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  • ross1948 23:55 on October 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Koran,   

    Besok Macet2 Lagi? IslamoNazi ‘Long March?’ Gimme A Break! 


    MACET!

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    • One Indonesian word we all learn fast – it means ‘traffic jam’ and we sure do get them a lot!

    Sadly, tomorrow could see Jakarta’s drivers, inured to the misery of congested roads, held to even slower progress than usual.

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    • The IslamoNazi FPI, self-styled ‘Islam Defenders Front,’ are staging what is ludicrously described as a ‘Long March.’

    It’s the latest in their series of shrill bleatings against the capital’s Governor Ahok.

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    They have always hated Ahok, as do all the backward bigot elements in the archipelago… 

    Jakarta Jew-Haters Boo Chinese Christian Candidate 

    …but there’s currently a row over his comments on a Koranic verse.

    Normal rational Muslims have made clear it’s no big deal –

    ..Vice-Chair Regional Board of Nahdlatul Ulama Jakarta, Taufik Damas. reckons Ahok’s words were not degrading to the Qur’an…

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    “From the footage that lasted one hour and 43 minutes, I do not see any words of Ahok that degrade verses of the Koran… ”

    Taufik advised residents to watch the original video in its entirety to find out what Ahok was really saying.

    PWNU DKI Jakarta nilai ucapan Ahok tak nistakan agama – ANTARA …

    Taufik’s NU is the largest Muslim organsation in Indonesia, but there are quite a few rabid fanatics who will grab at any issue to rant against Ahok.

    The white-shirt gang says it will bring five thousand fanatics onto the streets of Jakarta tomorrow  – http://www.tribunnews.com/metropolitan/2016/10/13/5000-anggota-fpi-demo-ahok-besok-polisi-siaga –  parading their sectarian rage from Istiqlal Mosque to the City Hall.

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    Istiqlal Mosque


    The big mosque is just north of Monas Square, so how can anyone claim that a stroll from there to Jakarta City Hall is a ‘Long March’ – unless they call a halt for coffee at every warkop en route!

    Warkop or warung kopi ia a small humble cafe or coffee-shop…

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warung

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    But that’s what the report says…di sekitar Masjid Istiqlal hingga Gedung Balai Kota DKI Jakarta, Gambir, Jakarta Pusat… – translate it yourself, Google up a city map, and see what I mean!

    I could walk that distance inside half-an-hour!

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    • They could actually dawdle their way through Monas Square, a lovely open green space, which would mean no disruption to road traffic at all.

    • Or they could do their thing on Saturday or Sunday, which would minimise disruption to all the car and motor-bike users who would rather get to and from their work-places than see or hear Islamist extremists stomping and shrieking. 

    • But I fear their nasty little demo on a Friday will exacerbate traffic something terrible. 

     
  • ross1948 16:22 on April 6, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Basel, , , , , Juerg Lauener, Koran, , , , , Therwil   

    Swiss School Panders To Sectarian Brats! 


    Among my various jaunts around Jakarta this week was a visit to the northern part of town, where I hung out for part of the afternoon with a nice bunch of Indonesians, pleasant young adults, men and women of all creeds.

    I didn’t ask them about their religion but some of the ladies were bescarfed and several popped out for prayers.

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    • None of them showed the slightest reluctance to shake my hand when we met, nor when we parted. Indonesians are polite, as a rule.

    So we may assume that the arrogant little bigots mentioned in the RT report below are just that- obnoxious fanatical toe-rags.

    Their offensive incivility is saddening, but what’s much more infuriating is the sicko appeasement mentality of the Swiss school administration that panders to their discourtesy.

     

    Die Sek Therwil.

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    A school in Switzerland says its Muslim pupils will no longer have to shake hands with female teachers following a controversial ruling.

    Two male Muslim students said they did not want to shake hands with women as it was against their religion.

    Discourteous little dorks need a clip round the ear..

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    Decent Muslims in Switzerland are speaking up against them. 

    There was no reference in the Koran justifying a refusal to shake a woman teacher’s hand, said the Swiss Federation of Islamic Organisations. Saida Keller-Messahli of the Forum for Progressive Islam urged the Swiss not to give in to extremist demands.     http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35967349

    Men and women shake hands here every day, in this 90% Muslim archipelago, the largest Muslim country in the world. There have been a few backward bints who wrap something round their hands when they are introduced to me
    But in all my many years here, I’d say less than half-a-dozen – and one of them was a pathetic Canadian ‘convert’ chick who’d clearly married a rabid zealot, a primitive…
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    …like this other lot in Switzerland –  the smaller Islamic Central Council of Switzerland said that a handshake between men and women was prohibited. 

    The school’s located in northern Switzerland, a place called Therwil, near the big city of Basel ( many spell it Basle, but that’s the French way, and the city and canton are in the German-speaking part of the country, so I use theirs)

    The brats concerned are mid-teens, who should have been told to smarten up and recognise that they live in a civilised country – shape up or face expulsion.

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    Instead, their infantile insistence that Islam does not permit any physical contact between members of the opposite sex, unless it is with family members…   https://www.rt.com/news/338488-muslim-school-women-switzerland/persuaded the school principal, a man named Juerg Lauener,to  opt for appeasement, thus encouraging their anti-social recalcitrance.

    Simonetta Sommaruga

    • Naturally, decent Swiss are outraged.
    • Justice Minister Simonetta Sommaruga sums it up –“shaking hands is part of our culture.”

    Christoph Eymann, of the Swiss Conference of Cantonal Ministers of Education, also reminded the school that  “We cannot tolerate that women in the public service are treated differently from men.”

    But the spineless local authority in Therwil has bottled out of its duty to see that schools teach children basic responsibilities of citizenship in a civilised country (aka good manners) 

    They “will not intervene as [it] is the responsibility of the school to set the rules,” said their spokesman – actually, disgracefully, spokeswoman –  Monika Wyss, whose council thereby betrays all Swiss women.

    PS

    The beleaguered school has tried to find a compromise, by deciding that the two pupils should not greet either men or women with a handshake.

    That’s just a bad joke, a mockery of school discipline. If these two young nasties think fanatic Islamist dogma is okay, one is tempted to suggest that fanatic Islamist penalties should be considered to quell their insolence.

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    Indonesia Sharia Law Shariah law in Aceh

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    But better they just be sent packing. Juerg Lauener should be sent with them, The school would be much improved if all three were removed permanently from its premises! 

     

     
  • ross1948 10:40 on May 24, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , Javanese rhythm, , Koran, , , recitation   

    Jokowi On Blasphemy Charge? Java Rhythm ‘Enflames’ Fanatics! 


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    President Jokowi has quite lot to contend with these days, both home and abroad, and even gets criticism from our blog from time to time.

    But a new clamour has arisen, from that ever-ready source of intolerance, the IslamoNazi FPI, the self-styled ‘Islam Defenders Front.’

    They want him PROSECUTED for blasphemy!

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    They’ve got their white-shirt knickers in a twist because last week’s State Palace celebration of the Islamic Ascension included Koranic readings in which the verses were recited with rhythms associated with Indonesia, rather than with Arabia.

    Given that the State Palace is located in Jakarta, capital city of Indonesia, a naive observer might see nothing amiss with this.

    Indeed, many observers, not at all naive, might raise a cheer, because it tends to be that minority of Muslims who pay much too much attention to backward Arab thnking who cause offence and disturbance.

    The more Indonesianised any Islamic activities become, surely the better for all concerned.

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    ‘We Muslims should fast with respect for those not fasting.’

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    The late President Gud Dur was a fine example of how to apply Islamic standards in a Javanese (i.e.tolerant and civilised) manner. 

    Among those whose response suggests approval are that refreshing fellow, Lukman, about whom it would be uncharitable to say that he’s the best Minister of Religious Affairs since Suryadharma Ali.

    Truth to tell, my cat would have been an improvement  on Ali.

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    In fact, Lukman is an admirable man, who seems to be a person of genuine good character and goodwill to all men.

    Anyway, Lukman defended the use of Javanese rhythms at the palace, despite many who say such a manner of recitation is forbidden.

    “The purpose of reading the Koran with Java style is to keep and maintain the tradition of the archipelago in spreading the teachings of Islam in this country,” said Lukman on his personal Twitter account.

    http://utama.seruu.com/read/2015/05/20/249051/alquran-dibaca-dengan-langgam-jawa-fpi-tuntut-jokowi-lengser

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    Today, how many Indonesians can afford to study Arabic in school, even supposing they can afford to go to school at all?

    Of couse, there are pesantren, the so-called ‘Islamic boarding schools,’ but while I’m prepared to concede that some of those are run by good people, a lot are NOT! Many are at best described as obscurantist!

    Lukman Slams Pesantren Fanatics – Can One Brave Man Slay The Hydra? 

    Others are much worse than that!

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    But Indonesia has a way to go before that kind of progress is conceivable. Having prayers in Bahasa Indonesia? Or Bahasa Jawa or Bahasa Sunda? Read about the police investigation into Muhammad Yusman Roy for conducting Islamic ritual prayers (shalat) in two languages, Arabic and Indonesian.   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2005/08/12/mui-fatwa-negates-freedom-religion-human-rights.html

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    Let’s just be glad for now that the Javanese rhythm is getting support.

    But not from some geezer called Saiful Islam Mubarak, who runs – yes, you guessed! – the Pesantren Tinggi Maqdis.

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    He reckons this step challenges the character of the Koran. 

    Lukman’s response is mild.

    “That’s understandable because this is something new and gives rise to diverse views…This is purely my own proposal… something positive with positive goals…,” said Lukman.

    BUT there’s no show without Punch!

    Lukman’s opinion enflamed the FPI!

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    • Their frantic fanatic fuhrer, Habib Rizieq, modestly demanded that “the President and the Minister repent and ask forgiveness before God, and apologize to all Muslims.

    ALL Muslims?

    Since when did this outlandish gang-leader speak for ALL Muslims?

    Jokowi’s a Muslim, Lukman’s a Muslim, and Lukman consulted various ulama (‘scholars’) prior to the recital.  

    But Rizieq’s having none of that archaic (and Javanese-style!) rubbish about respecting other’s views.

    “If not, they must be processed with the blasphemy law and ousted from office because of insulting the Koran. Legally, insulting the Koran is apostasy. An apostate cannot lead Muslims!” 

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    apocalypse-30 The end of the world…

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