Today’s International Day of Zero Tolerance For FGM!
Bedtime in Jakarta, but first, just a late reminder of how backward some people can be.
So the MUI are issuing a fatwa against ‘fake news?’
Since it’s National Press Day here today, I’m focusing, yes, again, on the Indonesian Council of ‘Scholars’ – that’s the state-sponsored body which produces one bizarre dogma-diktat after another…
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…really bright stuff, like telling women how to ride, or NOT to ride, their motor-bikes…
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She’s probably not enjoying her bike in an MUI-approved way!
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…and warning against the menace of yoga.
Now they’ve got ‘fake news’ in their sights.
Whatever that means.
I doubt the Indonesian press is any worse than the American mainstream media, or the British, vast sectors of which deliberately distort realities, by calling parasitic hordes ‘refugees’, or describing illegal immigrants as ‘undocumented.’
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But I do sometimes wish that some of the local media reports on the MUI’s output might turn out to be fake news.
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It was MUI’s Deputy Chair, Ma’aruf, who kindly advised everyone that FGM is a ‘human right!’
And here’s another of their ‘scholars’ talking.
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Syamsul Maarif, General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta
“If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705
Now it’s time for bed.
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Indonesia’s second-largest Islamic organization, Muhammadiyah, has said extremism is becoming more common around the world.
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Well, yes, the Green Party-– Daniel Cohn-Bendit and the German Greens’ pedophile problem ..is a growing menace in Germany…
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…along with the Left Party, heirs to the Communist quisling regime. A large percentage of the party’s politicians are known or suspected agents of the former East German secret police…One of Ulbricht’s Heirs, Complicit in Crimmigration!
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But Muhammadiyah is an Indonesian Muslim outfit, so right here should be their focus, if they want to help.
And Pak Haedar told the Jakarta Post that he does...
He further said Muhammadiyah was ready to cooperate with other societal elements to eliminate all forms of extremism in Indonesia.
They could make a retrospective start by condemning Nazi-style book-burning, like that carried out by Gramedia, which owns the Jakarta Post.
Grovelling Gramedia’s Book–Burning Bonanza – Appeasing Fanatics
More recently, who was it joined in the fanatic chorus demanding that our good Jakarta Governor, Ahok, be prosecuted for the ludicrous offence of ‘blasphemy?’
The Muhammadiyah Youth Wing!
“I have come here to be questioned as a filer of the report,” the youth wing organization chairman Khairul Sakti Lubis said….
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The organization is one of several groups that reported Ahok for alleged blasphemy after he mentioned Al Maidah 51, a verse in the Quran, at an event in Thousand Islands regency.
Khairul said Ahok, a Christian, could not interpret verses in the Quran, because Islam was not his religion….
Perhaps Bapak Haedar could have a quiet word with young Khairul, reminding him that stomping free speech, on matters of religion as anything else, is clearly a manifestation of extremism.
As to the absurd arrogance of claiming that only followers of any particular creed are capable of interpreting that creed’s dogmas – go figure!
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However, maybe the Boy Wonder’s extremism can be better understood when we remind ourselves of the MUI’s fanatical extremism.
The Indonesian Council of (self-styled) Scholars has long been the source of incredibly outlandish extremist outbursts, which we have featured here before and now do so again.
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It was MUI’s Deputy Chair, Ma’aruf, who kindly advised everyone that FGM is a ‘human right!’
And here’s another of their ‘scholars’ talking.
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Syamsul Maarif, General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta
“If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705
And who is currently the leading light of the MUI?
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None other than Din Syamsuddin, who also just happens to be top man in Muhammadiyah!
Is he ever going to take steps to root out the extremists from their positions of power and influence in MUI?
Until he does, ponder that old English adage…
A phrase one can say meaning people should not criticize others for faults that they have themselves.
Good to hear Indonesia’s top cop has pledged to prevent the Islamist fanatics implementing their nasty anti-social scheme to create traffic havoc.
General Tito Karnavian denounced the notorious sectarian extremist Habib Rizieq’s statement, which said the Dec. 2 protesters would carry out Friday prayers across the capital’s two main roads, namely Jl. MH Thamrin and Jl. Sudirman.
Curiously, the Jakarta Post reporter didn’t explain to JP readers about Rizieq, whom they described merely as a ‘spokesman’ for the GNPF-MUI – that’s the recently organised ‘National Movement to Save the Indonesian Ulema Council’s Edicts…‘
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Edicts, BTW,should have been left in its original, untranslated form, FATWAS
Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty”
If you want to know more about the Indonesian Ulema Council’s fatwas,then you can flick through our search box and chortle at the absurd yoga ban, and shudder at their awful habit of running to the police to back up their dogmatic intolerance.
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FPI in action
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But the JP should have said that Rizieq is in fact the ‘high priest’ of the IslamoNazi thug-gang, the FPI, self-styled ‘Islam Defenders Front.’
Again, check out our search box for their horrid habits.
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Of course here in Indonesia, everyone knows that, but overseas readers should not be left in the dark about the true nature of the forces of darkness!
Tito said if demonstrators insisted on holding their rally on those roads, the police would disperse them and act firmly to anyone who opposed the police.
GOOD!
Muslims can like everyone else, pray at any time, and in any place. I had a very nice Muslim colleague in London, who would pray in our staff smoking room. No problem.
But we have seen both here…Jakarta – Top Cop Slams Traff-Islamic-Jams … and in Western countries…Paris ban on Muslim street prayers comes into effect – BBC News… examples of irresponsible crowds brazenly and needlessly obstructing public roads and footpaths.
‘normal’ Jakarta traffic jam
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General Tito talks sense too about how to handle amok-runs, like that seen in Jakarta on 4th November.
Violent protesters would be charged with articles 212 to 218 of the Criminal Code (KUHP) on attacks against public officials.
That will be widely applauded, if it happens.
After the march on November 4th, which ended with vicious Islamist thugs running amok…
….with 20 or more police injured, Jakartans are now facing rumours of an action replay.
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We have had that strange decision by the police to declare Governor Ahok a ‘blasphemy’ suspect – Despite Islamist Intimidation , Ahok Campaigns On! – as if ‘blasphemy’ should be a criminal offence anywhere!
Unfortunately, here in Indonesia, it is.
And unfortunately, the police have more than a few times responded to the bleating of the state-sponsored MUI, the self-styled ‘Scholars’ Bali Hindu King – Don’t Kill Our Cows! Muslim ‘Scholars’ – Get Lost!! whose intolerance is infamous Islamist ‘Scholars’ – “Don’t Complain if You’re Attacked!” by descending on anyone whose religious views the MUI dislikes.
Adam Created By Angel?” Islamist ‘Scholars’Call the Cops!
Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty”
It’s the MUI who have been leading calls for Ahok’s arrest!
But whatever.
The cops’ decision should logically have meant that even the nasty sectarians who organised the hate-fest (a fair description, since many of the sectarian rabble were heard chanting ‘Burn Ahok’) ought to await progress (a somewhat unsuitable word, surely)
After all, it is a common saying here among all creeds that orang sabar disayang sama Tuhan.
The patient man is dear to God.
Yet maybe nasties get bored with behaving themselves. Maybe they weary of staying home – as we saw that black day (a Friday, a working day here in Indonesia) a lot of them don’t tend to waste precious time by going to work when there’s a hate parade to join!
I can’t imagine God thinks highly of the sort of bigotry we saw on 4th November, but unlike the ranting IslamoNazis, I don’t pretend to know what God actually thinks.
Interestingly, tellingly, BTW, none of the unpleasant gangs behind the ‘blasphemy ‘ hate-parade have seen fit to organise a similar protest against REAL blasphemy, the murderous assault by satanic terrorists on that Indonesian church last week.
Anyway, as Jakarta’s working population struggles through the usual awful Friday traffic this cloudy afternoon…
…many of them will be even more stressed out than usual, because, among many other media, the Jakarta Globe reports that more massive anti-Ahok protests by Muslim hardliners are planned for next week. http://jakartaglobe.id/news/calls-mount-muslims-avoid-another-anti-ahok-protest/
Good to kow that sane Muslim groups are telling their members to have nothing to do with any such jihadist jerk nonsense.
But who knows?
At least there’s a small bit of good news further down the page.
A peaceful rally aimed at showing Indonesia’s religious and ethnic diversity is planned for Saturday, taking the familiar theme of Bhinneka Tunggal Ika (Unity in Diversity).
How many will turn out?
On that, and the determination of decent folks of all religions, depends this lovely country’s future.
The organisers hope for 100,000
Alas, the Jakarta Globe doesn’t tell readers when and where.
But I made the effort and here’s the info, if you are in Jakarta tomorrow.
Starts 8am till noon, at the Hotel Indonesia Roundabout. Originally, they wanted to march to Monas, the National Monument, which would have been a perfect good-guy mirror image of the bad-guy parade on the 4th November.
They changed it ‘after coordination with police!‘
Hello, Ross. I just read this too about more bad fanatic marching and I read it not in here only but in other newspaper. This is bad idea and police better to stop it before it happen.
Iya, sabar but why good people in Indonesia must be patient with bad people who want to burn Ahok.
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I havent ever been in the habit of going to demos but this time I think I will, tomorrow.
The timing shows that the normal people are more considerate than the abnormals. A Saturday demo is a lot less disrupting to the working population than making it on a Friday afternoon when everybodys trying to get home.
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We must all be there tomorrow, so world knows Indonesia people are not same like MUi and FPI.
We do not hate each other for the religion they have.
Thanks to you for telling us the time and place.
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Oh Wow!
I’d forgotten all about Pak Rafani Achyar, West Java chief of the MUI, the Indonesian Ulema Council – that’s the Council of Indonesian ‘Scholars.’
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Good, I hear you say?
Well, it might be, if we weren’t aware of his loathing for religious tolerance, exemplified by comments he made a while back about the inoffensive Ahmadi minority, citing the case of the Ahmadiyah, who are not dealt with even when their offense is very real and clear.
Rafani Rants Again – Islamist Witch-Hunts in West Java
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But we’ve not heard much about him since his famous rage against a VERY sexy woman – whom I wrongly identified as Miss World, when in fact she was Miss Universe!
In fact he expanded his rant then to encompass a whole lot of very sexy women!
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‘Ban Miss World!’ say Kill-Joy Clerics. Why? ‘She Ain’t Sharia Compliant!’
Besides Inul, Dewi and Jupe, MUI West Java branch secretary general Rafani Achyar said he wanted to ban Anisa Bahar, Uut Permatasari, Ira Swara, Nita Thalia and the group Trio Macan. Trio Macan
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Trio Macan, yummy dangdut singers, like the others named above
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Is this guy going to republish ‘The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?’
I am really intrigued by the goings-on in the place you live.
I did spend some time in South East Asia but must of led a sheltered life or where I was just didn’t have all the nutty characters you write about.
SInce reading this an hour ago, I have been trying to find any other English language coverage of Mr. Ranfani’s stunning Zionist-Bolshevik conspiracy theory but so far not been able to.
However, I looked at the link and used Google Translate to see what it said so I know you’re not making it up. Are ALL these ‘scholars’ as downright peculiar as him?
Please keep this stuff coming. It’s an eye-opener.
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Thanks to OkTerus.com for revealing a hitherto unheard of demand by frothing fanatics – that young love be outlawed.
… there is a movement that is asking the MUI to issue a fatwa against courting couples -unclean!
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Pacaran is the Indonesian word for a lad having a girl-friend – or, if you happen to be a girl, having a boy-friend.
This brand new backward brigade even have their own hashtag
#IndonesiaTanpaPacaran
Indonesia Without Courting!
What wretched little bores these people must be, sticking their stickybeak noses into normal people’s personal relationships.
At first I imagined this might be some sort of displaced Indonesian April Fool story, but there’s even a photo of some sad little thing deploring what she’s likely never sampled.
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Reading on, we learn that the dark-agers think going steady has proved damaging to their generation, presumably the younger generation, since we oldsters won’t give such nonsense the time of day…
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Their propaganda makes your flesh creep.
.Therefore, O people of Indonesia, wherever located, let’s take part in the historic struggle to eliminate courting in Indonesia.
With your support, inshaAllah, the MUI will eventually issue a fatwa making pacaran haram.
Right!
PS The scary thing is, the MUI might just do what these uptights are asking!
“Based on all the input we received, we decided that the first day of Ramadhan will fall on Monday, June 6,” Lukman Hakim told reporters at a press conference. http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/06/05/indonesia-declares-ramadhan-beginsmonday.html
I do wish my Muslim friends and neighbours a Happy Ramadhan.
But off we go again, those silly little curtains erected across the front of street food stalls, like my little warteg where I usually go for a filling two-dollar lunch…
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...a peculiar fanatic folly, as if passing Muslims will forget their fasting if they catch sight of me tucking into perkadel, tempe, tahu pare, etc.
In fact, it will enhance their virtuous self-denial if they see me eating, because what sort of commitment to abstinence is it, what sort of will-power do they need to muster, if alternatives are hidden from their gaze?
The same point arises in respect of Lukman’s further words.
The minister also called on owners of entertainment businesses, especially nightclubs, to temporarily close or adjust the running of their businesses during Ramadhan to respect the fasting month.
Why on earth should they close?
That’s not ‘respect’ but a kow-tow!
Not every Muslim feels like experiencing a month of tedium. And Jakarta has large minorities of Christians, Buddhists etc. who are not fasting at all!
As mentioned in past posts, the late President Gus Dur, a noted Islamic scholar, had a healthier perspective, viz.
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‘If we fasting Muslims want respect, let us also respect those who aren’t fasting.’
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In other words, live and let live!
If you don’t want to eat and drink and have fun, fine, but it’s outrageous to tell others, who do want to carry on as normal, that they may not.
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Good Indonesians Denounce ArchBigot Ali’s Latest Intolerant Outburst
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But whatever Lukman thinks himself, he has many intolerants to reckon with, not merely the IslamoNazi hoodlum gangs like the FPI…
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IslamoNazi FPI louts practicing devout introspection at a previous Ramadhan
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…but also the state-sponsored self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI, whose leaders talk against violence but can then engage in verbal diarrhoea like this. .
So we just have to put up with the sectarian shut-downs, though not without complaint – I’ll be recording some of the antics in the weeks ahead.
But here’s what’s most disturbing about Lukman’s statement.
“I also remind the media to support the government’s mission to preserve harmony during the holy month,” he added.
Well, some of the media are under year-round censorship here. Even the film ‘Noah’ was outlawed…
… and in the past, the MUI have used the state censor board as a cypher to apply their prudery.
But exactly what does the Minister means about the media’s role?
That merits further study. I’ll be back.
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