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  • ross1948 05:50 on February 6, 2021 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Freedom of Religion in Indonesia, Tri-Ministerial Decree   

    February 6th – Cikeusik Remembrance Day! 


    And once more we should spend at least a two minutes silence, on the anniversary of a day that will live in infamy…

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    ….when a mob of vile, cowardly sectarian scum besieged a handful of innocent men then brutally murdered them.

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    i won’t go yet again into the horror of the Cikeusik Pogrom.

    February 6 – Nine Years Ago, But Cikeusik Pogrom Never Forgotten! 

    Instead you may look at some or all of what I have written annually…

    Lest We Forget – Cikeusik 2011 – Anniversary Of An Islamist Pogrom 

    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/indonesia-ahmadiyah-trial-prosecution-or-persecution/

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

    ….to remind readers of how foul this crime against humanity was.

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    Facebook’s Status – Enemy Within – Exposed Again

    But this year, might we not hope that, with President Jokowi having appointed a good man with a good record of recognising what’s right and what’s wrong…

    Jakarta New Year Hope? Pak Gus Pondering Repeal? 

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    Menakar Kapasitas Yaqut Cholil Qoumas sebagai Menteri

    Yaqut Cholil Qoumas…

    Indonesia – Fiery Fury Over Freedom Banners – But Good For Gus! 

    …that the repeal of that abhorrent Tri-Ministerial Decree might be on his agenda.

     
    • Jim Ex Jakarta 07:28 on February 6, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      You never forget that outrage.
      None of us should.

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    • Kezia 08:43 on February 6, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      Good that you remember and make us remember.
      I hope Gus Yaqut will give back religious freedom to everyone. The Three Ministers Decree was unjust and we do not forget who was President of Indonesia when it happened.

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    • Santi 09:09 on February 6, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      It was such a wicked crime.
      Thank you for always remembering.

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    • Widya Jogja 09:55 on February 6, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      Very important we remember and support government and police when they are fight against ISIS and other bad extremists.
      Already there is ban on Hizbut Tahrir and FPI.
      This is progress.

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    • JazPen 21:01 on February 6, 2021 Permalink | Reply

      I knew you would not forget this crime against hunanity.
      You never have so far.
      Well done, Ross.

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  • ross1948 19:22 on December 31, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , Tri-Ministerial Decree   

    Jakarta New Year Hope? Pak Gus Pondering Repeal? 


    You may remember we commended words of wisdom from a man named Yaqut Cholil Qoumas a while ago….
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    Menakar Kapasitas Yaqut Cholil Qoumas sebagai Menteri

    Yaqut Cholil Qoumas…

    Indonesia – Fiery Fury Over Freedom Banners – But Good For Gus! 

    Known to his friends as Gus, he held the chairmanship of the moderate G.P. Ansor and we mentioned that he was also a parliamentarian.

    Now he’s Indonesia’s Minister of Religion, a very good choice by President Jokowi, but he has a lot of work to do, if he is to turn his decent aspirations into reality.

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    ‘….if there are different beliefs, there should be no reason that the largest group persecutes..’ 

    : 6 Important Points of Gus Yaqut’s Statement about Ahmadiyah and Shia

    “This is the first basic stance the government will hold,” he said. 

    Good to hear.

    But the evil done to the innocent Ahmadis for years is a continuing crime that cries to Heaven for redress.

    I refer to the theft, arson, brutality and murder which followed in the wake of that discriminatory diktat.

    One or two glances at previous posts will be enough to bring new readers up to date. 

     https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/depok-jadi-kota-pki-islamist-council-grabs-private-property-communist-style

    Ahmadi Koran burned by Islamists in Cisalada, 2011

    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/west-java-islamists-again-attack-ahmadis-blame-foreign-journos/

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

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    Savage bigots in Lombok destroy Ahmadi homes -100 cops just watched – and that wasn’t this month, it was YEARS ago. 
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    Ahmadi kids in ‘shelter’ after their families were driven out of their homes by vicious Islamists


    The Tri-Ministerial Decree was issued during the presidency of SBY…

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    …a leader renowned for his open, pluralist outlook!

    But Pak Gus, the new Minister, is, to the best of my knowledge, both a decent and tolerant man.

    Regarding the Joint Decree of the Minister of Religion and the Minister of Home Affairs Number 9 and 8 of 2006 which are said to limit the construction of places of worship, Gus Yaqut said he would read and study them.

    “I have to read it first. I’ve only been in for two days, sir. But surely I will study it in the near future,” said Gus Yaqut.

    Please be a fast reader, Pak.

    Justice delayed is justice denied. 

     
  • ross1948 11:16 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , mesjid, petisi kebebasan beragama, SKB, , Tri-Ministerial Decree,   

    Petisi – Kebebasan Beragama! Freedom Of Religion! 


    Link petisi : https://www.change.org/p/joko-widodo-cabut-skb-tentang-pelarangan-ibadah-dan-renovasi-masjid-al-aqso-ahmadiyah-singaparna-tasi?

    Since this petition is for Indonesian citizens only, I am just giving you a quick explanatory quote from another media source…

    …the Al-Aqsa Mosque owned by the Ahmadiyah community in Tasikmalaya, West Java, was sealed off by the local government on the pretext of social distancing measures to prevent transmission of COVID-19….

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    Please note -West Java has featured often in our blog!

     

    Ahmadi Koran burned by Islamists in Cisalada, 2011

    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/west-java-islamists-again-attack-ahmadis-blame-foreign-journos/

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    “This discriminatory action has been taken under the pretext of preventing greater resistance by local residents against Ahmadiyah group, not for public health reasons,” Usman told BenarNews.

    Bonar Tigor Naipospos of the Setara Institute, a human rights organization in Jakarta, urged the government to abolish blasphemy laws and revise the criminal code…

    https://www.benarnews.org/english/news/indonesian/religious-freedom-04292020180232.html

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    It has long been a source of sadness to me, as someone who loves Indonesia, to watch this lovely country’s good name blighted by sectarian bigotry, against not only Ahmadis…

    February 6 – Nine Years Ago, But Cikeusik Pogrom Never Forgotten!

    ….but Christians too…

    …so I think this petition deserves to be circulated as widely as possible.

    1. Our support, solidarity and sympathy towards Al-Aqso Mosque, Tasikmalaya, who are experiencing problems with the government….

    2. Requesting immediate revocation of the Joint Decree of the Tasikmalaya Regent, Head of the District Prosecutor, regarding the Refusal of Mosque Renovations, and Worship Facilities as well as Congregational Da’wah Activities of Ahmadiyah Indonesia (JAI)

    3. Asking the relevant parties to take down banners in the area near Al Aqsa Mosque, located in Kp. Badakpaeh, Cipakat Village, Kec. Singaparna, Tasikmalaya Regency which contain the Joint Decree of the Minister of Religion, Attorney General, and Minister of Home Affairs of the Republic of Indonesia 2008…

    Konstitusi Undang-Undang 1945 menyatakan; Setiap orang bebas memeluk agama dan beribadah menurut agamanya, memilih pendidikan dan pengajaran, memilih pekerjaan, memilih kewarganegaraan, memilih tempat tinggal di wilayah negara dan meninggalkannya, serta berhak kembali.

    Setiap orang berhak atas kebebasan meyakini kepercayaan,menyatakan pikiran dan sikap, sesuai dengan hati nuraninya. Setiap orang berhak atas kebebasan berserikat, berkumpul, dan mengeluarkan pendapat. (Pasal 28 E ayat (1), (2), (3), UUD 1945). Negara berdasar atas Ketuhanan yang Maha Esa. Negara menjamin kemerdekaan tiap -tiap penduduk untuk memeluk agamanya masing-masing dan untuk beribadah menurut agamanya dan kepercayaannya itu. (Pasal 29 ayat (1), (2), UUD 1945 ).

    Kebebasan beragama yang dijamin konstitusi Undang-Undang Dasar 1945 berlaku bagi semua warga negara tidak terkecuali warga/anggota Jemaat Ahmadiyah (JAI) dan merupakan hak asasi manusia yang tidak dapat dikurangi (non derogable right) dalam keadaan apapun (Pasal 28I ayat (1), UUD 1945).

    Jemaat Ahmadiyah Indonesia adalah organisasi legal formal berbadan hukum, dengan SK Menteri Kehakiman RI No. JA, 5/23/13 Tgl.13-3-1953.
    Artinya, Jemaat Ahmadiyah Indonesia adalah organisasi yang mempunyai hak untuk hidup di seluruh wilayah Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia (NKRI), termasuk di Kabupaten Tasikmalaya….

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    Link petisi : https://www.change.org/p/joko-widodo-cabut-skb-tentang-pelarangan-ibadah-dan-renovasi-masjid-al-aqso-ahmadiyah-singaparna-tasi?

     
    • Kezia 12:48 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I will try to find many people to sign.
      Ahmadis must be free to worship and to spread their faith as much as other Muslims an Christians and Buddhists too.

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    • Jim Ex Jakarta 14:16 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I would have been disappointed in you if you had not written about the petition, Ross.
      What the Ahmadis have suffered over the years has been shocking.

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      • JazPen 18:10 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Too true Jim.
        Ross has been defending their right to religious freedom for all those years.
        I hope that petition gathers momentum until those people can use their mosque again,

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    • Santi 15:05 on May 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I hope they get a million names to the petition!
      I wish President Jokowi will sign it too!

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  • ross1948 18:19 on March 19, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , Parakansalak, , Tri-Ministerial Decree,   

    Ever Heard Of Parakansalak? Time You Did! 


    Don’t know about back in The Old Country, but the BBC World we get here in Jakarta has been running show-off ads featuring famous folk they’ve interviewed.

    One such is President Jokowi, telling us how tolerant Indonesia is.

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    Maybe he could make a day-trip and ask the local authorities in Sukabumi, West Java what part of his broadcast they failed to understand.

    Their administrative area includes a place called Parakansalak, where dwell a number of Ahmadis.

    The Ahmadiyah are a peaceful, extremely inoffensive religious minority, but have been horribly persecuted here, for no reason, except Islamist intolerance.

    Examples?.

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

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    ahmadis transito 
    Savage bigots in Lombok destroy Ahmadi homes -100 cops just watched – and that wasn’t this month, it was YEARS ago. 
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    ahmadiyah2-e1285119271327

    Ahmadi kids in ‘shelter’ after their families were driven out of their homes by vicious Islamists

    When President SBY was in power, a leader notable for his open mind on matters of religion…

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    ….a specifically discriminatory diktat was declared, the notorious Tri-Ministerial Decree.

    I used to hope Jokowi would chuck that diktat in one of his palace trash-cans, but so far, no such luck.

    Anyway, back to Parakansalak!

    Sadly, in 2008, their mosque was subjected to an arson attack by a mob of bigoted savages. After 12 years, the victimised community decided they should start reconstruction of their place of worship.

    According to the Jakarta Post, the local Ahmadi leader, a Mr. Asep  Saepudin, felt obliged, on 3rd March, to report intimidation to the National Commission on Human Rights (Komnas HAM)

    Why?

    It seems that work was going ahead at the mosque when a senior police officer, named Slamet Irianto, showed up and told the work-men to stop work.

    Why?

    This is where it gets weird.

    Remember, it’s a local top cop we’re talking about.

    The police chief said that a mob would come to the site and ransack the building if the builders continued.

    So he tells the good people to cower from evil savages?

    Surely he has officers at his nearby precinct whom he can summon, if the mob is detected in the vicinity.

    Surely the proper thing for a policeman of any rank is to take steps to ensure law-abiding folk can get on with their legitimate business.

    Surely if a pack of pig-ignorant louts seek to interfere, the cops, all armed here, could simply fire a warning shot, then take out a few of the scumbags if they refuse to scarper.

    The report gets even more nauseating the longer you read it, how local government turns out to be as unfamiliar with the concept of religious liberty as the cops there…

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    ….but here’s the link if you wish to use it.

    I try to write about the plight of the Ahmadiyah from time to time, but used to write a lot.
    I should get back to that level of frequency.
     
    • JazPen 22:45 on March 19, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I rememberer that.
      There was a lot if thuggery against the Ahmadis then, after the ‘scholars’ started bad-mouthing them.

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  • ross1948 01:10 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Deden the hero, , February 6th 2011, , Islamist pigs, , Tri-Ministerial Decree   

    February 6 – Nine Years Ago, But Cikeusik Pogrom Never Forgotten! 


    I was at home in West Jakarta when we saw the TV news. I was shocked, but also angry, that this sectarian atrocity took place while police were present.

     

    I was angrier still at the grotesque mockery of justice that followed…

    https://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/indonesia-ahmadiyah-trial-prosecution-or-persecution/

    …the filthy murderous pigs who martyred those innocent Ahmadis…

    Islamist pig at Cikeusik

    …the HANDFUL of those pigs ( out of a thousand cowardly Islamist bigots!) who were eventually prosecuted given derisory sentences…

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    Facing a Mob of Islamist Savages – Deden the Brave, Sent to Prison

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    …and Deden, the one brave survivor of the slaughter?

    Victim of Islamist Murder Mob Gets Six Months in the Slammer 

    ……double the sentence meted out to an evil young primitive named Dani, whom you may see on the horrible video, dashing a rock down on the head of a helpless Ahmadi.

     
    Dani the Primitive

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    Sickening!

    And yet for all the fine talk of pluralist democracy, of a Mind-Set Revolution, that we have heard in recent years…

    …there has been no move to repeal that oppressive Tri-Ministerial Decree  –https://jakartaglobe.id/news/ahmadiyah-followers-indonesia-attacked/–  promulgated during the time in office of previous president, Democrat Party nominee SBY…

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    …a diktat that deprived the blameless and peaceful Ahmadi minority of the fundamental freedom to worship as they wished.

    It still makes me angry, but I no longer hope that religious liberty will be restored in my lifetime.

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    Writing about it helps, a little.

    Though when I tried to do so on Facebook, Zuckwit erased me….

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    …for showing the video of the demonic mob. You need a string stomach to watch it, but it’s to be found in another of my older posts, here..

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    • Kezia 08:08 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you for reminding us of that terrible day.

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    • Santi 08:34 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      So bad and so sad day for the Ahmadiyah and for Indonesia.

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    • Rawel 10:19 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      A very true horror story Where is justice?
      Thankyou for remember.

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    • Asrofin 10:35 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      The mob shamed Indonesia.
      The killers deserved death penalty.

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    • Tyas 13:41 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Horrible what happen in Cikeusik..
      The murderers nevet got punished.
      Very bad for Indonesia.
      We are shamed.

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    • JazPen 15:17 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I think a lot of us will never forget how those judges behaved towards rhat poor Ahnadi survivor of the attack.
      Keep it up, Ross, a yearly reminder.

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    • Maurie Taylor 16:28 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      A story I’d not have heard, Ross, but for you.
      Every year you sound the remembrance bugle for these innocent men.
      Then it became even sadder reading for me when that other Ahmadi was murdered near my old home town in Scotland.
      That crime was committed by a Pakistani, as hateful as the mob in Cikeusik. As far as I know, that Pakistani was convicted but not deported.
      God knows why.
      But at least the court in the UK took the case seriously and though the sentence fell short of what i’d have hoped, it was not the complete mockery of justice that followed Cikeusik.
      Please keep writing this annual jab to the conscience of the Indonesian legal system.

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    • Nunung 21:06 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Evil day.
      I do not like to remember it but we should.

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    • Jim Ex Jakarta 21:27 on February 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Well done, Ross!
      Every year, you mark this injustice.
      I am sure many, many Indonesians and us expats too, share your disappointment that the bigots who murdered these men were never punished.
      As for those ‘judges’ what can we say?

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  • ross1948 07:26 on August 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    In Jakarta, Persecuted Ahmadis Seek Justice! 


    Good to see that, despite President Jokowi’s inaction on repealing the vindictive and discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree, which was issued during his predecessor’s term of office…

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    …that mean-spirited diktat’s victims, the peaceful and inoffensive Ahmadiyah minority creed, are not giving up.

    They’re taking their fight for religious liberty to the Constitutional Court!

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    Constitutional Court, Jakarta

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    And they’ve included in their legal submission this rather fine paragraph.

    “If the government assumes a certain denomination can comment, even determine the fate of other denominations in the same religion, does this mean the government can also ensure which domination is received by God Almighty…

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    Gambar terkait

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    …and gets a special door into His heaven?   

    https://news.detik.com/berita/d-3613134/cari-keadilan-ke-mk-komunitas-ahmadiyah-sodorkan-15-kasus:

    That’s tellin’ ’em!

    It’s always been a matter of puzzlement to me how come the so-called Islamic ‘scholars’ here, the state-funded MUI…

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    • ….are so lacking in confidence in their version of religious dogma that they cower from debate  with Ahmadis…

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    ….and instead go whining to the state to shut dissent down.

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    The Ahmadi plaintiffs have submitted a list of specific maltreatment occasions to bolster their case…Gambar terkait

    …and although readers overseas may be totally unfamiliar with the places mentioned, it seems a good idea to append that list, so you can see how these decent people’s religious liberty has been affronted.

     

     1. Sealing Al Furqon Mosque, Kersamaju, conducted by Satpol PP on March 31, 2015.

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    The Satpol PP are the civic militia, controlled by local governments throughout Indonesia

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    2. Sealing Al Hidayah Mosque, Depok conducted by a group of people on March 19, 2011. It was repeated in February 2017 conducted by the Head of Satpol PP Pemkot Depok.

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    3. The burning and sealing of Masjid Al Furqon, Parakansalak, Sukabumi by the masses on April 28, 2008. After that Satpol PP Sukabumi sealed the mosque on July 26, 2016.

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    4. Damage to Al Kautsar Mosque, Kendal, Central Java in May 2016.

    5. Prohibition of the use of the mosque An Nashr, Pekanbaru on October 12, 2010. The ban was in line with the letter of Mayor of Pekanbaru to Ahmadiyah congregation to stop their activities.

    6. Damage to Cipeuyeum Mosque on March 13, 2011.

    7. Termination of mosque construction in Kunto Darussalam pasda April 2017.

    8. Scattering Al Misbah Mosque, New Jatibening, Bekasi on 14 November 2011.

    9. The burning of the Cisalada Mosque on October 1, 2010 by a group of people.

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    Ahmadi Koran, burned in a major sectarian arson attack in Cisalada

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    10. Sealing Baitul Rahim Mosque, Singaparna on 12 April 2012 night.

    11. Rejection of the issuance of e-ID card 1,400 people of Manislor Village, Kuningan in 2012.

    12. Rejection of the registration of marriage certificate at Tanjungpinang Religious Court on April 16, 2015.

    13. The destruction of Masjid Mahmud, Singaparna on April 15, 2010 noon

    14. Damage to mosques and houses of Ahmadiyah members in Ciaruteun, Bogor on March 11, 2011. A total of 7 families of Ahmadiyah refugees.

    15. Case of expulsion and destruction of houses of members of Ahmadiyah Lombok, NTB.

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    Anti-Ahmadi sectarian arson in Lombok

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    If you want more info on some of these cases, you can use our Search box, entering Lombok, Cisalada, or just Ahmadiyah and see the extent of the evil perpetrated against them.

    I wish them the best of luck in their fight against oppression!

    1. Penyegelan Masjid Al Furqon, Kersamaju, yang dilakukan oleh Satpol PP pada 31 Maret 2015.

    2. Penyegelan Masjid Al Hidayah, Depok yang dilakukan oleh sekelompok orang pada 19 Maret 2011. Hal itu berulang pada Februari 2017 yang dilakukan oleh Kepala Satpol PP Pemkot Depok.

    3. Pembakaran dan penyegelaan Masjid Al Furqon, Parakansalak, Sukabumi oleh massa pada 28 April 2008. Setelah itu Satpol PP Sukabumi menyegel masjid itu pada 26 Juli 2016.

    4. Perusakan Masjid Al Kautsar, Kendal, Jawa Tengah pada Mei 2016.

    5. Pelarangan penggunaan masjid An Nashr, Pekanbaru pada 12 Oktober 2010. Larangan itu seiring surat Wali Kota Pekanbaru ke jemaah Ahmadiyah untuk menghentikan kegiatan mereka.

    6. Perusakan Masjid Cipeuyeum pada 13 Maret 2011.

    7. Penghentian pembangunan masjid di Kunto Darussalam pasda April 2017.

    8. Penggembokan Masjid Al Misbah, Jatibening Baru, Bekasi pada 14 November 2011.

    9. Pembakaran Masjid Cisalada pada 1 Oktober 2010 oleh sekelompok orang.

    10. Penyegelan masjid Baitul Rahim, Singaparna pada 12 April 2012 malam.

    11. Penolakan penerbitan e-KTP 1.400 orang Desa Manislor, Kuningan pada 2012.

    12. Penolakan pencatatan akta nikah di Pengadilan Agama Tanjungpinang pada 16 April 2015.

    13. Perusakan Masjid Mahmud, Singaparna pada 15 April 2010 siang

    14. Perusakan Masjid dan rumah anggota Ahmadiyah di Ciaruteun, Bogor pada 11 Maret 2011. Sebanyak 7 KK warga Ahmadiyah mengungsi.

    15. Kasus pengusiran dan perusakan rumah anggota Ahmadiyah Lombok, NTB.

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    • JazPen 20:01 on August 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I knew you hadnt forgotten the Ahmadis but you use to write about them all the time.
      Its good to see you have still got their back.

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  • ross1948 13:08 on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , Tri-Ministerial Decree   

    “Mohon Ma’af?” Blasphemous Brutes Vandalise Depok Mosque! 


    Mohon ma’af, ‘ is a common addition to Idul Fitri greetings here, people asking forgiveness for any wrongs they’ve done in the past year.

    I wonder if certain blasphemous bigots in Depok will walk over to the Ahmadi Mosque they vandalised this weekend….

    The vandals, who used motorcycles, threw eggs and paint at the mosque’s yard and front and back gates. “They also threw eggs at the mosque’s CCTV cameras so their actions would not be recorded,” Fatiatulo Lazira, a lawyer with the team, said. They also placed a banner expressing animosity toward Ahmadiyah near the mosque.

    ….and seek forgiveness.

    I doubt it. Islamist bigots have no conscience recognisable to normal human beings.

    I recall that evil mass-murderer, Imam Samoedra, one of the Bali Bomb Pigs..

      

    Imam Samoedra, with his two satanic co-killers

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    …being asked by a naive journo prior to his well-deserved execution, if he would be asking forgiveness.

    ‘Why would I ask forgiveness from kafir,’ was the monster’s retort.

    So no repentance likely among the backward beasts in Depok either, where the vandalised Ahmadi mosque had already been shut down by the sectarian local government’s goon-squad.

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    Hasil gambar untuk masjid ahmadiyah depok

    The mosque has been sealed off by the Depok administration seven times, with the most recent occurring on June 4.

    Nor is there any news from President Jokowi, who likes to talk about Indonesia’s pluralism, about any plan to repeal the notorious Tri-Ministerial Decree.

    The Ahmadis have long been persecuted in the country, with the government issuing a joint ministerial decree banning their activities in 2008.http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/06/24/ahmadiyah-mosque-in-depok-vandalized-ahead-of-idul-fitri.html

    At least the JP report has a few words on the source of  much of Indonesia’s intolerance, reminding us that it was the MUI’s dogmatic decree…

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    The  2005 Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) fatwa declaring the teachings of Ahmadiyah heretical

    which bigot bureaucrats  have used to shut down religious liberty in dismal Depok – more than once!

    I do suspect, however, that ‘heretical’  – and utterly inoffensive and peaceful  – Ahmadis today are saying ‘mohon ma’af’ for any little mistakes they have made, over the past 12 months, in good conscience, knowing that they have done nothing wrong in wishing to worship God Almighty in their own honourable way.

     

     
    • Kezia 20:49 on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      The MUI must ‘seek forgiveness,’ just like you say.
      Depok kampung criminals who attack the mosque are stupid with no education but MUI are older and not stupid only mean and full with intolerance. So many mean things happen after the MUI fatwa.
      Why will President Jokowi not protect Ahmadiyya people.
      The Ahmadi do no harm.

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    • Tyas 14:34 on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      And I agree with you Kezia, the MUI always make me feel like why do they shame our country.
      We since 1945 like to have freedom for all religion.groups.
      MUI do not.
      Eventhough I am Muslim

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  • ross1948 09:12 on May 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Why Should Indonesia Answer To ‘Rights’ Hypocrites? 


    The UN Human Rights Universal Periodic Review (UPR) workgroup concluded a discussion on Wednesday (03/05) of a human rights report submitted by Indonesia. It advised the country on sustainable efforts to improve and protect human rights.

    http://jakartaglobe.id/news/un-praises-indonesia-for-human-rights-improvements/

    It’s bizarre that Indonesia’s Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi felt obliged to talk about ‘rights’ to a collection of UN sticky-beaks which, when last we checked, included countries in which any kind of rights are a sad sick joke –

    -like Saudi Arabia, misruled by the shariah code, hence a stranger to civilised values, let alone ‘rights!’

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    And Red China, a totalitarian tyranny devoid of democracy since the tragedy of communist take-over in 1949.

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    And Retno’s colleague, Justice Minister Yasonna Laoly, was revelling in the fact that ‘‘there was a strong message that each delegation appreciated Indonesia’s progress, efforts and commitment to complete the challenges in human rights protection.”

    I’m certainly not saying Indonesia has an untainted record on certain issues.

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    Retno told the media that her delegation had elaborated on several thematic human rights clusters – a bizarre turn of phrase, that, but never mind.

    What is more intriguing was the inclusion among those ‘clusters’ of ‘warranties on religious freedom!’

    Until the government in which Retno serves scraps the viciously discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree…

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    http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom

    …and enforces the Supreme Court ruling in favour of the persecuted GKI Yasmin Christians –

    Oppressed Christians In The Street Heat, In Pluralist Indonesia 

     –  she needs to consider her words carefully when talking about ‘religious freedom.’

    For many tormented Christians  – Christ’s Ascension Day – Islamist Savages Pelt Congregation With Sewage, Urine and Rocks  – in Indonesia, as for Ahmadis, religious freedom is a mere dream.

    And what about the nightmare Jakarta’s Governor Ahok is currently undergoing, awaiting a verdict in the ‘blasphemy’ trial.

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    How on earth can any country in this millennium  purport to have any interest in religious freedom when a clearly good man can be hauled into court for ‘offending’ fanatics by quoting a Koranic verse?

    Blasphemy? Rizieq Should NOT Be Prosecuted – Nor Ahok! 

    Real blasphemy is visible among the swarm of Islamist bigots, invoking the Name of God Almighty as they shuffled through Jakarta yesterday  – and repeatedly in recent months –Will Five MILLION Fanatics March This Friday! Jakarta Nightmare!  –  many of them howling like rabid wolves for Ahok to be put to death.

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    The protesters, most of whom were men dressed in white Muslim attire, were heard yelling, “We want a Muslim governor,” “Burn Ahok!” and “Kafir!”   http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/10/14/thousands-hard-liners-march-against-ahok.htm

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    I see Retno and Yasonna also explained Indonesia’s legal policies to the forum, regarding the death penalty…

    Instead of explaining it to this panel of wannabe meddlers, better they talk to President Jokowi and urge him to do something about the ludicrously soft sentences meted out to swine convicted of terrorist offences here in Indonesia.

    No great fan of his predecessor SBY, I have to say that at least he presided over the execution of the Bali Bomb Pigs.

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    A lot of us have waited a long time to break out the beer and bacon sandwiches and celebrate a few more jihadist scumbags getting sent to Hell.

    But meantime, if Indonesia told the UN to take their double-standards and stick ’em where the sun never shines, that too would merit a raised glass.

     
  • ross1948 21:17 on April 21, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , , , multi-faith meeting, , Tri-Ministerial Decree, U S Embassy   

    Mike Pence’s (Somewhat Limited?) ‘Multi-Faith’ Experience! 


    Most of the media mentioned how America’s VP Mike Pence happily joined in a ‘multi-faith’ gathering in Jakarta, after visiting the huge Istiqlal mosque.

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    Mike in the Mosque

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    The actual ‘faiths’ included in the ‘multi-faith’ meet-up don’t seem to be identified, at least in the media I’ve looked at.

    But I am led to wonder if Mr. Pence had a chance to talk to representatives of one particular faith, the peaceful and inoffensive Ahmadiyah.

    They have been subjected to systematic discrimination, not only by dastardly Islamist bigot brutes…

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    …but also by local governments around the country…

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    In Squalid Internal Exile, Lombok Ahmadis Denied Voting Rights 

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    …AND by the Tri-Ministerial Decree… – .  http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom  …a notorious diktat issued by the Government of Indonesia under the previous President, SBY.

    Many of us expected, hoped at least, that when President Jokowi took over, he would annul the intolerant edict.

    He hasn’t.

    Did Mr. Pence’s Ambassador bring him up to speed with the persecution of these good citizens that began some years ago, reached a nadir at Cikeusik, when that mob of savages martyred three Ahmadis – nobody ever charged with murder – and continues today.

    Jakarta This Week – Blameless Minority Creed Hounded Again! 

    If Donald Trump’s V-P was properly informed on this shameful saga, one hopes he raised the issue at the ‘multi-faith’ meeting.

    If Mike Pence was unaware, it’s time to fire a few embassy flunkeys.

     

     

     
    • JazPen 22:48 on April 21, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Good, Ross,
      Its maybe late in the day but you are back to your good old form of defending Indonesia’s good people.
      I think deep down you know its too late but it still needs to be said.

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  • ross1948 21:27 on February 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Another Triumph For Islamist Bigotry In Indonesia! 


    Sad to see another triumph of intolerance in Indonesia, with Islamists gloating over the suppression of religious liberty in Depok.

    As we predicted yesterday – West Java – Depok’s Damnable Dreary Bigotry, Again!  – a mob of bigots descended on the Ahmadiyah mosque,as the peaceful minority was about to carry out their Friday prayers at the mosque, on Friday (24/2) afternoon.

    Bit of a waste of time, because  the equally bigoted City Government of Depok had already sealed the innocent dissenters’ house of worship.

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    “There have been no reports of resistance at Ahmadiyah mosques when we sealed the place again,” he told local media on site. ‘However,’ he added, “if the seal was to be removed, there would be strict sanctions.”-Local cop, quoted in http://timesofahmad.blogspot.com.au/2017/02/indonesia-ahmadiyya-mosque-in-sawangan.html

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    Depok’s record of intolerance is quite spectacular – if you want a laugh, read this one from a few years back.–Islamist Bigot Biter Bit in West Java  

     Among the sectarian mob this weekend was Abdullah Shafi, local Muhammadiyah notable.

    Massa Ormas Protes Masjid Ahmadiyah di Depok

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    • That pretty well finishes off any pretensions by Muhammadiyah to be a voice for ‘moderate’ Muslims. 
    • Shafi evidently felt no shame at all in keeping company with the notorious IslamoNazi FPI…

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    IslamoNazi white-shirts at Depok

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    ….and the notorious FBR.

    There’s a few past posts about the FBR, which you can find via our ‘search’ box, just across to your right, but to facilitate your inspection of their bona fides…

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    Right On, Ratna! Activist’s All-Out Attack on IslamoNazis 

    …try that one!

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    Seems there were leaflets circulating among the rabble that essentially rejected the existence of Ahmadiyah and described it as a cult.

    Just to emphasise how infantile and vindictive they could be, the mob also asked Depok City Government to cut off electricity to the Ahmadiyya and urgently remove the contents from the Secretariat of the Ahmadiyah.

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    • Since nobody in the Presidential Palace seems to have recalled President Jokowi’s previous call for minorities, in Depok or anywhere in Indonesia to be left unharassed – . Jokowi Urges Cops To Protect Minorities – in Depok – I’ll quote at length what the Ahmadis have said in response.
    • “Masjid Al-Hidayah has been established since 1999, is open to the public and already has a building permit (IMB) as a place of worship and our home since 2007.” 
    • Mubarak claimed that Ahmadiyah has been actively involved in social activities…staying in touch with leaders and scholars in Sawangan and has never violated any law.
    • “Forced Closure of mosques by the municipal government that bases itself on SKB 3 minister and derivatives to Perwali Depok on Ahmadiyah is not based on the correct rules..”
    • For new readers, that SKB# is the infamous and grotesquely discriminatory Tri-Ministerial Decree – .  http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom 
    • – an intolerant sectarian diktat issued under former President SBY…
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    • SBY…yes, he’s the man who wants a worldwide ‘blasphemy law!’
    • SBY to ask the world to ban blasphemy | The Jakarta Post
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    • “We deplore the attitude of Depok City Government, as discriminatory and does not carry out its duty to protect its citizens to practice their religion…the right to association and assembly are guaranteed by the state through the constitution…”
    • Ahamdiyah also asked for assertiveness from the President, through the Minister of Internal Affairs, to ensure the Depok City Government does not preclude the right to worship and assemble…
    • Ahmadis also ask police officers to ensure security and the activities of worship that group.
     
    • JazPen 09:51 on February 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Its bad when there are so many really ‘moderate’ (sane) Muslims here in Indonesia but so few organisations that represent them.
      Muhammadiyah dont qualify and after that Gandaria City squall a few years ago, NU doesn’t have much credibility either.
      I think we have seen the best days of Indonesia unless Jokowi starts acting instead of just talking about pluralism..

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