Not Fake News! Germans Just Voted In Their Own EU Referendum!
No, I’ll bet you had no idea, nor, perhaps ( though we had mentioned it in the past)
…. that there was a death penalty referendum in Germany a few weeks ago too.
Sad to say, only one German state afforded its people such basic democratic rights, and sadder still, only a minority of the citizens of Hessen voted for capital punishment.
But then German federal law overrides state law, so the pre-existing statute was a dead letter. And maybe that’s why under 20% voted to keep it.
Not much point, really, if no evil-doer was ever going to get his just deserts, because Mama Stasi, as federal fuhrerin…
….
…..
… has shown no serious interest in curbing crime, or expelling savage criminals who shouldn’t be in Germany at all.
But you probably want to know about how those Germans voted on the EU issue.
And, again sadly, I can’t tell you.
The only information to be found in English-language media is a minimal mention in DW, viz. that voters were asked to decide on…
…
‘their commitment to the EU.’
Now what exactly does that mean?
If it was an honest referendum, the Hessen voters would have been given a free and fair choice, Brussels Empire, yes or no!
But that would have been as pointless as the ‘choice’ on capital punishment, since membership of the EUSSR is a matter for Berlin, not individual states.
So what was printed on the Hessen ballot paper?
‘Do you appreciate all the joys and benefits of subordination to a supranational authority?’
Or some other, less subtle, loaded question?
And did how the people voted have any real effect on anything?
I have no time, nor energy, to comb through German media so maybe one of our German readers can advise us.
Willie Frobes, 
Annelie Neumann, 
Jerry Jerman, and 1 other are discussing. 
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Petra Malley 22:47 on November 19, 2018 Permalink |
Astonishing, that the media have not given this any prominence.
The German central government has no plans to hold a referendum on the migrant problem, I assume?
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Jerry Jerman 23:04 on November 19, 2018 Permalink |
Guten Tag, Ross.
It was not so hard to help you, and here is the words that Hessen voted for.
‘Hesse should be described in the constitution not only as part of the Federal Republic, but also as part of the European Union. This also means that Hesse confesses to “a democratic and constitutional principles committed unified Europe.’
So if Germany in the future tries to escape from the European Union, the state of Hessen may be forced to stay under EU control?
You may make what you wish of this.
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Annelie Neumann 23:28 on November 19, 2018 Permalink |
I am trying to help you with this so I find it in the Frankfurter Rundschau, that referendum says Hessen is part of the European Union and is binding Hessen to European rule.
It was done by all the parties in the Hessen parliament but this was before the AfD entered the parliament in October.
The driver of the plan was a Green leader Frank Kaufmann and all the parties without the AfD calls it the “signal effect for the present localization of Hessen in a united Europe and the openness for future further integration “.
So CDU, SPD, Greens got their people to vote that way but I do not see what majority, but I think most because if not it will be big news. I think Merkel will never have national referendums because she is afraid of us Germans.
My apology because this is more English than I can.
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Willie Frobes 02:23 on November 20, 2018 Permalink |
I thought the German Federal Republic had a.law against letting the people have their say?
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