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  • ross1948 13:10 on June 23, 2021 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: desecration of Christian graves, , Islamic 'school', Mayor Raka, pesantren,   

    Java Crack-Down After Anti-Christ Desecration! 


    Horrible story from the city of Solo, in Indonesia’s Central Java province, where a gang of children smashed up Christian graves.

    But better news quickly heard, that the mayor ‘has vowed to shut down an Islamic school’ which the perpetrators attend.

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    Gibran Rakabuming Raka is not only the mayor but also the son of President Jokowi.

    The nasty little brutes, aged 5-12, ‘broke off crosses of 12 Christian graves in the public cemetery on June 19.’

    Mayor Raka went to the scene and was suitably appalled.

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    We will close the school and dismiss its teachers because they are teaching intolerance to their students, Raka told reporters after the visit.

     He added that the ‘school’ had no permit from local government and ‘urged police to prosecute the teachers and punish the students despite them being children. Their actions were a gross act of intolerance, he said.

    Curiously, the report says the ‘school’ has not been named, yet goes on to quote its head, a man calling himself Ustad Mujair (‘ustad‘ just means cleric)

    He denies  ‘teaching intolerance or that teachers encouraged the children to vandalize the graves.’

    https://www.ucanews.com/news/indonesian-islamic-school-faces-desecration-backlash/92976

    It’s important to emphasise that this kind of behaviour is uncommon here and most Muslims abhor it.

    For example, when I told a Muslim friend of mine about the blasphemous act of some American red nazi Antifa or was it BLM scum, who burned a Bible…

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    ‘…protesters with “Black Lives Matter” signs toss Bibles into the inferno….’  demonstrators exhibited their rage by burning Bibles and American flags.’

    Which Is More Hated By BLM? Their God Or Their Country? 

    ….her first words were-

    ‘Sudah ditangkap? ‘

    ‘Have they been arrested yet? ‘

    These pesantren – ‘religious schools’ – have long been a concern here. These posts from some years back tells you more about them.

    Lukman Slams Pesantren Fanatics – Can One Brave Man Slay The Hydra?

    Islamist Pesantren Leaders in Indonesia – Pluralist or Primitive

    I pass one on my bus journeys around Jakarta often, and see no signs of such unpleasantness among the young people who go in and out. But they can be put to evil use by Islamist fanatics.

    Just put the word pesantren into my ‘search box’ and you may see for yourselves what can go wrong.

     

     

     
    • Wulan 18:15 on June 23, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      I hope Solo Police will arrest the teachers and find out who has made these children do this criminal desecration.
      The mayor must make sure the case is taken serious.

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  • ross1948 21:51 on February 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    West Java – Depok’s Damnable Dreary Bigotry, Again! 


    No sooner have we reported on the Indonesian President’s alarm at the expansion of democracy in his country, than we have to highlight the shrinkage of religious liberty there.

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    Almost needless to say, it’s back to Depok, a West Java municipality that abuts Jakarta, and has been the scene of disgusting persecution for years.

    Shariah City? Some 12,000 Reasons To Steer Clear of Depok! 

    • The latest episode occurred this weekend, vicious victimisation of the peaceful and inoffensive Ahmadiyah minority.
    • There’s apparently a video via this Metro TV link.  http://news.metrotvnews.com/peristiwa/ObzB7mlb-muncul-seruan-aksi-242-menolak-ahmadiyah-di-sawangan
    • A mob-march on a small Ahmadi congregation, bigots determined to shut them down? Will the police drive the bigots back, or force the Ahmadis to knuckle under?
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    • If the cops allow suppression of religious liberty in Depok, it sure won’t be the first time. Even unlawful seizure of the minority’s property has gone unpunished in the past.

       

      • They make me want to vomit, all the usual suspects reportedly involved.
      • But a few others, people one might have hoped would speak up for pluralist values, have aligned themselves with Depok’s Dark Agers. 
      • Metro reports the following have appended their names to an appeal for a bigot mob to prevent the minority creed worshipping God.
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      • Ahmad Daman Huri, head of the Islamic boarding school Al Karimiyah;
      • Abdullah Syafii, MUI Chairman in Sawangan;
      • Syahlani, NU Leader in Sawangan;
      • Mustofa, Muhammadiyah Leader in Sawangan;
      • Agus Rahmat Djaelani, FPI Chairman, Depok City
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        • The IslamoNazi FPI
        • The self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI…
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      • ….these outfits are infamous for their intolerance.
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      • But more depressing is the inclusion of the NU notable, and the man from Muhammadiyah.
      • Those organisations were formerly regarded as moderate.
      • Nowadays?
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      • Din Sanyuddin, MUI chief
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      • Who knows, since Muhammadiyah’s kingpin, Din, became MUI’s also? I’d hoped Din might stamp out the backward elements among the ‘scholars’ – like their neanderthal enthusiasm for FGM and stoning adulterers.
      • But so far no joy.
      • And now we read of the Depok Muhammadiyah man lending support to suppression of religious freedom.
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      • It’ll be down to the Depok cops.
      • Going back a year or so, we heard encouraging noises from the Presidential Palace. Jokowi Urges Cops To Protect Minorities – in Depok? 
      • But will those police officers heed their president or will innocent people suffer once again at the hands of jihadist jerks?
     
    • Santi 10:02 on February 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      So many stories from foreign places this week, Ross, and I know you are far away for now but I like that you do not forget Indonesia.
      This Depok story makes me sad, why can the people not go to the mosque in peace and not get mob coming at them.
      It is not right but I read today the city goverment in Depok act intolerant again and order mosque closed, and police do not protect the Ahmadiya right to worship in own mosque.
      I hope President Jokowi will help them keep their freedom to worship.

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  • ross1948 20:43 on January 5, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    Kill-Joy Islamists Ruin New Year Holiday! 


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    Once again, Aceh disgraces Indonesia before the eyes of a watching world.

    Jawapos.com reported that people who wanted to enoy the holiday at the  beach location in Mameh District were immediately dispersed. They were forcibly sent homeward-bound after being ‘invaded’ by a thousand students joining up with the Islamic Defenders Front (FPI).

    Students? A pack of po-faced, pig-ignorant juvenile delinquents, more like. But we have to understand these are not students in any sense comprehensible to civilised people.

    … at least 30 private cars and minibuses carrying a thousand dayah students dressed all in white and green… ”

    DAYAH?

    That means their ‘studies’ comprise Islamist dogma. They don’t attend normal schools, instead enrolled in pesantren, so-called ‘religious’ schools.  Lukman Slams Pesantren Fanatics – Can One Brave Man Slay The Hydra? 

    Almost amusing is the description of how the IslamoNazis’ local gauleiter, At Thahiry, using a loud-speaker ‘invited holiday-makers to leave the tourist sites, with a half-hour time limit.’

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    Invited? An invitation, to normal folk, is a card with RSVP imprinted beneath the details of time and place. Or, more enticingly, words like ‘Come up and see me sometime!’

    But not in Aceh! 

    We give you half an hour to leave the tourist sites, and we ask the Police, WH and municipal police to immediately expel tourists…

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    • …if we are not heeded, the FPI will carry out the dispersal –  we are not afraid to go to jail,” he said, interspersing his rant with shrieks of  ‘Allah Akbar.’

    Not much chance of jail for jerks like him. The police in Aceh uphold such shariah vigilantism.

    And please note, that ‘WH’ above refers to the shariah goon-squad, that gallant band we have had reason to comment on previously.

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    Aceh’s shariah gestapo, the loathesome Wilayatul Hisbah.

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     Aceh’s Shariah Police ‘Stained Forever’ by Gang Rape

    Oh, and further usurping the powers of what passes for law up there in the sectarian cess-pool, he declared the beach district ‘officially closed as of today!”  http://www.jawapos.com/read/2016/01/04/14915/anggota-fpi-datang-paksa-wisatawan-di-pantai-pulang

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    What Aceh beaches need is not closure, nor shrilling from white-shirt thugs, but IMPROVEMENT – beaches need to be adorned by sea-side scenes like these…

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    ….taken from an Indonesian film I went to see a few years ago.

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    That was a horror movie, but the evil creatures who emerged from the waters then were nowhere near as hideous as the kill-joy bigotry displayed by those intolerant IslamoNazis in Aceh.

     

     
  • ross1948 09:50 on November 6, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Lukman Slams Pesantren Fanatics – Can One Brave Man Slay The Hydra? 


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     Islamic boarding schools in Indonesia should teach students to embrace diversity, and steer clear of radicalism and violence, Religious Affairs Minister Lukman Hakim Saifuddin said on Wednesday. 

    Brave words, Lukman, and I tend to believe he means what he says. 

    Religious Liberty! Lukman Lights a Candle of Hope! 

    After the nightmare intolerance of his predecessor, Suryadharma Ali, Lukman’s brief tenure at the Ministry has been a breath of fresh air.  

    But if he seriously intends to take on the Forces of Darkness that lurk in many pesantren (Islamic boarding schools) he’s got his work cut out, a herculean task, literally. 

    It was the legendary Herakles who took on and slew the multi-headed Hydra, and while some of these religious schools undoubtedly are run by decent folk, the number that don’t runs into THOUSANDS.  

    That’s not my guesstimate, nor a wild claim by some ‘Islamophobe.’ 

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    “What Islamic boarding schools should teach is inclusivism and nationalism, not radicalism — that is what makes these schools Islamic,” the minister added.

    So how many pesantren are NOT Islamic, if Lukman’s definition is valid?

    Here’s a clip from a previous post, published during the reign of Lukman’s fanaticial predecessor. Although it’s quite long, it is informative, taken from local Indonesian sources. You’ll see that Lukman’s own Ministry officials differ dramatically in their answer to that question.

    A ‘handful?’

    Or THOUSANDS?. 

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    Choirul Fuad Yusuf, director of pesantrens at the Religious Affairs Ministry, said only a handful of the roughly 27,500 pesantrens across the country could be categorized as radical or espousing a rigid understanding of Islam. 

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    The growing chorus of accusations that the country’s pesantrens, which teach a combined four million children, are hotbeds of radicalization, Choirul said, are unfounded. To claim that they are “places for terrorists to grow, that is wrong,” he said, arguing that most pesantrens taught tolerance and pluralism.

    What is Choirul’s definition of tolerance and pluralism? He works for the Ministry of Religious Affairs. So his boss is Suryadharma Ali, arguably the biggest bigot in President SBY’s Coalition ( I say arguably only because some other Ministers are pretty bigoted too) Ali wants the Ahmadis banned. He hates the thought of those peaceful minority members having the same rights as followers of other creeds…..  

    Having declared that only a ‘handful ‘ of pesantren are ‘radical’ or ‘rigid,’ Choirul is suddenly contradicted by his colleague, Nuhrison M Nuh. Nuh redefines what most of us would understand as a ‘handful.’

    •    “There are THOUSANDS of unregistered pesantren in the country that have been teaching radicalism to students for years,” said Nuhrison M. Nuh, head of the ministry’s research and development department.

    Right, from a handful to thousands. So what is Nuh going to do about that?

    “It’s hard to control them because they’re established by respected local people.”

    Respected? Islamist fanatics indoctrinating youngsters are ‘respected?’ By whom? Are we talkng about stagnant primitive pools like Cikeusik, where a recent JG report suggested many of the villagers hailed the February Pogrom scum as heroes? 

    “Most of these shady pesantrens are financed with money raised in the Middle East, where their founders went to school and where they still have friends and teachers with whom they have maintained close ties….

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    ….in such cases, Nuhrison said, both the Religious Affairs Ministry and the National Education Ministry were powerless to shut the schools down.

    “If we do, then we stand accused of violating their right to freedom of expression, which in turn will lead to more conflicts,” he said. “So we can do virtually nothing. We’re in a dilemma because we’re bound by the need to respect freedom of expression.”

    Oh, so freedom of expression for IslamoNazis is sacrosanct, but freedom of religion for Ahmadis is not?

    Nuh says that his Ministry has talked to 40 such schools in six provinces, with positive results, but thatnone of the schools were among those considered overtly radical by the government.’

    So now his staff are‘drawing up a list of the pesantrens that are either unregistered or known to be preaching radicalism, which is expected to be completed next year. “We’re working with officials from Pakistan, Egypt and Iran in compiling this list,” Nuhrison said.

    This is getting weirder. The IslamoNazi schools can’t be touched on human rights grounds, but there’s going to be a (likely very long) list drawn up? Why?  So Nuh’s men know which schools not to bother….?

    in fact I’d be most curious to learn which of the forty schools mentioned above are GENUINELY into tolerance.

    Before all these NGOs (and Western governments which, despite the fact that NGO means non-governmental organisation, seem to be heavily involved with them) start pumping money and/or materials into these pesantren, let’s get one thing straight.  It may well be true that only a minority of Islamic boarding schools are into actual terrorism.  

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    • But a large proportion of pesantren are rotten to the core with primitive sectarian intolerance. Financing them in any way is funding the war on religious liberty which they and the other Islamist forces in society are waging on their innocent Ahmadi fellow-citizens.

    Don’t believe me? Think it’s just Ross on his hobby-horse? Well, here’s a link to Harian Pelita, an article published exactly a year ago today.

    http://www.harianpelita.com/read/2879/5/kesra-dan-agama/kiai-pesantren-dukung-pembubaran-ahmadiyah/

    You can translate it yourself, but here’s the gist, and the appalling bigotry of these people has to be read carefully to be fully appreciated.

    The Majelis Silaturahim Kiai Pengasuh Pondok Pesantren se-Indonesia  – that’s the All-Indonesia Council of Pesantren Leaders  (MSKP3I) ‘are pushing the government to disband Ahmadiyah organizations in Indonesia.’

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    The MSKP3I statement was read out by Andi Djamaro Dulung after the meeting at Pondok Pesantren Asshiddiqiyah, Jakarta, Wednesday (1 /9/10) and it said that MSKP3I assesses Ahmadiyah as a group outside Islam, and the organization must be disbanded.

    The decision was taken in the forum “Bahtsul masail” (discussion of issues in terms of Islamic law) which was attended by, among others, KH Ma’mun al Ayyubi, Salam Wahab KH, KH Hasbullah Ali, KH Mahrus Amin, al Anshori Ahya KH, and KH Abdul Ghofur.

    The report also notes that Andi is a former chairman of NU, the ‘moderate’ organisation quoted in the JG item above. Some moderates, right? 

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    “We ask that the government do not hesitate in taking action,” said Andi Djamaro. Yeah, so moderate. Let the state strike down freedom of worship!

    Chairman MSKP3I KH Noer Muhammad Iskandar SQ who hosted the meeting, added that the Ahmadiyya issue was not a matter of freedom of belief  guaranteed by the constitution.

    “The issue is precisely that, the problem being that Ahmadiyah is defamation of religion, particularly Islam,” he said.

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    Besides, added Kiai Noer, Ahmadis have clearly violated the provisions set forth in the joint decree (SKB).

    That’s the Tri-Ministerial Diktat, by which the Government stripped Ahmadis of the constitutional rights guaranteed to all religions in Indonesia.

    “Therefore, all Islamic organizations, including the Indonesian Ulema Council, must unite for dissolution of Ahmadiyah,” Noer said.

    So this highly representative pesantren body openly loathes freedom of religion, and backs suppression of Ahmadiyah by means of the Tri-Ministerial Diktat. Does it include in its ranks the schools ‘cooperating’ with Choirul and Nur at the Ministry….?

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    That’s just some of the story in that previous post, which admittedly was a while ago, but I’ve seen no news recording any change of heart among those intolerants.

    Besides that post, there are plenty more which illustrate all too plainly the vicious bigotry, and often violence, which animates too many of those who operate and are enrolled as ‘students’ at many pesantren.

    Here are just some of my previous posts in which pesantren get a mention, beginning with the one I just quoted from –

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    Pesantren Tantrum – ‘Students’ Rant Over a WORD!’ 

    Java ‘Santri’ Rabble’s War On ‘Zionism’ – Break A KFC Window! 

    gnorant Islamists Amok Again – Dissenters ‘Chased, Beaten With Iron Bars!’ 

    Rohani – Kidnapped by ISIS Scum -Not in Iraq But Just Miles From My Home! 

    Muslim School Burned by Angry Crowd – Police Enlist IslamoNazis to Counsel Kids! 

    Bima Bigot Bomb Base (aka ‘Islamic Boarding School’) – Confusion or Cover-Up? 

    Biting the Hand – IslamoNazi Mob Attacks Police Station 

    Islamic Boarding School Bomb Bigot Gets 17 Years – But His Demonic Disciples? 

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    All of which makes us question Lukman’s assertion that diversity is already an integral part of life at Islamic boarding schools, as students get to interact with a lot of people from different places and with different ethnic backgrounds.

    REALLY?

    DIVERSITY?

    Are these schools then not part of the All-Indonesia Council of Pesantren Leaders  (MSKP3I)? The major representative body for pesantren in the archipelago?

    “Diversity is a common theme at Islamic boarding schools. Diversity exists so that we can understand each other better, not to hate one another,” Lukman said.http://thejakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/news/islamic-boarding-schools-place-radicalism/

    Well, the MSKP3I sure sounds like it hates Ahmadiyah – and presumably anyone else who disputes its Sunni dogmas. Like I say, good luck to Lukman. He’s going to need it!

     
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