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  • ross1948 11:37 on December 2, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , Goddess of the South Seas, , , , , Nyai Loro Kidul, philosophy, , , sectarian 'scholars', ,   

    Islamist Insanity – ‘He’s Married The Goddess of the South Seas!’ 

    Most of you, like me, lead lives concerned with enjoyment. It may be that you delight in your family, or your job, or sport, or party-going.

    Or all of the above!

    Life is short and it’s not a dress-rehearsal – apologies to those who believe in reincarnation, but that’s just how I feel about it. 

    That’s today’s intro, but here’s something to think about. 


    • nature “So the water, the soil, the sun, the air become a composite, energy for the welfare of society without exploitation, because that people obey the law of nature is a certainty.”


    Wow! A bit heavy, but harmless, yeah? And anyone who propounds such ideas should not be harassed or hounded for doing so?

    Pause for general agreement. Ooops!

    Not in West Java, not even if the ideas come from a senior local government position, like Dedi Mulyadi, Regent of Purwakarta. He’s not only a notable but a thinker, and a writer, and he’s written a book setting forth his thoughts on the nature of life and the universe.

    He seems to be a likeable chap.



    Good for him. Or not.

    Because ‘some Muslims are uneasy.’ And ‘scholars are fretful.‘   http://nasional.tempo.co/read/news/2015/11/30/058723573/dilaporkan-fpi-ke-polda-begini-reaksi-bupati-purwakarta

    So says the local IslamoNazi FPI chief, a ‘scholar’ himself.

    The ‘scholars’ mentioned are hardly what normal folk think of as scholars. They are ulema, steeped in Islamist dogma but that’s where their ‘learned’ status stops. But even they don’t usually come out with the sort of rank hogwash we heard from one infamous Islamist bigot.

    He has accused Dedi of secretly marrying Nyai Loro Kidul, the legendary Goddess of the South Seas.


    Habib Rizieq (left) with the nastiest terrorist convict in the country, Abu Bakr Bashyir

    • Guess who?

    Yup, it’s the ‘high priest’ of the FPI, Habib Rizieq! 


    •  Hmm…A man could do worse!
    • =================================
    • Although large numbers of Javanese worship her ( and that ticks off the Islamists no end!) she doesn’t appear too often.
    • Like I say, a legend. Locals don’t wear green on the Parangtritis beach, for fear she’ll take a fancy to them and carry them off, into her oceanic domain. 

    No wonder Dedi’s laughing about that IslamoNazi berk’s babblings! 

    But here’s where it gets beyond a joke.

    In response to complaints from the white-shirt gang, West Java Police are investigating Dedi!

    The report will be explored by the Special Criminal investigation team…


    Who gives a monkey’s if some Muslims or some Catholics, or Protestants, or Hindus, are uneasy. They should be told to take a chill-pill and grow up!

    And if those dogmatic drones, the ‘scholars,’ are in a fret, that’s hardly news at all. The curmudgeonly old (and sadly young) ‘clerics’ spend much of their time seemingly searching for fret-producing issues, and invent them if they can’t find them.

    •  –


    • Dedi’s book, for example, was published long ago, but only now has some sectarian sticky-beak stumbled on it as a whine-excuse. 

    Nonetheless, when are the relevant authorities going to tell the nasty fanatics who infest this country that wasting police time is not just anti-social, but also a prosecutable offence – or should be.

    • Indonesian_National_Police_General's_Visor_Hat
    • Given the amount of real crime, not least shameless corruption in high places, Indonesia’s Police must have better things to do than investigate sane people just because demented dorks are in a tizzy about a book.

    Alas, there is a pool of intolerance in this beautiful archipelago, exemplified by Gramedia, one of the largest publishing companies, which owns many media, including the pretend-pluralist Jakarta Post.

    burning books Gramedia’s Nazi-style book-burning

    The management of that collaborationist company grovelled despicably to the most mean-spirited jihadists only a year or so ago, revelling in a Nazi-style public book-burning.

    Grovelling Gramedia’s BookBurning Bonanza – Appeasing Fanatics 

    The book’s ‘crime’ then was the same as Dedi’s book’s now – dissing religion.


  • ross1948 09:58 on August 25, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bukhori, carpenter, , Hey-Soos, ID card. East java, , , , man's name, , Rawhide, , sectarian 'scholars', Tuhan   

    OMG! Islamist ‘Scholars’ Want Carpenter Punished – For His Name! 

    Up early today, if you think 9am is early…




    As every Indonesian knows, if you don’t have an official ID card, the KTP, your life is far from easy. Never mind you can’t vote – basic government services require its production at just about every level.

    Hence to take a man’s KTP away is a pretty savage blow!

    So why am I not at all surprised at the uptight MUI’s latest vindictive shrilling.


    Heboh Pria Bernama Tuhan: MUI Minta KTP-nya Ditarik...  


    The East Java chapter of the Indonesian Council of Ulemas (MUI) urged Banyuwangi authorities on Monday to revoke the identity card of a carpenter named Tuhan (which means God in Indonesian) so that he could not access any public services until he changed his name.

    What an obnoxious demand to make! It’s none of these ‘scholars’ business what name a man goes by.

    Nor the Government’s.

    In Latin countries, there are loads of guys named Jesus.

    When we watched Rawhide as kids, religious sensitivities were safeguarded by those who compiled the credits at the end of the weekly Western tv show, by the simple expedient of spelling it ‘Hey-Soos.’


     ‘Hey-Soos’ (Robert Cabal)

    Rowdy, Pete, Quince, and Hey Soos are captured by a band of Cheyennes…Rawhide Season 4 Full Episode 5 – Lost Tribe – YouTube

    But the cowpoke’s name was Jesus, and no plans were ever proposed to burn any of his numerous real-life namesakes at the stake for bearing the same name as the Son of God. Nor to grab his social security card, or his ability to apply for a driving licence, or to get married!

    We ‘WASPs’ might have regarded those Latino Jesuses as a bit OTT, but only an arch-bigot would seek to deny such hombres essential health, education or welfare services.

    But in East Java?

    Among the ‘Scholars?’





    • Arch-bigots? Aaah, well…

    East Java MUI chairman Abdusshomad Bukhori said it was not ethical for a person to choose Tuhan as a name for a human being. “[He should] add something before or after the name, or better yet, change his name,” Abdusshomad said as quoted by kompas.com.

    Entitled to offer the man advice, maybe…but then to demand the authorities intimidate him!?!

    Yet once we see Bukhori is the niggler in the woodpile, we need hardly read on.

    This MUI fanatic used to grace our blog posts time and again, sometimes due to his kill-joy mentality  –


     Ignorant Islamists in hate demo against Miss World


    …as bigoted against religious dissenters as he is against Miss World contestants.      https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/islamist-scholar-warns-of-miss-world-conflict-prediction-threat-or-promise/ 

    • ….but much more seriously because of his rancid intolerance. 

    “If the governor is pleased, MUI propose that the Shia doctrine be also prohibited like the Ahmadis in East Java. Regulation 55/2012 was set up in general, there is no specific sentence on Shia,” East Java MUI chairman KH Abdusshomad Buchori told reporters at the office of the Governor of East Java after a meeting of the scholars’ Ulama Board  Pesantren Madura (Basra) with Deputy Governor Gus Ipul, Tuesday (10/23/2012).

    This old fanatic seriously think religious dissent should be OUTLAWED!


    • freedom-of-religion
    • ======================
    • The inoffensive Ahmadiyah, and his Shia neighbours – he’d deny them the right to worship Tuhan – God Almighty – in their own peaceful way?

    That’s his idea of what’s ETHICAL?

    And he doesn’t even believe in allowing others to discuss his outfit’s bigotry.



    “Don’t Even TALK About Our Intolerance!” MUI ‘Scholars’ 


    It’s been a while, but always a joy to welcome him back, frothing and foaming as heartily as ever. I’ll try to keep track of where this latest imbecilic witch-hunt ends up.

    Meanwhile, that poor carpenter… 

    Forty-two-year-old Tuhan, who is the youngest of seven siblings, had no idea why his parents, Jumhar and Dawiyah, decided to call him “God.”  http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/08/24/east-java-mui-urges-revocation-tuhans-id-card.html

    • StanThe Man 10:20 on August 25, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Mad, bad and dangerous to know. said somebody of Lord Byron.
      Never have heard of this fellow in East Java till today but I think the same should be said for Bukhori. .


    • Ernawati 12:41 on August 25, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      How stupid to tell somebody to change names. Father and mother have right to choose name for child. Not this old hate-man in East Java..


  • ross1948 14:46 on August 4, 2015 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , sectarian 'scholars', ,   

    Cameron’s Surprising Indonesian Imports! 

    Slightly surprised to read today that 50 cops are leaving Jakarta soon for the UK, where they will be given counter-terrorism training…


    • Densus-88
    • ……………………….

    Taking Out Terrorism – Indonesia’s Densus 88 Doing A Fine Job! 

    So much so that the Dark Agers have been demanding the unit be shut down! 

    devil destroyed Jakarta Jihadis V Anti-Terror Cops – A ‘VEILED’ Threat? 

    Maybe the British cops can learn something from their Indonesian guests!


    But the same BBC news item also included this fascinating sentence, where Cameron says the UK would “seek to learn” from Indonesia’s approach to countering extremism “with an exchange programme between religious and community leaders here and in the UK to foster a better understanding of what works.” UK and Indonesia agree ‘anti-IS plan’

    If Cameron really thinks that the government-recognised and state-subsidised ‘religious leaders’ here – the MUI – are fit and proper persons to foster anything, except grotesque intolerance…
     …and the disgusting practice of female circumcision….
    • ma'arruf amin  MUI’s Ma’ruf
    • —————

    Kiai Hajj Amin Ma’ruf, pointed out that it is an”advisable practise on moral grounds…he rejects any attempt to declare this practice illegal or contrary to the principles. It comes under the sphere of “human rights,” said the Islamist leader, and is “guaranteed by the Constitution.”    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Indonesian-Ulema-in-favour-of-female-circumcision:-a-humanright-26948.html




    ….if Cameron thinks that lot are worth consulting, then he’d be best advised to sack whatever passes for the information-gathering section in that lovely new British Embassy down Jalan Rasuna Said.
     UK embassy
    Get hold of some people who are familiar with what those sectarian ‘scholars’ are really all about.
    NB -there are decent Muslim clerics/scholars here but the MUI is the official organisation and if the Indonesian Government is arranging the ‘exchanges,’ then logically it’s to the MUI they’ll turn.
    • Interested Onlooker 19:28 on August 6, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Do you know the process by which information/intelligence is gathered by the embassy, which sources it comes from and by whom it is collated and disseminated back to Her Majesty’s government? Also, when you say “get hold of some people who are familiar with what those ‘sectarian’ scholars are really all about”, to whom do you refer?


      • ross1948 21:16 on August 6, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        Hello, I.O.

        I am not into publishing comments from people who clearly are concealing their real names, but since – unlike one or two morons (probably one) who have attempted obnoxious input recently – you are coherent and avoid insults, here you are.

        I assume those questions are rhetorical, but I will answer one or two of them when you identify yourself and your purpose in asking them.
        I will say that there are some people in the UK diplomatic outpost who obviousy have too much time on their hands and could be made to do honest work instead of interfering in Indonesia’s internal affairs on the issue of capital punishment.


    • Interested Observer 22:50 on August 6, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Hi again,

      It’s interesting this policy you have of selectively requesting real names or identities in order to publish comment or criticism. Both major English dailies and most Indonesian newspapers here do not apply such stringent conditions to their comments sections and since you represent yourself as part of the media here,
      I find it strange that you do this.

      Furthermore, those regularly posting comments here do so under assumed monikers, for example “Bristol”, “Gimlet Eye” and “Jazpen”. Moreover, there is nothing to identify you on this blog, save for those who supposedly know you in real life leaving comments occasionally, and your blog lacks a section giving biographical details on its author(s).

      It seems somewhat evasive that you shut down discussion by asking for identification when other media in Jakarta allow for vigorous comment under assumed names. If you wanted to enforce this, you could use a comments platform that required registration or verification of identity.

      Your final sentence in the reply above is somewhat of a red herring. My inquiry was to your knowledge of information gathering processes by embassy staff and not to other unrelated activities they may or may not carry out. Are you trying to suggest that this process is compromised by those whose job it is to do so devoting time to other tasks? If so, how do you know this and can you present evidence to support this? Who in particular has too much time on their hands. What percentage of their working time is devoted to “interfering in Indonesia’s internal affairs”?

      But I am really interested to know who should be informing the UK government about anti-radicalisation efforts, in your opinion. Do you suggest the task be handed to someone like Sidney Jones, formerly of the International Crisis Group and now heading IPAC, a group that devotes much of its efforts to understanding the causes of violent radicalism in Indonesia. Or perhaps you mean Noor Huda Ismail of the International Institute for Peace Building, who is on the front lines of de-radicalisation efforts. Both speak frequently at a range of events in Jakarta and are highly regarded by business people, diplomats, local and foreign law enforcement and others with an interest in the subject. A simple Google search will show how often their opinions on such matters are cited by a range of media, and both have an extensive body of research available mostly online for free.

      Yes, my questions where rhetorical. I get the feeling that by “people who are familiar with what those ‘sectarian’ scholars are really all about”, you are referring to yourself. If this is the case, have you ever addressed any of the numerous forums that are devoted to such issues around Jakarta such as the JFCC or OSAC? Or do you act as a consultant offering services on such matters to embassies or other potential clients? If so, do you have information outlining the scope and costs of such services? Are you able to identify other players in the market place who offer such services and how yours differs as offers valuable and unique insight into the complex issue of radicalisation and inter-faith relations in Indonesia? If not, can you suggest someone who might offer such services in lieu of those doing so now?

      I really appreciate you taking the time to reply and hope you will excuse this somewhat lengthy response, but I think we can both agree that it is important that media, bloggers included, are held to account and that what is written does not go unchecked. Thanks and all the best.



      • ross1948 23:34 on August 6, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        Aha, a serious critic.
        You deserve a few brief responses, sir, for being civil, which is one reason i operate a selective comments admission policy. We used to have one particular clown who ranted about his alleged military record but was too timid to reveal himself, and while there are blogs, and Jakarta English-language papers, that seem to revel in that sort of thing, I don’t. This is not a debating club. It’s a platform for conservative opinion (and for some frivolous fun now and then – which is why Bristol and co. get free rein)
        There was, and probably still is, a blog which had to-ing and fro-ing that lasted for months, maybe years, by maybe half-a-dozen guys, on a single topic. I found that boring and did not want to replicate it here.
        Sidney Jones, yes I met her briefly at a meeting here in jakarta, dashed fine woman. I quoted one of her publications recently.
        Moving on, I would be flattered if the diplomatic corps rang me up for advice but their political masters don’t currently have much time for conservatives, so i don’t sit breathless by the phone. .
        Nor am I touting for business.
        But I do follow the hogwash spouted by MUI ‘scholars’ and am amazed at the thought of any of them going to the UK to advise on anything. That’s what the post was about, that got you asking. I’m perplexed – why would Cameron think to invite any such ‘scholar’ Surely, his local flunkeys must have told him that? We must wait and see who does go overseas.
        There are, as I said in the post, some very good, honourable ulemas here. But even decent chaps like the current Minister of Religion legitimise IslamoNazis by treating them as respectable citizens worthy of a welcome mat..
        My ‘secret identity’ is truly the name at the top of the blog, and if you actually live in Jakarta it’s not so hard to find people who know me, both friends and foes.
        You can even probably find some of the ripping yarns I’ve published over my years in town, but although I have a laugh sometimes with posts on my search for decent eateries,etc., this blog is not really about me.
        The West is in crisis, and having spent many years doing what I could to resist the triumph of what I regard as evil, this is my residual contribution to the cause.
        I rarely reply to comments, and never as long as this, but you are polite, so there you are. But no more.
        Otherwise it will become like the JP comments’ column, a hideous snake-pit.


    • JazPen 09:40 on August 7, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Hello Int
      Since you mentioned me, I am just joining in to say that Ross knows who I am and so he doesnt need to ask for my name rank or number.
      I dont really care who you are but you must have done something right to get such a long answer from our host.
      He gets some real nuts commenting like that mentally ill guy last year who told him to ‘just die.’
      I dont blame him for cutting them off.


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