brave Tsarist resistance movement was stillborn, its members captured and killed.

Ring a bell?

I was certainly shocked by the speed with which Erdogan’s gang rounded up not only military dissenters but also several thousand ‘judges and prosecutors.’

Were these legal functionaries supposed to have been in on the ‘plot?’

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Or is this just a handy opportunity to rid the Turkish judiciary of people committed to the Ataturk vision of a civilised secular state?

No doubt the Islamist regime will replace the prisoners with sectarian hacks inclined towards the iniquitous shariah system, so lacking in justice, that obtained in the Ottoman Empire…

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…. whose flags, I heard, were borne high by pro-Erdogan agitators in the wake of the failed coup.

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Herr Hahn said that Erdogan’s crackdown “is exactly what we feared…it looked “like something that had been prepared. That the lists [of judges] are available after the events indicates that this [the crackdown] was prepared and that at a certain moment it should be used”.

Typically, however, the insipid in-crowd in Brussels seem more concerned about the reintroduction of capital punishment than the installation of a new caliphate.

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Belgian foreign minister DidierReynders said he “can’t imagine” that Turkey could ever become an EU member if Erdogan jailed judges or reinstated the death penalty.

Well, nobody in his or her right mind wanted Turkey brought further into Europe.

BUT…

Executing convicted criminals is hardly equivalent to jailing judges for no reason. Only a dumbo EUSSR apparatchik would equate the two as the Belgian has done.

Turkey has an absolute right to restore capital punishment.

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It was abolished, without any referendum, purely as a negotiating sop to Brussels. Erdogan is not a nice man but he can’t be faulted for his latest assertion.

“In a democracy, whatever the people want they will get. We cannot ignore this demand.”

Would that governments in France or Britain or Sweden, inter alia, could say the same!

That’s not to say the Turkish regime should put the coup detainees to death. There’s a huge doubt about the truth in the current case.

But certainly, there are terrorist prisoners galore who’d be none the worse for a hanging.

But then if they are affiliated to ISIS, or some other sectarian slaughter-house crew, we’d be naive to think Erdogan might put them down. Erdogan is a dyed-in-the wool Islamist fanatic.

Erdogan, Cameron’s Comrade, ISIS Collaborator, Yelps At Europe! 

There’s no way he’d dispense true justice to scum like that.

 

 

Solidarity With The Turks! ‘We Don’t Want Migrants Here!’

We have often warned against ‘the Turks,’ but on this blog at least we’ve also noted that plenty of ordinary Turks, as opposed to Erdogan’s authoritarian Islamist regime, are good guys and gals.

Muslim Women Pestered By Beach-Prowling Primitives! 

No wonder!

Their revered founding father, Kemal Ataturk, rooted out the ghastly shariah caliphate legacy, got Turkish women dressing like women…

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Ataturk – no baggies at his parties

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…and in general dragged his country into the 20th century.

So never generalise too much, about any country.

Yes, we have deplored the primitive Turks in Europe who roared sectarian support for Erdogan –Erdogan’s 5th Column Roars Islamist Slogans In Europe’s Heart!   –  Deutsche Welle: ‘Many Turkish hearts in Germany beat for Erdogan’ – but today we see a clearer picture.

“Those who want can shelter the refugees in their homes but I don’t want them. My life comes first. It is more precious than the others.”  http://www.euronews.com/2016/04/02/turks-protest-plans-to-process-migrants-returned-under-eu-deal/

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‘No migrants here!’

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How utterly bracing, the sight of those Turks in Dikili saying exactly what Germans, Austrians, Danes and of course Brits have been saying since the crimmigrant tsunami began.

One guy put it succinctly – sticking a ‘migrant processing centre’ in his area would not only affect farmers’ ability to till their fields and drive away tourists, but would ‘affect the demographics.’ Just as Mama Stasi’s crime of the century would ‘change Germany.’

And these Turkish protestors know what they’re talking about. Turks live right next door to those ‘poor desperate Syrian refugees.’

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You know, these ones!