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  • ross1948 7:26 am on August 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    In Jakarta, Persecuted Ahmadis Seek Justice! 


    Good to see that, despite President Jokowi’s inaction on repealing the vindictive and discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree, which was issued during his predecessor’s term of office…

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    …that mean-spirited diktat’s victims, the peaceful and inoffensive Ahmadiyah minority creed, are not giving up.

    They’re taking their fight for religious liberty to the Constitutional Court!

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    Constitutional Court, Jakarta

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    And they’ve included in their legal submission this rather fine paragraph.

    “If the government assumes a certain denomination can comment, even determine the fate of other denominations in the same religion, does this mean the government can also ensure which domination is received by God Almighty…

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    …and gets a special door into His heaven?   

    https://news.detik.com/berita/d-3613134/cari-keadilan-ke-mk-komunitas-ahmadiyah-sodorkan-15-kasus:

    That’s tellin’ ’em!

    It’s always been a matter of puzzlement to me how come the so-called Islamic ‘scholars’ here, the state-funded MUI…

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    • ….are so lacking in confidence in their version of religious dogma that they cower from debate  with Ahmadis…

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    ….and instead go whining to the state to shut dissent down.

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    The Ahmadi plaintiffs have submitted a list of specific maltreatment occasions to bolster their case…Gambar terkait

    …and although readers overseas may be totally unfamiliar with the places mentioned, it seems a good idea to append that list, so you can see how these decent people’s religious liberty has been affronted.

     

     1. Sealing Al Furqon Mosque, Kersamaju, conducted by Satpol PP on March 31, 2015.

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    The Satpol PP are the civic militia, controlled by local governments throughout Indonesia

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    2. Sealing Al Hidayah Mosque, Depok conducted by a group of people on March 19, 2011. It was repeated in February 2017 conducted by the Head of Satpol PP Pemkot Depok.

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    3. The burning and sealing of Masjid Al Furqon, Parakansalak, Sukabumi by the masses on April 28, 2008. After that Satpol PP Sukabumi sealed the mosque on July 26, 2016.

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    4. Damage to Al Kautsar Mosque, Kendal, Central Java in May 2016.

    5. Prohibition of the use of the mosque An Nashr, Pekanbaru on October 12, 2010. The ban was in line with the letter of Mayor of Pekanbaru to Ahmadiyah congregation to stop their activities.

    6. Damage to Cipeuyeum Mosque on March 13, 2011.

    7. Termination of mosque construction in Kunto Darussalam pasda April 2017.

    8. Scattering Al Misbah Mosque, New Jatibening, Bekasi on 14 November 2011.

    9. The burning of the Cisalada Mosque on October 1, 2010 by a group of people.

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    Ahmadi Koran, burned in a major sectarian arson attack in Cisalada

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    10. Sealing Baitul Rahim Mosque, Singaparna on 12 April 2012 night.

    11. Rejection of the issuance of e-ID card 1,400 people of Manislor Village, Kuningan in 2012.

    12. Rejection of the registration of marriage certificate at Tanjungpinang Religious Court on April 16, 2015.

    13. The destruction of Masjid Mahmud, Singaparna on April 15, 2010 noon

    14. Damage to mosques and houses of Ahmadiyah members in Ciaruteun, Bogor on March 11, 2011. A total of 7 families of Ahmadiyah refugees.

    15. Case of expulsion and destruction of houses of members of Ahmadiyah Lombok, NTB.

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    Anti-Ahmadi sectarian arson in Lombok

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    If you want more info on some of these cases, you can use our Search box, entering Lombok, Cisalada, or just Ahmadiyah and see the extent of the evil perpetrated against them.

    I wish them the best of luck in their fight against oppression!

    1. Penyegelan Masjid Al Furqon, Kersamaju, yang dilakukan oleh Satpol PP pada 31 Maret 2015.

    2. Penyegelan Masjid Al Hidayah, Depok yang dilakukan oleh sekelompok orang pada 19 Maret 2011. Hal itu berulang pada Februari 2017 yang dilakukan oleh Kepala Satpol PP Pemkot Depok.

    3. Pembakaran dan penyegelaan Masjid Al Furqon, Parakansalak, Sukabumi oleh massa pada 28 April 2008. Setelah itu Satpol PP Sukabumi menyegel masjid itu pada 26 Juli 2016.

    4. Perusakan Masjid Al Kautsar, Kendal, Jawa Tengah pada Mei 2016.

    5. Pelarangan penggunaan masjid An Nashr, Pekanbaru pada 12 Oktober 2010. Larangan itu seiring surat Wali Kota Pekanbaru ke jemaah Ahmadiyah untuk menghentikan kegiatan mereka.

    6. Perusakan Masjid Cipeuyeum pada 13 Maret 2011.

    7. Penghentian pembangunan masjid di Kunto Darussalam pasda April 2017.

    8. Penggembokan Masjid Al Misbah, Jatibening Baru, Bekasi pada 14 November 2011.

    9. Pembakaran Masjid Cisalada pada 1 Oktober 2010 oleh sekelompok orang.

    10. Penyegelan masjid Baitul Rahim, Singaparna pada 12 April 2012 malam.

    11. Penolakan penerbitan e-KTP 1.400 orang Desa Manislor, Kuningan pada 2012.

    12. Penolakan pencatatan akta nikah di Pengadilan Agama Tanjungpinang pada 16 April 2015.

    13. Perusakan Masjid Mahmud, Singaparna pada 15 April 2010 siang

    14. Perusakan Masjid dan rumah anggota Ahmadiyah di Ciaruteun, Bogor pada 11 Maret 2011. Sebanyak 7 KK warga Ahmadiyah mengungsi.

    15. Kasus pengusiran dan perusakan rumah anggota Ahmadiyah Lombok, NTB.

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    • JazPen 8:01 pm on August 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I knew you hadnt forgotten the Ahmadis but you use to write about them all the time.
      Its good to see you have still got their back.

  • ross1948 8:00 am on June 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    President Wins ‘Praise’ For Sitting Down With Fanatics? 


    Did everyone in Indonesia ‘praise’ President Jokowi for meeting the most intolerant Islamists in the archipelago?

    I doubt it, but the sycophantic headline in the Jakarta Post…

    Jokowi praised for meeting with opposition Muslim organization during Idul Fitri

    …might lead readers to think so.

    In fact, what appeared under that headline included only one voice of ‘praise,’ and that was from his very own fan-club, the ‘President’s Volunteer Forum (Bara JP)’  

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    Others may take a different view from that expressed by Sihol Manullang. For the JP to describe those Jokowi met as an ‘opposition’ movement is somewhat gilding the lily.

    One can oppose some or all of the President’s polices but the  the ‘Muslim orgainsation’ referred to is none other than that inveterate enemy of free speech, the National Movement to Safeguard the Indonesian Ulema Council’s Fatwa (GNPF-MUI),

    Indeed, the JP correctly reminds us of that gang’s role as the mastermind of a string of mass rallies protesting the leadership of former Jakarta governor Basuki “Ahok” Tjahaja Purnama, using his backgrounds as a Christian of Chinese descent as one of its objections.

    Those hate-demos were a blight on the face of Indonesia’s image as a pluralist country once famous for its tolerance and commitment to religious liberty.

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    Barbaric Islamists in Jakarta, burning Ahok in effigy


     

    Ahok, now imprisoned for ‘blasphemy’  – seriously, in the 21st century!

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    The protesters, most of whom were men dressed in white Muslim attire, were heard yelling, “We want a Muslim governor,” “Burn Ahok!” and “Kafir!”   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/10/14/thousands-hard-liners-march-against-ahok.htm

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    The photo of the meeting in the JP does not include one of the GNPF-MUI’s most infamous notables, Habib Rizieq, the ‘grand imam’ of the white-shirt vigilante gang that calls itself the FPI, the Islam Defenders Front.

    But Rizieq’s absence is no indication that the fanatics who did attend the chummy chat with Jokowi omitted the ‘grand imam’ from their delegation out of choice.

    Fact is, Rizieq is not ANYWHERE in Indonesia at the moment.

    Police Add FPI Leader Rizieq Shihab to Most Wanted List

    But individuals. albeit fascinatiing, are secondary.

    The President’s guests, and the MUI itself, represent the most extreme sectarian elements in this country.

    Many MUI ‘fatwas’ have long been either a matter for jest, like their anti-yoga decree, or examples of quite terrifying hostility to religious liberty, such as that notorious anti-Ahmadiyah diktat. Since that edict was issued, the totally peaceful and  inoffensive Ahmadi minority has gone through hell.

    Even during the recent ‘holy month,’ we had to read about monstrous anti-Ahmadi hate-crimes..

    “Mohon Ma’af?” Blasphemous Brutes Vandalise Depok Mosque! 

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    We have over the past few years had to report on to all kinds of offensive stuff from MUI leaders.

     Bali Hindu King – Don’t Kill Our Cows! Muslim ‘Scholars’ – Get Lost!!  

     Islamist ‘Scholars’ – “Don’t Complain if You’re Attacked!” 

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    If you wish to know more about the MUI, insert the three letters into my search box, or again, here are a few familiar choice samples of MUI thinking..

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    • ma'arruf amin

    • Ma’aruf
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    MUI’s Deputy Chair, Ma’aruf, who kindly advised everyone that FGM is a ‘human right!’  

     https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/clitoral-clip-no-scraping-suffices-tell-us-islamist-scholars-why-do-it/

    And this enlightened gent… 

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    Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta

    “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
     http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

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    • Why anyone, let alone a pluralist head of state, would give them house-room, is itself very disturbing.  

     
  • ross1948 1:08 pm on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    “Mohon Ma’af?” Blasphemous Brutes Vandalise Depok Mosque! 


    Mohon ma’af, ‘ is a common addition to Idul Fitri greetings here, people asking forgiveness for any wrongs they’ve done in the past year.

    I wonder if certain blasphemous bigots in Depok will walk over to the Ahmadi Mosque they vandalised this weekend….

    The vandals, who used motorcycles, threw eggs and paint at the mosque’s yard and front and back gates. “They also threw eggs at the mosque’s CCTV cameras so their actions would not be recorded,” Fatiatulo Lazira, a lawyer with the team, said. They also placed a banner expressing animosity toward Ahmadiyah near the mosque.

    ….and seek forgiveness.

    I doubt it. Islamist bigots have no conscience recognisable to normal human beings.

    I recall that evil mass-murderer, Imam Samoedra, one of the Bali Bomb Pigs..

      

    Imam Samoedra, with his two satanic co-killers

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    …being asked by a naive journo prior to his well-deserved execution, if he would be asking forgiveness.

    ‘Why would I ask forgiveness from kafir,’ was the monster’s retort.

    So no repentance likely among the backward beasts in Depok either, where the vandalised Ahmadi mosque had already been shut down by the sectarian local government’s goon-squad.

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    Hasil gambar untuk masjid ahmadiyah depok

    The mosque has been sealed off by the Depok administration seven times, with the most recent occurring on June 4.

    Nor is there any news from President Jokowi, who likes to talk about Indonesia’s pluralism, about any plan to repeal the notorious Tri-Ministerial Decree.

    The Ahmadis have long been persecuted in the country, with the government issuing a joint ministerial decree banning their activities in 2008.http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/24/ahmadiyah-mosque-in-depok-vandalized-ahead-of-idul-fitri.html

    At least the JP report has a few words on the source of  much of Indonesia’s intolerance, reminding us that it was the MUI’s dogmatic decree…

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    The  2005 Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) fatwa declaring the teachings of Ahmadiyah heretical

    which bigot bureaucrats  have used to shut down religious liberty in dismal Depok – more than once!

    I do suspect, however, that ‘heretical’  – and utterly inoffensive and peaceful  – Ahmadis today are saying ‘mohon ma’af’ for any little mistakes they have made, over the past 12 months, in good conscience, knowing that they have done nothing wrong in wishing to worship God Almighty in their own honourable way.

     

     
    • Kezia 8:49 pm on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      The MUI must ‘seek forgiveness,’ just like you say.
      Depok kampung criminals who attack the mosque are stupid with no education but MUI are older and not stupid only mean and full with intolerance. So many mean things happen after the MUI fatwa.
      Why will President Jokowi not protect Ahmadiyya people.
      The Ahmadi do no harm.

    • Tyas 2:34 pm on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      And I agree with you Kezia, the MUI always make me feel like why do they shame our country.
      We since 1945 like to have freedom for all religion.groups.
      MUI do not.
      Eventhough I am Muslim

  • ross1948 7:37 pm on June 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: disorder, , MUI (Indonesian Ulema Council ), , , slamet maarif, , Tengku MUI   

    If You’re Out On The Town In Jakarta Tonight, Beware! 


    Just saw the news on Trans TV, the white-shirt FPI thug-gang went ahead and staged a ‘takbir’ tonight, starting about now, despite an appeal from Jakarta City Police not to hold takbir around Jakarta.

    The FPI  – the Defenders of Islam Front – are notorious cowardly bullies. Just put the letters into our search box over there to the right. 

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    FPI – sectarian hate-gang on the march in Jakarta

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    Takbir is a kind of parade/motorcade marking the end of the fasting month. They obviously cause traffic congestion and general inconvenience and have in previous years degenerated into brawling.

    Peace? Ramadan Convoys “Often Taunt and Fight Each Other!” 

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     “We will still carry out our takbir tour in various areas including Jakarta, because the takbir tour is local wisdom and part of syiar Islam…”

    So said Slamet Maarif, Jakarta FPI Gauleiter, resplendent in his local wisdom.

    In other words, shariah trumps all.

    Indonesia ‘Scholars’ Council

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    Much the same arrogance we heard from the MUI, the state-sponsored Islamic self-styled ‘scholars,’ a few years ago.

    An official with the Indonesian Council of Ulema (MUI) has criticized the Jakarta Police’s call to curb the amount of Idul Fitri prayer convoys in the capital, alleging it as an attempt to “defy” and “belittle” Islam.

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    • tengku zulkarnain-mui- Tengku
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    • MUI deputy secretary-general Tengku Zulkarnain…criticized the police’s suggestion to limit takbir-chanting — often called takbiran in Indonesian — within the confinement of mosques.
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    Which of course was hogwash when he said it, as it is today.

    The great majority of police here are Muslim, as one would expect in a 90% Muslim country, and some at senior levels have even shown themselves well-disposed to the fanatic FPI!

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    Indonesia’s Top Cop Calls IslamoNazi Gang ‘Very Tolerant!’ 

    Of course the police are not out to ‘belittle Islam.’

    They presumably want to keep the streets safe and orderly.

    But Tengku has in the not-so-distant past shown signs of a persecution complex. ‘…the Koran has already instructed Muslims about the deceitfulness of the enemies of Islam.’ 

    Top ‘Scholar’ – “Amazing Muslim Advance in West Scares Islam’s Enemies!” 

    Last word to Slamet.

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    “If there are limited personnel for security purposes, they can work with Islamic organizations in Jakarta, instead of reversing silly policies that are not popular,” said Slamet.   http://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasional/20170624154819-20-223954/fpi-gelar-takbir-keliling-meski-dilarang-polisi/

    In other words, hand over policing of Islamist parades to people like Slamet’s own Islamist louts.

    Won’t that be a wonderful day?

    Pray to whichever God you worship that it may never dawn in Indonesia.

     

     
    • JazPen 9:27 pm on June 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I used to like going out to watch the fun but the fun isnt there any more. Its faded.away.
      After those horrible children were filmed chanting for Ahok to be burned I said it was not the Indonesia I knew. What are the Jakarta Police doing right now?
      Watching over the FPI tabrik?

  • ross1948 9:10 am on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Hari Yoga Internasional, , MUI (Indonesian Ulema Council )   

    International Yoga Day – But Beware Of ‘Scholars!’ 


    Mustn’t let such an important day go by without mention.

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    And of course this also provides me with another good reason to remind readers of the fatwa of the self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI in 2009, which won worldwide attention.

    Bali Defies Fatwa on Yoga – The New York Times

    However, I won’t go over that again.

    If you are curious about the Indonesian Council of ‘Scholars,’ then here are just two or three links to stories of their senior members’ amazing utterances.

    Bali Hindu King – Don’t Kill Our Cows! Muslim ‘Scholars’ – Get Lost!!  …

    Islamist ‘Scholars’ – “Don’t Complain if You’re Attacked!”

    Clitoral Clip? No, ‘Scraping’ Suffices! TELL Us, Islamist ‘Scholars!’ WHY Do It? 

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    Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty” 

    Who’s Worse? Retard Screws Horse, Top ‘Scholar’ Wants Him Stoned to Death! 

    But in all honesty, it’s such a nice day outside, I don’t want to spoil it by thinking about such people…

     
    • Dita 1:08 pm on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Very good!
      I hope you enjoying the sunny day.

  • ross1948 8:55 am on June 9, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Shadow Of Islamist Intolerance Darkens Depok Once Again 


    It’s not as if we haven’t looked into the ugly face of Islamist intolerance in Depok scores of times, sometimes with a grimace at the antics of those involved Islamist Bigot Biter Bit in West Java 

    But at other times one has to feel nothing but contempt for the mean-spirited oppression of the inoffensive and utterly blameless Ahmadiyah religious minority.

    Sadly, the latest news falls into the latter category, nothing to smile about as sectarian bigotry blights the city yet again.

    The Mayor of Depok thinks it’s acceptable to hammer religious liberty in his dismal city, apparently to meet the demands of “certain groups that pressured him into forbidding Ahmadiyah followers from carrying out their worship activities in Depok.”

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    Mayor Mohamed Idris sent in his goon-squad, the SatPol PP – civic militia – and now the Ahmadis’ Al-Hidayah Mosque has been sealed.

    One government flunkey tries to justify suppression of religious liberty by invoking the locals’ numbskull bigotry.

    fDepok National and Political Unity Agency head Dadang Wihana argued that the closure was aimed at maintaining a peaceful situation and to protect the Ahmadis themselves, saying that the locals had felt disturbed by their presence and they might incite conflicts.  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/08/ahmadis-plan-lawsuit-against-depok-administration.html

     One might think it’s numbskulls, like those who can’t observe other people’s ways of worship without getting ‘disturbed, that deserve the attentions of the SatPol PP.

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    The militia is equipped with sturdy batons which might knock some sense into those numb skulls!

    It’s fairly nauseating to be back on the subject of religious liberty in Depok, West Java, yet again.

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    It’s especially offensive because Ramadhan is meant to be a holy month of reflection and introspection, not persecution, but the authorities in Depok clearly care little for soul-searching and much more for witch-hunting.  

    Ahmadiyah spokesman Yendra Budiana said that the National Commission on Human Rights (Komnas HAM) and the National Commission on Violence Against Women (Komnas Perempuan) had urged the mayor to not restrict religious freedom…  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/04/authorities-allegedly-seal-ahmadiyah-mosque-in-depok.html

    But decent people versus ‘certain groups?’

    Not much of a contest in Dark Age Depok.

    The Ahmadis are now talking lawsuit, but if the powerful Governor of Jakarta can be sent to prison for quoting an Islamic verse, what chance do a small congregation of humble folk persecuted in Depok have?

    Important question – who are these ‘certain groups?’

    Neither the Ahmadi leader nor the Jakarta Post seem up to telling us. Ahmadis, of course, have faced murderous persecution…

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    Islamist beasts at their bloody work in Cikeusik

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    … notably at Cikeusik six years ago, when three of them were martyred by a mob of Islamist savages. They have reasons to be wary.

    But it’s surely the Jakarta Post’s job to report properly and seek out the ‘certain groups?

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    Sectarian gangsters need to be exposed, not covered for, although there’s a pretty good bet that it’s IslamoNazis at work again.

    Which particular gang? I don’t know, and I haven’t got the resources the newspapers have to find out.

    If I had, I’d try.

    Has the JP tried?

    Doubt it.

     
  • ross1948 10:15 am on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Jakarta Post’s True Colours – ‘Hands off Islamists!’ 


    Most of us understand the clear difference between Muslims and Islamists.

    One of the former had a modest meal in my home last night. Another will likely drop by for a pleasant visit over the weekend. The folks I met up with in town yesterday were Muslims.

    They are fasting, most of them, this Ramadhan. They don’t eat pork. Most of them don’t share my enthusiasm for beer.

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    They are normal people who follow their religious customs and respect the fact that a lot of people have either different religious practices or no religious affiliation at all.

    Islamists are something else entirely.

    They are bigoted fanatics who are essentially intolerant and believe that their ways should dictate our ways. They hold power in Indonesia’s Aceh Province, where women of ANY creed are coerced into head-shrouding under the oppressive shariah code.

    Islamist rule in Aceh is an endless nightmare…

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    ‘Immoral Activities – Sitting in Coffee Shops Laughing and Talking…’ 

    Islamist Inquisition in Aceh – ” Minority Religious Creed ‘Worse Than Tsunami!’ “

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    Aceh’s Mad Mullah – ‘Dancing is EVIL – It Involves Body Movements!’ 

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    The most notable Islamist spokesmen here in Jakarta are the self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI, and the thug gangs like the FPI…

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    …whose ‘high priest’ – currently keenly sought by the police – told us that Governor Ahok deserved death for the ridiculous ‘offence’ of ‘blasphemy,’ which in Ahok’s case merely comprised quoting a Koranic verse and questioning its meaning.

    Slouching Towards Shariah, Indonesia Jails Ahok

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    The MUI are also blood-thirsty, demanding stoning and flogging, not for criminals who seriously merit such punishment, like the savage mob who murdered the three Ahmadi martyrs at Cikeusik…

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    ahmadiyah2

    Cikeusik, Banten Province, February 6th, 2011. Watch the pigs at their bloody work on this link..   http://www.liveleak.com/view.

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    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

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    …but for  – WAIT FOR IT – sleeping around.

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    Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta

    “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
     http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

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    That’s who Islamists are, and what they do.

    BUT…says the anonymous editorial  in the Jakarta Post…

    …celebrations beyond this “Pancasila Week” must avoid worsening the mistake of suppressing Islamists.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/academia/2017/05/31/editorial-a-pancasila-holiday.html

     Okay, we know that the Jakarta Post’s parent company, Gramedia, has a shameful record of collaboration with the Islamists, to the extent of overseeing a Hitlerian book-burning bonanza in support of the MUI’s vendetta against freedom of thought and expression.


    Jakarta Post – A Nelson’s Eye View Of ‘Pluralism!’ 

    But so far, while editorial cowardice has prevented any condemnation of that Nazi-style arson, they have never openly endorsed it either.

    Does this latest outbreak of Islamist empathy now signal that the JP is going belatedly to its support for Gramedia’s grisly intolerance?

    A question all the more important as we celebrate this, Pancasila Day!

     
    • JazPen 5:24 pm on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Good one again Ross and I hope that newspaper will make it clear too.
      Did you read that terrible woman Julia Suryathing writing in the Jakarta Post about she thinks it was real progress to allow men to have four wives but nothing at all about how women dont get to have four husbands or three or two, only allowed one and that is her idea of progressive..

      She also totally dodged saying if child marriage is right or wrong, She just mentioned it the once and made no judgment.call. I think the old girl must be scared she will upset the fanatics.
      What a coward but thats the Jakarta Post for you.
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      • ross1948 11:40 pm on June 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for that, JazPen.
        I did see her woefully inadequate ‘thoughts’ on child marriage and polygamy, but decided she wasn’t worth a comment.
        However, you sum her up quite successfully.
        Thanks.

  • ross1948 10:47 am on March 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Gulen, , Inter-Faith envoys, MUI (Indonesian Ulema Council ), Professor Amin Abdullah,   

    Jakarta's 'Inter-Faith' Envoy Amin Abdullah Best Avoid Turks! 


    Much to contemplate about the news here in Jakarta, that, among the ‘interfaith leaders set to visit several countries across Europe and the United States to introduce values of tolerance among Islamic religious followers in the country…’

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    Professor Amin Abdullah

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    …is an Islamic scholar named Amin Abdullah.

    Not too familiar with Amin’s record, I looked it up and I have to admit, he seems to be impressively tolerant.

    But that sentence quoted above is somewhat confusing. Are Amin and his fellow-envoys really going abroad to introduce values of tolerance among Islamic religious followers in the country- Indonesia?

    Surely the place to achieve that objective is right here at home?

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    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/03/18/interfaith-leaders-to-tour-europe-us-to-introduce-indonesias-moderate-islam.html

     

    Certainly, there’s much to be done in this sunny archipelago, where there are millions of decent Indonesians who ARE tolerant, but a significant number too who are viciously intolerant of any other mode of worship.

    I’m not talking about loathesome ignoramuses like those we have seen in in West Java.

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    Head-Scarfed Harpies Hurl Dung and Urine at Christians 

    But how about this bunch?

     

    Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty” 

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    The official recognised body of self-styled ‘scholars,’ the MUI, is infamous for its intolerance.

    The climate of intolerance has intensified since I came here in the late 1990s, to the extent that the Christian Governor of Jakarta is currently on trial for the Dark Age ‘crime’ of ‘blasphemy.’ 

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    Ain’t Just Ahok – More Indonesian Dissenters Behind Bars! 

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    But this Jakarta Post report needs more than one morning’s comment to do it justice.

    What concerns me today is the safety of Pak Amin Abdullah if he goes to Europe next week as planned. 

    The JP tells us that France, Germany, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the US are among countries they will visit.

    As we know, or should have learned  from reading the news last week, Germany and The Netherlands are infested with fanatic Turks, fans of the arrogant Islamist Erdogan.


    Hasil gambar untuk turks rotterdam riot

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    His fans are as much enemies of tolerance as he is.

    They are violent ingrates who showed by their disgraceful behaviour that they do not belong in the civilised democratic societies which have afforded them opportunities to better themselves.

    erdogan

    ……..

    Nor of course does Erdolf belong to Europe, neither the Europe of traditional values that we favour, nor the left-liberal Europe which the Brussels Euro-Commissars are intent on imposing.

    So Prof. Amin needs to beware!

    Why?

    Because Erdogan’s secret police, and their huge network of agents all across these European countries…  –German investigation into Turkey’s religious officials collecting information on its enemies may be the tip of the iceberg. Turkish imam spy affair in Germany extends across Europe-…may well be extremely nasty but they are simultaneously extremely diligent.

    They do their research!

    And if I can learn within five minutes of researching Professor Amin Abdullah that he has sung the praises of Fethullah Gulen, so can the Erdogestapo.

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    Gulen

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    Gulen is the bete noire of the sectarian regime in Ankara, where the wannabe caliph views the exile as his arch-enemy.

    Since the failed kudeta last year, which Erdogan claims to believe was Gulen’s work, myrmidons of the Turkish state have been persecuting, prosecuting and jailing real or alleged Gulen fans…

    ……….

    …and a reign of terror unleashed against then in Europe.   ‘Sleepless nights’ for Gülen’s supporters in Europe

    Hence my concern for Pak Amin’s safety. Anyone who writes as he has written-

    One reason for the success of the Gülen movement in many countries is the universal nature of Gülen‘s vision, his nonviolence and tolerant approach during a time of fear of religious extremism…Gülen bases his dialogue not entirely on the ground of faith, but on love. His social philosophy revolves around the idea of serving humanity, and institutes should service this purpose…. 

    M. Amin Abdullah – Gulen Conferences

    Well, let’s just say you’d better watch your back over there, sir.

    Europe ain’t what it used to be!

     
    • JazPen 3:01 pm on March 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I was surprised that the government here would think to do this, send people flying around talking about tolerance with Ahok on trial because he upset Habib Rizieq and the MUI.
      But nothing much really surprises anymore.

  • ross1948 9:51 pm on February 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , , MUI (Indonesian Ulema Council ), ,   

    West Java – Depok’s Damnable Dreary Bigotry, Again! 


    No sooner have we reported on the Indonesian President’s alarm at the expansion of democracy in his country, than we have to highlight the shrinkage of religious liberty there.

    …………

    freedom-of-religion

    ………

    Almost needless to say, it’s back to Depok, a West Java municipality that abuts Jakarta, and has been the scene of disgusting persecution for years.

    Shariah City? Some 12,000 Reasons To Steer Clear of Depok! 

    • The latest episode occurred this weekend, vicious victimisation of the peaceful and inoffensive Ahmadiyah minority.
    • There’s apparently a video via this Metro TV link.  http://news.metrotvnews.com/peristiwa/ObzB7mlb-muncul-seruan-aksi-242-menolak-ahmadiyah-di-sawangan
    • A mob-march on a small Ahmadi congregation, bigots determined to shut them down? Will the police drive the bigots back, or force the Ahmadis to knuckle under?
    • .. 
    • If the cops allow suppression of religious liberty in Depok, it sure won’t be the first time. Even unlawful seizure of the minority’s property has gone unpunished in the past.

       

      • They make me want to vomit, all the usual suspects reportedly involved.
      • But a few others, people one might have hoped would speak up for pluralist values, have aligned themselves with Depok’s Dark Agers. 
      • Metro reports the following have appended their names to an appeal for a bigot mob to prevent the minority creed worshipping God.
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      • Ahmad Daman Huri, head of the Islamic boarding school Al Karimiyah;
      • Abdullah Syafii, MUI Chairman in Sawangan;
      • Syahlani, NU Leader in Sawangan;
      • Mustofa, Muhammadiyah Leader in Sawangan;
      • Agus Rahmat Djaelani, FPI Chairman, Depok City
      • —————-
      • fpi kill busddhist=
        • The IslamoNazi FPI
        • The self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI…
        • fatwa mui sholeh
      • ….these outfits are infamous for their intolerance.
      • ————
      • But more depressing is the inclusion of the NU notable, and the man from Muhammadiyah.
      • Those organisations were formerly regarded as moderate.
      • Nowadays?
      • ——–
      • din-syamsuddin-_120703152435-684
      • Din Sanyuddin, MUI chief
      • ————
      • Who knows, since Muhammadiyah’s kingpin, Din, became MUI’s also? I’d hoped Din might stamp out the backward elements among the ‘scholars’ – like their neanderthal enthusiasm for FGM and stoning adulterers.
      • But so far no joy.
      • And now we read of the Depok Muhammadiyah man lending support to suppression of religious freedom.
      • —–
      • Indonesian_National_Police_General's_Visor_Hat
      • It’ll be down to the Depok cops.
      • Going back a year or so, we heard encouraging noises from the Presidential Palace. Jokowi Urges Cops To Protect Minorities – in Depok? 
      • But will those police officers heed their president or will innocent people suffer once again at the hands of jihadist jerks?
     
    • Santi 10:02 am on February 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      So many stories from foreign places this week, Ross, and I know you are far away for now but I like that you do not forget Indonesia.
      This Depok story makes me sad, why can the people not go to the mosque in peace and not get mob coming at them.
      It is not right but I read today the city goverment in Depok act intolerant again and order mosque closed, and police do not protect the Ahmadiya right to worship in own mosque.
      I hope President Jokowi will help them keep their freedom to worship.

  • ross1948 1:01 am on December 24, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Kulonprogo, MUI (Indonesian Ulema Council ), ,   

    Well Done, Tito Karnavian – Collaborationist Cops Slapped Down! 


    It’s fair to say some of us have been concerned by the behaviour of Indonesia’s National Chief of police.

    So Has Indonesia Come To This? Paradise Lost? 

    But Tito Karnavian deserves a round of applause for telling two local top cops to back off from their seeming endorsement of a fatwa issued by the notorious fanatics of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI).

    “I have firmly warned the Bekasi Police chief and Kulonprogo Police chief.  I warned them because it’s not permitted to issue circulars based on an MUI fatwa…”


    Hasil gambar untuk tito karnavian Tito Karnavian

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    “…an MUI fatwa is not statutory law that should be upheld. [The police] should not issue circulars that could become a legal document,” he added.

    This is most welcome!

    All too often in recent years we have read of the self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI using the police to enforce their opinionated outbursts.

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    Adam Created By Angel?” Islamist ‘ScholarsCall the Cops

    fatwa mui sholeh

    Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty” 

     

    Bekasi Police reportedly issued a circular on Dec. 15 while Kulonprogo Police released a circular on Dec. 17, in which both instructed owners and management of businesses not to force their employees to wear Christmas attributes.  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/12/19/police-to-revoke-circulars-on-mui-ban-on-christmas-attributes.html

    The MUI, as we keep reminding readers who may not be familiar with their record, are a benighted bunch, and again we offer examples to substantiate this description –.

     —————

    • ma'arruf amin Ma’aruf

    • ———-

    It was MUI’s Deputy Chair, Ma’aruf, who kindly advised everyone that FGM is a ‘human right!’  

     https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/clitoral-clip-no-scraping-suffices-tell-us-islamist-scholars-why-do-it/

    And here’s another of their ‘scholars’ talking. 

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    Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta

    “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
     http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

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    Clearly accepting moral guidance from such people is ill-advised, let alone allowing such extremists to lay down the law.

     Islamist ‘Scholars’ – “Don’t Complain if You’re Attacked!” 

    Bekasi Police, alas, operate in a community infamous for its intolerance.

    Head-Scarfed Harpies Hurl Dung and Urine at Christians

    Again, previous posts here confirm that sad fact.

    Bekasi’s Islamist Regime – ‘We Won’t Allow Religious Liberty If Bigot Thugs Object!’ 

    Bekasi Bigots V Religious Liberty, Again! 

    ——-

    And apart from anything else, the record of Bekasi Police themselves leaves a load of questions to answer about things they’ve done – or not done!

    …here – Christians Abused by Islamist Mob, Cops Fail to Enforce the Law 

    …and here – ‘Off With His Head!’ – Jakarta Cops – No Sweat on Murder Threat! 

    As for the situation in Kulonprogo, I simply don’t know and need to check it out. Jogjakarta used to have a good reputation for religious tolerance, but recently…?

     
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