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  • ross1948 18:19 on March 19, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , Parakansalak, SBY, ,   

    Ever Heard Of Parakansalak? Time You Did! 


    Don’t know about back in The Old Country, but the BBC World we get here in Jakarta has been running show-off ads featuring famous folk they’ve interviewed.

    One such is President Jokowi, telling us how tolerant Indonesia is.

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    Maybe he could make a day-trip and ask the local authorities in Sukabumi, West Java what part of his broadcast they failed to understand.

    Their administrative area includes a place called Parakansalak, where dwell a number of Ahmadis.

    The Ahmadiyah are a peaceful, extremely inoffensive religious minority, but have been horribly persecuted here, for no reason, except Islamist intolerance.

    Examples?.

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

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    ahmadis transito 
    Savage bigots in Lombok destroy Ahmadi homes -100 cops just watched – and that wasn’t this month, it was YEARS ago. 
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    Ahmadi kids in ‘shelter’ after their families were driven out of their homes by vicious Islamists

    When President SBY was in power, a leader notable for his open mind on matters of religion…

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    ….a specifically discriminatory diktat was declared, the notorious Tri-Ministerial Decree.

    I used to hope Jokowi would chuck that diktat in one of his palace trash-cans, but so far, no such luck.

    Anyway, back to Parakansalak!

    Sadly, in 2008, their mosque was subjected to an arson attack by a mob of bigoted savages. After 12 years, the victimised community decided they should start reconstruction of their place of worship.

    According to the Jakarta Post, the local Ahmadi leader, a Mr. Asep  Saepudin, felt obliged, on 3rd March, to report intimidation to the National Commission on Human Rights (Komnas HAM)

    Why?

    It seems that work was going ahead at the mosque when a senior police officer, named Slamet Irianto, showed up and told the work-men to stop work.

    Why?

    This is where it gets weird.

    Remember, it’s a local top cop we’re talking about.

    The police chief said that a mob would come to the site and ransack the building if the builders continued.

    So he tells the good people to cower from evil savages?

    Surely he has officers at his nearby precinct whom he can summon, if the mob is detected in the vicinity.

    Surely the proper thing for a policeman of any rank is to take steps to ensure law-abiding folk can get on with their legitimate business.

    Surely if a pack of pig-ignorant louts seek to interfere, the cops, all armed here, could simply fire a warning shot, then take out a few of the scumbags if they refuse to scarper.

    The report gets even more nauseating the longer you read it, how local government turns out to be as unfamiliar with the concept of religious liberty as the cops there…

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    ….but here’s the link if you wish to use it.

    I try to write about the plight of the Ahmadiyah from time to time, but used to write a lot.
    I should get back to that level of frequency.
     
    • JazPen 22:45 on March 19, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I rememberer that.
      There was a lot if thuggery against the Ahmadis then, after the ‘scholars’ started bad-mouthing them.

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  • ross1948 13:08 on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    “Mohon Ma’af?” Blasphemous Brutes Vandalise Depok Mosque! 


    Mohon ma’af, ‘ is a common addition to Idul Fitri greetings here, people asking forgiveness for any wrongs they’ve done in the past year.

    I wonder if certain blasphemous bigots in Depok will walk over to the Ahmadi Mosque they vandalised this weekend….

    The vandals, who used motorcycles, threw eggs and paint at the mosque’s yard and front and back gates. “They also threw eggs at the mosque’s CCTV cameras so their actions would not be recorded,” Fatiatulo Lazira, a lawyer with the team, said. They also placed a banner expressing animosity toward Ahmadiyah near the mosque.

    ….and seek forgiveness.

    I doubt it. Islamist bigots have no conscience recognisable to normal human beings.

    I recall that evil mass-murderer, Imam Samoedra, one of the Bali Bomb Pigs..

      

    Imam Samoedra, with his two satanic co-killers

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    …being asked by a naive journo prior to his well-deserved execution, if he would be asking forgiveness.

    ‘Why would I ask forgiveness from kafir,’ was the monster’s retort.

    So no repentance likely among the backward beasts in Depok either, where the vandalised Ahmadi mosque had already been shut down by the sectarian local government’s goon-squad.

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    Hasil gambar untuk masjid ahmadiyah depok

    The mosque has been sealed off by the Depok administration seven times, with the most recent occurring on June 4.

    Nor is there any news from President Jokowi, who likes to talk about Indonesia’s pluralism, about any plan to repeal the notorious Tri-Ministerial Decree.

    The Ahmadis have long been persecuted in the country, with the government issuing a joint ministerial decree banning their activities in 2008.http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/24/ahmadiyah-mosque-in-depok-vandalized-ahead-of-idul-fitri.html

    At least the JP report has a few words on the source of  much of Indonesia’s intolerance, reminding us that it was the MUI’s dogmatic decree…

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    The  2005 Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) fatwa declaring the teachings of Ahmadiyah heretical

    which bigot bureaucrats  have used to shut down religious liberty in dismal Depok – more than once!

    I do suspect, however, that ‘heretical’  – and utterly inoffensive and peaceful  – Ahmadis today are saying ‘mohon ma’af’ for any little mistakes they have made, over the past 12 months, in good conscience, knowing that they have done nothing wrong in wishing to worship God Almighty in their own honourable way.

     

     
    • Kezia 20:49 on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      The MUI must ‘seek forgiveness,’ just like you say.
      Depok kampung criminals who attack the mosque are stupid with no education but MUI are older and not stupid only mean and full with intolerance. So many mean things happen after the MUI fatwa.
      Why will President Jokowi not protect Ahmadiyya people.
      The Ahmadi do no harm.

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    • Tyas 14:34 on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      And I agree with you Kezia, the MUI always make me feel like why do they shame our country.
      We since 1945 like to have freedom for all religion.groups.
      MUI do not.
      Eventhough I am Muslim

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  • ross1948 09:06 on May 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Gerakan Referendum Minahasa, , , Minahasa, , Permesta, , SBY,   

    Indonesia’s Morning After – What’s MinahExit Mean? 


    A sudden flurry of reports about something we have frankly never heard of before, the Gerakan Referendum Minahasa.

    That’s the Minahasa Referendum  Movement.

    And Minahasa refers to the ethnic group, largely Christian by faith, and good soldiers by tradition, who live in North Sulawesi.

    That’s also where the admirable protest took place against the arrival of an Islamist fanatic not long ago.

    Manado Mayhem! Jakarta Post Flouts Its Own ‘Bold’ Motto? 

    But it wasn’t till very recently that this GMR movement hit the headlines.

    Again, it’s important to note the coincidence of its appearance with the shocking imprisonment of the Christian Governor of Jakarta on bizarre ‘blasphemy’ charges.

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    No coincidence at all, really, because the driving force behind bringing Ahok to trial was an Islamist fanatic cabal, IslamoNazi FPI leaders in cahoots with the self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI.

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    Indonesian Press Day,’ 9th Feb – Fake News? If Only! 

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    Ahok behind bars symbolises the growing power of intolerance – if you can’t utter a quote from the Koran in public without risking draconian punishment, how many Christians, or Hindus, or Buddhists, can be expected to feel at ease in a society which thus degrades pluralism.

    The thing people overseas need to remember is that while Indonesia may be the largest Muslim majority country in the world, it’s also home to significant minorities of non-Muslims.

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    Bali, for example, is a Hindu island, while large Christian communities flourish in Ambon, North Sulawesi,Kalimatan (Borneo) and Sumatra ,where there are tough Bataks and a large Chinese ethnic minority in Medan. There’s also the Catholic island of Flores.

    And even in Jakarta, up to 10% of the capital’s population may be Christian, Buddhist or other religions.

    Sensible Indonesian leaders have always understood this and so religious tolerance was always not simply a moral focus but a recognition of how to keep the country together. That common-sense approach existed from the start, through Sukarno’s personality cult regime and Suharto’s dictatorship.

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    General Suharto

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    Now, however, fanatics have become a major influence in Indonesian politics. We have seen examples aplenty in recent years, outrageous intolerance against Buddhists…

    Tanjung Balai’s Burning Temples – A History of Bigotry! 

    …Hindus… Bali Hindu King – Don’t Kill Our Cows! Muslim ‘Scholars’ – Get Lost!!  …

    ….and of course Christians. Oppressed Christians In The Street Heat, In Pluralist Indonesia 

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    Under President SBY a ferocious discriminatory diktat was issued, the anti-Ahmadiyah Tri-Ministerial Decree, and despite President Jokowi’s talk of pluralism, persecuted Christians in Bogor, Bekasi, etc have had no justice.

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    The imprisonment of Ahok for ‘blasphemy’ has confirmed for many people, not just religious minorities but decent Muslims, true Indonesian conservatives who cling to the traditional tolerance referred to above, that one day, in the not too distant future, they could rise from their beds to the waking nightmare of an Islamic Republic.

    If that were to happen, then separatism could, would, be a serious threat.

    Again, please note, Indonesia does not, like the UK, afford separatists all normal rights and privileges.

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    SNP separatist leader Nicola Sturgeon

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    If some local equivalent of that ghastly Scots shrew Sturgeon started shrilling for ‘independence’ for any province or island, she’d be charged with treason, and if convicted, she’d have some real problems to whine about.

    In June 2007 in Ambon, these RMS political prisoners danced the Cakalele and raised the RMS flag in front of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono…

    RMS Political Prisoners Reunite With Families After 7-Year Wait

    Hardly surprising therefore that the local cops in Sulawesi were vigorously denying any sign of separatism, despite news photos clearly depicting referendum banners.

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    Hasil gambar untuk spanduk gerakan referendum minahasa

    http://news.metrotvnews.com/daerah/Rb1OZJ2K-kapolda-tak-ada-referendum-negara-minahasa

    http://www.tribunnews.com/regional/2017/05/15/jangan-biarkan-sulut-terpecah-belah-lmp-sulut-tolak-isu-referendum-minahasa

    But this ‘separatism,’ if separatism it is, is the inevitable consequence of Islamist intolerance. When decent folk of any religion see blood-thirsty fanatics treated as respectable notables by leading politicians, they recoil in disgust.

    But when that disgust is compounded by the realisation that their fundamnetal right to worship as they please is therefore under  threat, and when their form of worship corresponds to their local cultural heritage…?

    What else can the Government expect?

    I am no supporter of separatism. How the people of Indonesia arrange their affairs is up to them, and from 1945 they have generally been quite gifted in working out ways to live together.

    But I do hope, as somebody who has lived here happily for the best part of twenty years and has watched ever more sadly the rise of Islamist intolerance, that somebody in the corridors of power in Jakarta can, even at this eleventh hour, reverse the process of jihadist Arabisation.

    Viva Pancasila!

     

     
  • ross1948 21:17 on April 21, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , , multi-faith meeting, SBY, , U S Embassy   

    Mike Pence’s (Somewhat Limited?) ‘Multi-Faith’ Experience! 


    Most of the media mentioned how America’s VP Mike Pence happily joined in a ‘multi-faith’ gathering in Jakarta, after visiting the huge Istiqlal mosque.

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    Hasil gambar untuk multifaith meeting jakarta pence

    Mike in the Mosque

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    The actual ‘faiths’ included in the ‘multi-faith’ meet-up don’t seem to be identified, at least in the media I’ve looked at.

    But I am led to wonder if Mr. Pence had a chance to talk to representatives of one particular faith, the peaceful and inoffensive Ahmadiyah.

    They have been subjected to systematic discrimination, not only by dastardly Islamist bigot brutes…

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    …but also by local governments around the country…

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    In Squalid Internal Exile, Lombok Ahmadis Denied Voting Rights 

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    …AND by the Tri-Ministerial Decree… – .  http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom  …a notorious diktat issued by the Government of Indonesia under the previous President, SBY.

    Many of us expected, hoped at least, that when President Jokowi took over, he would annul the intolerant edict.

    He hasn’t.

    Did Mr. Pence’s Ambassador bring him up to speed with the persecution of these good citizens that began some years ago, reached a nadir at Cikeusik, when that mob of savages martyred three Ahmadis – nobody ever charged with murder – and continues today.

    Jakarta This Week – Blameless Minority Creed Hounded Again! 

    If Donald Trump’s V-P was properly informed on this shameful saga, one hopes he raised the issue at the ‘multi-faith’ meeting.

    If Mike Pence was unaware, it’s time to fire a few embassy flunkeys.

     

     

     
    • JazPen 22:48 on April 21, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Good, Ross,
      Its maybe late in the day but you are back to your good old form of defending Indonesia’s good people.
      I think deep down you know its too late but it still needs to be said.

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  • ross1948 09:06 on March 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Gafatar, , , , , , SBY   

    Ain’t Just Ahok – More Indonesian Dissenters Behind Bars! 


    While the strange spectacle of a 21st Century ‘blasphemy trial’ rumbles on in Jakarta, with the city’s Christian Governor Ahok facing a possible five year sentence for a humorous quip about a Koranic verse – yes, seriously!..

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    Governor Ahok

    “We encourage the government to process the death penalty for Ahok as soon as possible,” said Rizieq

    Good Muslims Speak Up For Threatened Christian Governor 

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    …there’s more bleak news for those of us who love Indonesia.

    In another Jakarta court, three men arrested for their involvement in the Gafatar movement, whose activities we have covered over recent years, most recently when we wrote the following…


    GAFATAR_GERAKAN_FAJAR_NUSANTARA_33‘Movement of the Indonesian Dawn’

    We posted on them last year, when some other cops collaborated with a mob of FPI thugs in another Indonesian province. https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/islamonazis-arrest-alleged-defamers-cops-collaborate/

    Gafatar is abundantly law-abiding and has made every effort to comply with local laws.

    “They have sought a permit to be able to conduct their group activities but I have not given it to them,” Johannis said.

    Why not?

    Johannis said their initial surveillance showed that the group was aimed at unifying differences in the country while mixing up several religious teachings.

    Oh, well, we can’t have that sort of nonsense, can we?

    Cops – “Islamist ‘Scholars’ Can Veto Religious Liberty” 

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    …have been sent to prison because – wait for it  – they had “contradicted and offended Islamic values held by most Indonesian citizens.”   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/03/07/gafatar-leaders-sentenced-to-years-in-prison-for-blasphemy.html

    One is tempted to say, so what?

    Indonesia’s current head of state, President Jokowi, often tells us how his country, ‘the largest Muslim democracy in the world,’ is ‘pluralist and tolerant.’

    “Our constitutional system honors and guarantees diversity and pluralism and it is our task to preserve these..”

    Pluralism Guaranteed by Constitution, says Jokowi

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    Many people had hoped that his campaign slogan ‘A Mind-Set Revolution,’ would herald a break from the oppressive attitudes that prevailed under his predecessor President SBY…

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    …who had actually suggested that Indonesia’s ‘blasphemy law’ be replicated WORLDWIDE!

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    Among other considerations, the court noted that prayers were not obligatory in the belief of the Gafatar movement, while the religion’s holy book said prayers were obligatory.

    So?

    No dissent from Islamic dogma allowed?

    And the court’s other excuse for jailing these harmless men?

    The judges also pointed to local rejection of the Gafatar movement’s activities in a settlement they had established in Mempawah, Central Kalimantan, as evidence that their belief was disturbing to other people.  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/03/07/gafatar-leaders-sentenced-to-years-in-prison-for-blasphemy.html

    So what, again?

    If some people get ‘disturbed’ because they hear opinions different from their own, those ‘disturbed’ would be well advised to grow up – sit down with Gafatar to debate these issues, or better still –

    MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS!

    But minding one’s own business, in matters of religious liberty, is a concept foreign to the outfit which needs to be recognised as the driving force behind the slither into a Dark Age.

    MUI-Indonesia

    Yup, you guessed it. Not a government department at all!

    The power to veto religious liberty lies, in this ‘tolerant pluralist’ land, with the Islamist self-styled ‘scholars’ of the MUI, the Indonesian Council of Ulemas!.

    “If the East Nusa Tenggara MUI does not recognize this group, this Gafatar group, then the government will ask law enforcers to disband the organization and take their leaders to justice,” he said.

    http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/east-nusa-tenggara-police-to-monitor-deviant-religious-group/567244

    Yes, the same MUI whence these enlightened words emanated.

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    • ma'arruf amin

    • Ma’aruf
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    It was MUI’s Deputy Chair, Ma’aruf, who kindly advised everyone that FGM is a ‘human right!’  

     https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/clitoral-clip-no-scraping-suffices-tell-us-islamist-scholars-why-do-it/

    And here’s another of their ‘scholars’ talking. 

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    Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta

    “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
     http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

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    God Save Indonesia from Islamist intolerance!

     
    • Wanita Jogja 16:58 on March 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Gafatar should be punished if they are doing something bad but there is no evidence for that.
      This sentence to prison for disagreeing with MUI is so unjust.
      Indonesia is going the wrong way faster and faster.
      I am glad you love our country more than the Islamists extremists do. They only want to change us into Arabs.
      Terima kasih banyak

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    • JazPen 09:25 on March 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      All good points, from Wanita Jogja and from you too Ross. Nothing in the press reports to justify why these men are in jail except that they disagree with one religions doctrines.
      Its a blot on Indonesia’s already blotted record and wont reassure people already worrying about whats happening to the country.

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  • ross1948 21:27 on February 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Another Triumph For Islamist Bigotry In Indonesia! 


    Sad to see another triumph of intolerance in Indonesia, with Islamists gloating over the suppression of religious liberty in Depok.

    As we predicted yesterday – West Java – Depok’s Damnable Dreary Bigotry, Again!  – a mob of bigots descended on the Ahmadiyah mosque,as the peaceful minority was about to carry out their Friday prayers at the mosque, on Friday (24/2) afternoon.

    Bit of a waste of time, because  the equally bigoted City Government of Depok had already sealed the innocent dissenters’ house of worship.

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    “There have been no reports of resistance at Ahmadiyah mosques when we sealed the place again,” he told local media on site. ‘However,’ he added, “if the seal was to be removed, there would be strict sanctions.”-Local cop, quoted in http://timesofahmad.blogspot.com.au/2017/02/indonesia-ahmadiyya-mosque-in-sawangan.html

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    Depok’s record of intolerance is quite spectacular – if you want a laugh, read this one from a few years back.–Islamist Bigot Biter Bit in West Java  

     Among the sectarian mob this weekend was Abdullah Shafi, local Muhammadiyah notable.

    Massa Ormas Protes Masjid Ahmadiyah di Depok

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    • That pretty well finishes off any pretensions by Muhammadiyah to be a voice for ‘moderate’ Muslims. 
    • Shafi evidently felt no shame at all in keeping company with the notorious IslamoNazi FPI…

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    IslamoNazi white-shirts at Depok

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    ….and the notorious FBR.

    There’s a few past posts about the FBR, which you can find via our ‘search’ box, just across to your right, but to facilitate your inspection of their bona fides…

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    Right On, Ratna! Activist’s All-Out Attack on IslamoNazis 

    …try that one!

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    Seems there were leaflets circulating among the rabble that essentially rejected the existence of Ahmadiyah and described it as a cult.

    Just to emphasise how infantile and vindictive they could be, the mob also asked Depok City Government to cut off electricity to the Ahmadiyya and urgently remove the contents from the Secretariat of the Ahmadiyah.

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    • Since nobody in the Presidential Palace seems to have recalled President Jokowi’s previous call for minorities, in Depok or anywhere in Indonesia to be left unharassed – . Jokowi Urges Cops To Protect Minorities – in Depok – I’ll quote at length what the Ahmadis have said in response.
    • “Masjid Al-Hidayah has been established since 1999, is open to the public and already has a building permit (IMB) as a place of worship and our home since 2007.” 
    • Mubarak claimed that Ahmadiyah has been actively involved in social activities…staying in touch with leaders and scholars in Sawangan and has never violated any law.
    • “Forced Closure of mosques by the municipal government that bases itself on SKB 3 minister and derivatives to Perwali Depok on Ahmadiyah is not based on the correct rules..”
    • For new readers, that SKB# is the infamous and grotesquely discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree – .  http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom 
    • – an intolerant sectarian diktat issued under former President SBY…
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    • SBY…yes, he’s the man who wants a worldwide ‘blasphemy law!’
    • SBY to ask the world to ban blasphemy | The Jakarta Post
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    • “We deplore the attitude of Depok City Government, as discriminatory and does not carry out its duty to protect its citizens to practice their religion…the right to association and assembly are guaranteed by the state through the constitution…”
    • Ahamdiyah also asked for assertiveness from the President, through the Minister of Internal Affairs, to ensure the Depok City Government does not preclude the right to worship and assemble…
    • Ahmadis also ask police officers to ensure security and the activities of worship that group.
     
    • JazPen 09:51 on February 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Its bad when there are so many really ‘moderate’ (sane) Muslims here in Indonesia but so few organisations that represent them.
      Muhammadiyah dont qualify and after that Gandaria City squall a few years ago, NU doesn’t have much credibility either.
      I think we have seen the best days of Indonesia unless Jokowi starts acting instead of just talking about pluralism..

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  • ross1948 15:40 on December 25, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    Xmas On Street For Victims of Indonesia’s Islamists 


    Even a God-awful newspaper can sometimes do something good.

    That was my reaction when I saw that the Jakarta Post had reported on the Sunday service opposite President Jokowi’s Palace downtown, held by two congregations that have suffered and are still suffering persecution by the nastiest Islamist bigots in the land.

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    Churches hold public service as reminder of their struggle

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/08/14/churches-hold-public-service-as-reminder-of-their-struggle.html

    Mind you, as far as I know, these oppressed Christians hold such protest services every second Sunday, so while the JP’s interest is welcome, it’s a pity they don’t report on the shameful state of affairs on a twice-monthly basis.  

    That report at the top of our page was published way back, several months ago. The oppressed Christians were there again today – I was in town but saw no sign of them, only to get home at 1.30pm and see on the internet that they planned a 2pm kick-off. 

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    The churches concerned, GKI Yasmin and HKBP Filadelfia, are denied access to their places of worship by a combination of brutal fanatic gangs and local governments which either lack the guts to stand up for religious liberty or are in cahoots with the vilest jihadist elements.

    Bekasi’s Islamist Regime – ‘We Won’t Allow Religious Liberty If Bigot Thugs Object!’ 

    That report concerns Bekasi, one such local authority, but another, Bogor, also in West Java, right next door to Jakarta, has recently shown its continuing contempt for civil and religious liberty…  

    Bigoted Bogor – City Seeks IslamoNazi Link-Up! 

    …and its mayor, once described, in all seriousness, as a ‘moderate’ Muslim, has shown himself every bit as coldly indifferent to the rights of these poor Christians as his avowedly Islamist predecessor who kicked off their oppression years ago.

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    bima-arya-sugiarto-ketua-dpp-pan Bogor Mayor Bima Arya

    X-Rated Xmas – Foul-Mouths Bully Christians, As ‘Moderate’Mayor Denies They Exist!’ 

    As for the other church, HKBP in Tambun, our reports on what they’ve had to go through in recent years are horrific to read.

    Christ’s Ascension Day – Islamist Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks 

    Nor was that the only occasion these peaceful Protestants faced that sort of stinking barrage from a stinking rabble!

    • Head-Scarfed Harpies Hurl Dung and Urine at Christians 

    • But while IslamoNazi thugs and benighted local local bigwigs are deplorable, what’s most distressing, perhaps, is the national government’s failure to enforce the law – in GKI Yasmin’s case, a ruling from the highest court in the archipelago.
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    • President SBY’s indifference to their plight was perhaps unsurprising, but I’m sure everyone who voted for Jokowi believed he was genuinely committed to the religious pluralism which was bequeathed to Indonesia by the nation’s founding fathers.
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  • ross1948 10:22 on November 13, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , , SBY, , , Zuhairi Misrawi   

    Ahok Defies Back-Stabbers And Sectarian Fanatics! 


    Since the bloody riot two Fridays ago, when gangs of Islamist hoodlums attacked police and shamed Indonesia before the assembled cameras of the world’s media, a lot of that overseas media have lost interest in what’s happening in Jakarta.

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    • Hasil gambar untuk Zuhairi Misrawi

    Zuhairi

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    • So for the sake of fair play, I must mention today a young Muslim leader named Zuhairi Misrawi.
    • Despite the Jakarta Post branding him an ‘intellectual,’ he sounds a sensible fellow. He belongs to the NU, the Nahdlatul Ulama, a very large organisation, which sometimes comes out with rational thoughts, and this is one of those times.

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    • Nu Nahdlotul Ulama
    • Zuhairi is urging the extremist so-called ‘scholars’ of the MUI, who are still state-funded, so far as I know…

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    fatwa mui sholeh

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    ….to back-track on their peculiar accusations of ‘blasphemy’ against Ahok, the Christian Governor of Jakarta.

    As has been obvious to everyone from the start of the controversy, Zuhairi points out that it’s based on a misquote of a speech the governor made that was uploaded to the internet.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/11/07/mui-must-retract-biased-statement-against-ahok-nu-activist.html

    We reported on Ahok’s reference to a Koranic verse before, and you can check that out…

    Half-Million Fanatics Descending On Jakarta? Peacefully!?! 

    …but it’s undoubtedly true that, if the issue had remained a case of notorious jihadist gang-groups caterwauling as usual, few normal Indonesians would have given a tinker’s cuss.

    But Zuhairi’s right.

     “The MUI is the source of all of these problems.”

    • mui hq

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    The self-styled ‘scholars’ will be miffed, I guess, but again overseas readers need to see some examples of what sort of thinking permeates their opulent HQ downtown.

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    • ma'arruf amin

    • Ma’aruf

    • ———-

    It was MUI’s Deputy Chair, Ma’aruf, who kindly advised everyone that FGM is a ‘human right!’  

     https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/clitoral-clip-no-scraping-suffices-tell-us-islamist-scholars-why-do-it/

    And here’s another of their ‘scholars’ talking. 

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    Syamsul Maarif,  General Secretary of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Jakarta

    “If the act of adultery is by a married person, then stoning is the sentence, while if unmarried, then it’s whipping,” he said.
     http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/mui-dukung-pelaku-kumpul-kebo-dipidanakan/32705

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    • Would you take anything they say seriously?
    • So why do the Jakarta Police?
    • However, encouragingly, the Jakarta police have also started to take a careful look at a certain Buni Yani.

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    Hasil gambar untuk buni yani ditangkap

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    He’s the character who uploaded the video which the nastiest elements in the archipelago then spread around to foment hatred against the Governor.

    Foment other people’s hatred, that is, because the nastiest elements have always hated him Jakarta Jew-Haters Boo Chinese Christian Candidate  , simply because of his race and religion and his habit of calling a spade a spade.

    Fanatic Islamist Wails At Christian Governor – “He Calls People Names!”  

    It seems this geezer has admitted making errors when transcribing the governor’s words before posting the footage.

    Bizarrely, Buni was quoted in Republika, a newspaper that might charitably be described as ‘Islamic,’ on Friday, as demanding that   Ahok supporters stop their provocations.

    Buni Yani Minta Pendukung Ahok Hentikan Provokasi

    http://www.republika.co.id/berita/nasional/politik/16/11/05/og581g377-buni-yani-minta-pendukung-ahok-hentikan-provokasi

    Meanwhile, Ahok is showing he’s made of the right stuff, refusing to stand down as a gubernatorial candidate despite chicken-sh-ts behind the scenes seeking to dissuade him. 

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    • ahok

    Ahok

    • Without naming the parties, Ahok said he had been asked to drop out on security concerns in the capital. He claimed the parties said demonstrations against him would continue if he stayed in the race.

    I wish he’d ID the culprits, but good to see the good guv ain’t taking any cr-p from creeps that crawl to the sectarians behind the ‘blasphemy’ ballyhoo.

     “I’d rather be arrested and jailed than drop out of the race,” Ahok said in the Pantai Mutiara area, North Jakarta, on Thursday

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/11/11/id-rather-be-arrested-and-jailed-than-drop-out-of-race-ahok.html

    Good for Ahok! I hope that the many millions of decent Muslims who live in Jakarta will endorse his courageous stand.

    If people must make an issue of religion in the election next year, which of course it shouldn’t be, my own view is that they should focus on ex-president SBY’s son, Agus Yudhoyono,  who is also running for Jakarta Governor.

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    • Hasil gambar untuk yudhoyono cagub
    • ——————

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    • freedom-of-religion
    • —————
    • Will Agus give a guarantee to protect freedom of religion in Indonesia’s capital?
     
  • ross1948 00:04 on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , SBY,   

    As Fanatic Friday Looms, Will Jakarta Shut Down? 


    A former student smsed me the other day, asking to borrow a text-book I’d once used to teach her and her friends, in my long-ago working days. Funny how time slips away – she’s married with kids now!

    Ever-obliging, I agreed to meet her at Slipi, equidistant between her office and my home.

    Yesterday morning was SO hot and sunny! But I applied a self-denying ordinance, which forced me to restrict my pre-noon sun-bathing in my front yard to a mere hour or so…

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    Hasil gambar untuk rednecks rule ok

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    …. but heck, some folks’ll start calling me a red-neck if I over-do it!


    lazy-sloth-14384269


    We duly met, and naturally enjoyed a chat, brief, because work awaited her return.

    However, it proved enlightening. It seems there’s a series of meetings throughout her quite prominent building tomorrow, all with the common agenda – to close on Friday or not.

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     Hasil gambar untuk shut-down

    —————–

    The reason?

    Of course, the expected inundation of Jakarta’s city centre by a horde of rabid jihadists…. …many, if not most, of whom subscribe to the insane idea that anyone who ‘blasphemes’ deserves to die.

    Managements are sympathetic but would prefer to make it a half-day rather than a whole day off.

    That’s bosses for ya!

    I remember in the past how school class-rooms here would be rendered almost empty during times of unrest -even on election days.

    Anxious parents would keep the kids safe at home. I suspect the same situation will recur tomorrow.  

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    • Hasil gambar untuk fear
    • ———-
    • On Friday, with that Islamist rabble out and about, and the cops on duty apparently to be left unarmed, I don’t blame any shop or office workers for being hesitant about venturing forth themselves. 
    • macetsemanggi1
    • Semanggi Junction, Jakarta
    • And of course even if they do leave home, their commuting journeys will be made wretched with thousands of malignant marchers clogging the roads, emanating blood-thirsty vines in all directions, as they have done before…

    ———–

    fpi kill busddhist

    ———–

    ….their short little ‘Long March’ may not stray beyond the central area around Monas Park, but the knock-on effect on traffic will extend for miles further.

    And all because the IslamoNazis element are unwilling to wait for the police to investigate a trivial ‘offence’ which should not be an offence at all.

    • jokowi
    • What’s hard to understand is why Indonesia’s President Jokowi was said to be considering inviting the FPI to discussions on the issue at the Palace.

    https://www.merdeka.com/peristiwa/bahas-ahok-jokowi-diusulkan-undang-fpi-ke-istana.html

    He shouldn’t give the white-shirt thug gangs house-room.

    ———– 

    At least President Jokowi has not emulated his predecessor, SBY.

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    sby300

    SBY

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    One must, Isuppose, be thankful for small mercies!

     
    • Prita 09:16 on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Very true Ross, we are not happy to go to our work when this march is going on.
      Many bad people on the street will make us want to be only at home.
      I also think Jokowi better not have FPI in his meeting. They are dangerous.

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    • santi 09:51 on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      I will not go to downtown tomorrow, crazy idea. Traffic jam everywhere and maybe riot.
      If you are in my area we can have coffee. There is a very nice warteg because I know you like warteg foods.

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    • Wulandari 11:00 on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      I do not work in Jakarta thanks god and have some worry for my friends who are there.
      I will telephone tonight to tell them to be in the house tomorrow and I will pray too for all good people in Jakarta to be safe from these fanatic.

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  • ross1948 13:15 on January 20, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , , SBY   

    Post-Sarinah – Jokowi Faces Fanatic Challenge in Bangka 


    The post-Sarinah assertions that Indonesia is a beacon of tolerance unbowed by Islamist evil is about to be put to the test.

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    •  Bangka Belitung (shaded)
    • —————————–
    • The bigots who run Bangka Regency, in Bangka Belitung province, are echoing ISIS’s eagerness to drive out a peaceful religious minority, the Ahmadis, simply because of how they worship God Almighty.
    • No official backing for violence, of course, but the intensity of the in-crowd’s intolerance is shocking.
    • And, as the innocent Ahmadis are apparently to be given a choice, turn apostate or face eviction, what happens to those who take a principled stand?
    • ——————-
    • ——————
    • jokowi

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    Now the ball is in President Jokowi’s court.

    He can sit back and let it happen, or he can uphold the Ahmadis’ constitutional right to religious liberty. The Ahmadiyah population is tiny up there, and in any case they are a completely inoffensive group.

    But still the haters want them gone.

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    • freedom-of-religion
    • ——————
    • “The government should protect the rights of citizens and promote dialogue among people, instead of getting involved in the conflict and making it worse,” Indonesian Ahmadiyah Congregation (JAI) spokesman Yendra Budiana said on Sunday.

    The Ahmadi spokesman was referring to a letter urging Ahmadiyah followers in Srimenanti subdistrict, Sungailiat district, to convert to the mainstream Sunni teachings of the Indonesian Muslim majority or face expulsion from the regency. 

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    Pemerintah Kabupaten melayangkan surat agar Jemaah Ahmadiyah di Bangka bertobat dan membubarkan diri, istimewa

    The Bangka bigots’ letter

    Underlining the malevolent fanaticism behind the message was its aggressive assertion that the JAI was forbidden from spreading its teachings in the regency. One expects this kind of backward bigotry from Hizbut Tahrir or the IslamoNazi FPI thug-gang.

    But the Jakarta Post report reveals that those attending the Religious Community Harmony Forum (what an incongruous name!) whence the diktat emerged included not  only the infamously intolerant self-styled ‘scholars’of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI)…

    —————–

    fatwa mui sholeh

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    ….but also local representatives of two major organisations that like to parade themselves as ‘moderate.’

    •  oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    din-syamsuddin-_120703152435-684 Din

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    • Will Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) and Muhammadiyah disown their district minions if they’re behind such jihadist nonsense? But then Muhammadiyah’s leading light, Din Syamsuddin, is also an MUI king-pin.

    But what’s arguably even worse is that the Bangka Police chief was also involved, not to protect and serve the latest targets of jihadist bullies, but to facilitate the persecution.

    In the meeting, the Bangka police chief and the district chief all called for the expulsion of Ahmadiyah followers.

    What is the National Police Chief going to do about his subordinate up there? Instant dismissal would be a good start, if the JP report is true.

    These disgusting antics are just another aspect of former President SBY’s legacy.

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    sby300 SBY

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    And he it was, also, who rubber-stamped the iniquitous Tri-Ministerial Decree.  

    I could refer you to many previous posts on that vile edict, but the JP gives a brief summary of its content. It ordered the Ahmadiyah community to “stop spreading interpretations and activities that deviate from the principal teachings of Islam.”.

    And who gets to say what’s deviant and what’s not?

    The MUI, of course! They are rather odd ‘scholars,’ in that they tend to skulk behind collaborationist cops rather than risk being bested in theological argument.  

    The MUI – Belligerence Is Bad News! 

    Those who violate the decree can face up to five years in prison.

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    ahmadiyah2

    Islamist pig revels in the martyrdom of 3 Ahmadis at Cikeusik

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    Following the decree, militant Islamists launched several violent attacks on Ahmadiyah followers including an attack in Cikeusik in February 2011 in which three Ahmadis were killed.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/01/18/protection-sought-ahmadiyah-bangka.html

    So.

    Will Jokowi act?

    Will the police replace their minion in Bangka?

     

     
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